http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60132

Remember this story? This person didn't pay for the php order form I created, and now he's looking for the next victim. This is also Samuel Barr by the way.

Can you explain a little better?

What Story? And if the story was a topic on WHT you may want to considering searching it and posting it!? ;)

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58150

TotallyHosted.net is the same as eshoredirect.com. The company is run by Samuel Barr and Ben Hawker. Whether these persons are the same could be possible. Last May, he asked me to create a php order form for totallyhosted.net, a form similar to gearhost.com. He paid 15% but refused to pay the remaining. His reason is his credit card company is hassling him and paypal is "f*cking" him up. A web designer here, posted a similar complaint as he designed their web site and didn't get paid. Now's this person is looking for a programmer and it's just quite ridiculous to find him here looking for another person to scam.

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From what i`ve heard, Samual Bar was the one responsible for this situation, TotallyHosted.net which is now owned by Ben Hawker already explained what happened, and he shouldnt be the one to point finger at.

< I think so, lol >

It is Ben Hawker whom I provided the script for and he is the one who is supposed to pay me. He blames Samuel Barr but that is his problem. The bottom line is he has not given me my payment and he is looking for another programmer. That is not fair.

I'm confused. If you didn't give him the script yet, then how have you been ripped off? I know you spent your time on it, but now that it is done, can't you sell it to some one else to get your money?

LET ME REPEAT

Hi,
My name is Ben Hawker I am the owner of Totally Hosted. Lets clear a few things up guys....

When I bough the Eshore Hosting from Mr Barr I bought it under certain conditions and one being that Samuel pay for a new web design and sognup script, he agreed.

I am totallyshocked at whats going on here as i havn't been kept in the loop.

THIS PROGRAMMER WILL GET PAID, WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED OUR SERVICE WHEN WE'RE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN PROFIT!!

Thanks!

"Actions Speak Louder than Words!"

:emlaugh:

Originally posted by THBen
LET ME REPEAT
THIS PROGRAMMER WILL GET PAID, WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED OUR SERVICE WHEN WE'RE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN PROFIT!!

Thanks!

whatever, but typing with caps on is equal to yelling, :eek:

Originally posted by THBen


THIS PROGRAMMER WILL GET PAID, WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED OUR SERVICE WHEN WE'RE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN PROFIT!!



Woah! Since when did programmers start getting paid on the condition of when the buyer decides to put the site up and then make a profit.

Ohh that's a great idea, I'll buy an airplane and start an air line, but I'll start to pay it when we're fully operational and in profit.

Originally posted by Jedito
Ohh that's a great idea, I'll buy an airplane and start an air line, but I'll start to pay it when we're fully operational and in profit.

Unfortunately, given the state of the airline industry, and the disproportionate number of bankruptcies, I think that is how it is run :D.

Also, not to jump on the flaming bandwagon here, but:



__________________
Ben Hawker
Your not hosted until your Totally Hosted


At least make an attempt at proper grammar in your signature. Your is possessive, you're is the contraction. Unless you are implying that "not" belongs to "your", you should say:

You're not hosted until you're Totally Hosted

Although, contractions are not always appropriate in business communication, so it would probably read better extended to:

You are not hosted, until you are Totally Hosted

Originally posted by uuallan


Unfortunately, given the state of the airline industry, and the disproportionate number of bankruptcies, I think that is how it is run :D.


That's better :), I'll never pay it then :D

lol uuallen, hows the job search going? :confused:

Originally posted by uuallan


Unfortunately, given the state of the airline industry, and the disproportionate number of bankruptcies, I think that is how it is run :D.

Also, not to jump on the flaming bandwagon here, but:




At least make an attempt at proper grammar in your signature. Your is possessive, you're is the contraction. Unless you are implying that "not" belongs to "your", you should say:

You're not hosted until you're Totally Hosted

Although, contractions are not always appropriate in business communication, so it would probably read better extended to:

You are not hosted, until you are Totally Hosted

Originally posted by edude
lol uuallan, hows the job search going? :confused:



Not too bad, I had a real good interview with Mitre (http://www.mitre.org) today and I am interviewing with Riptech (http://www.riptech.com/) on Monday (assuming the baby doesn't pop out over the weekend :)).

I'm kind of lucky that I have developed a lot of contacts over the last 6 years, many of my friends cannot even get in the door :(.

uuallen, you're close.
His sig should say "You're not paid until we're Totally Profitable"

hmmmm, I wonder if I can get my Truck detailed, and then tell the shop I will pay them when I win a show.

Originally posted by THBen
LET ME REPEAT

Hi,
My name is Ben Hawker I am the owner of Totally Hosted. Lets clear a few things up guys....

When I bough the Eshore Hosting from Mr Barr I bought it under certain conditions and one being that Samuel pay for a new web design and sognup script, he agreed.

I am totallyshocked at whats going on here as i havn't been kept in the loop.

THIS PROGRAMMER WILL GET PAID, WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED OUR SERVICE WHEN WE'RE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN PROFIT!!

Thanks! SO you're not going to pay him, until your company is profitable? I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. He wrote a script for you and you have it and have the ability to use it, so he should be paid.

Let's see.....how about this.....do you think it will work....I will order a few hundred additional servers, with the understanding that I don't have to pay for any of them until I'm clearing at least $1 million per month......

lol uuallen, good luck with the bee's :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Incognito
Let's see.....how about this.....do you think it will work....I will order a few hundred additional servers, with the understanding that I don't have to pay for any of them until I'm clearing at least $1 million per month...... That would be nice.

Yeh ...

i'll take over microsoft and pay nothing until i'm profitable ..... i think a BIG bonus for me at the end of the year ...

ie : a few billion :blush: :eek: :D

Where can i find such a deal incognito? :D

I tried to pull this at the gas station tonight. It didn't fly.

"I filled up with gas, but I'm going to wait to pay you until I get my paycheck next Friday when I have money again."

Gas attendant: "Yeah, and I'm calling the cops."

:blush:

Bummer.

:D Bailey

WTF is sognup?

:eek:

:confused: i dunno .... where you seen that word :confused:

Originally posted by utadmin
:confused: i dunno .... where you seen that word :confused:DOCUMENTED TEXT SPEEK LOUDER THAN POSTS.Originally posted by THBen
LET ME REPEAT

Hi,
My name is Ben Hawker I am the owner of Totally Hosted. Lets clear a few things up guys....

When I bough the Eshore Hosting from Mr Barr I bought it under certain conditions and one being that Samuel pay for a new web design and sognup script, he agreed.

I am totallyshocked at whats going on here as i havn't been kept in the loop.

THIS PROGRAMMER WILL GET PAID, WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED OUR SERVICE WHEN WE'RE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN PROFIT!!

Thanks!

Originally posted by utadmin
:confused: i dunno .... where you seen that word :confused: It's a new browser feature, CTRL + F, it finds a word on a page.

wow - iamdave, i never knew that, which internet explorer supports it? i don't think mine does :bawling:

Originally posted by edude
wow - iamdave, i never knew that, which internet explorer supports it? i don't think mine does :bawling: :( I don't know...

all from 4.0 i guess :) i dont remmember 3.0 anymore :)

Originally posted by jarrod


Woah! Since when did programmers start getting paid on the condition of when the buyer decides to put the site up and then make a profit.

Mabey we should start to charge a % from there profit then instead of a flat fee for programming work. Say for 3 years. Good idea, what do you think?:cool:

edited

phugo, i think you should post this in the request advertising forums :confused:

ok