So I saw law and order last night which dealt with information-collection on the web. I laughed at the drastic claims of lack of privacy on the internet.

I JUST GOT A CALL FROM www.hostglobe.com who said they found my phone number on "that website you posted on, looking for hosting."

I don't give out my phone number to forums.

So, basically hostglobe looked up my member profile here, did a whois on my domain name and then called me.

Unless you are offering me free money please don't make me unsolicited offers by phone or email for that matter!

Haven't seen Stephen around here in three or four months.
Saying they saw your number on a forum where you posted would just be a way for them to attempt to throw you off on how they were contacting you. Doesn't mean they got information from 'this' forum; or from 'any' forum, for that matter.

I am not a great fan of guns, but you sound a little paranoid about privacy to be advocating an idea like this on your site.

Global Positioning Systems (GPS's) would be built into all guns (not military or police weapons). GPS's have already been installed in cellular phones and they are able to pinpoint their global location to one or two feet. This GPS would be in constant operation, letting the user know his/her location. A national system of location monitors would transmit a signal to the GPS telling it when it is in an area where discharge of firearms is illegal. If the gun is fired in a "no-discharge" zone, the GPS would send a signal to a government/police reporting that the gun was fired and its location.

I'm not paranoid about privacy but having someone detective out my number was ironic in light of my naysaying of that law and order episode. Also, it was startling to get a phone call as I was posting a reply! It was sort of like voice-chat for BBS.

Ah, o.k. .. sorry. I took the caps as a strong statement. I found your ideas interesting.

so i should scratch you off my list of people to call tommorrow?

just kidding :)

Originally posted by aloosenation
I'm not paranoid about privacy but having someone detective out my number was ironic in light of my naysaying of that law and order episode. Also, it was startling to get a phone call as I was posting a reply! It was sort of like voice-chat for BBS. "Detective out" your phone number? It takes about 1 minute to get your phone number. How is that considered "detectiving out" your phone number?

It doesn't take a lot of time, but considering I don't explicitly list my phone number anywhere (except with my registrar), it does require somehow locating my domain name (if he got it from here, going to my profile) and then doing a whois to try to find the number. Seems like a fair amount of research to me (especially to sell me 20 megs for $15 :) ).

*deletes aloosenation from his quick dial...

j\k :)

Originally posted by aloosenation
So I saw law and order last night which dealt with information-collection on the web. I laughed at the drastic claims of lack of privacy on the internet.

I JUST GOT A CALL FROM www.hostglobe.com who said they found my phone number on "that website you posted on, looking for hosting."

I don't give out my phone number to forums.

So, basically hostglobe looked up my member profile here, did a whois on my domain name and then called me.

Unless you are offering me free money please don't make me unsolicited offers by phone or email for that matter!

Well , there ya go...web hosting has now become a door to door sales business. If you didnt asked to be called you should not have to deal with that kind of solicitation.

That is what I like about Missouri - we got a "no-call" list here that if you report them to the state, and you are on that list, it is big money fines for it :)

hmm we have that list also in New York (where everyone probably knows I'm from now) and I'm on it. Does it apply to out-of-state?

They don't have anything like that here in Canada; the best you can do is get an unlisted number. They give you a thing where you can remove yourself from junk snail mail but nothing for telemarketing (besides that commercial Telezapper dealy).

But fear not, fellow anti-phone-solicitors, for I've developed an alternative to this! If you have call waiting on your telephone, simply say "hang on a minute, I have to calm my kids down" when the telemarketer calls...put the phone on hold...put it back on the base...and just leave it. Don't pick it up unless it rings again (and not that hold ring either). Just let it sit there. Most telemarketers are so dense that they will sit there for 45 minutes to one hour as a minimum, patiently waiting on hold, being paid by the hour by some company that you'll slowly drive into bankruptcy to do so. I've even picked up a phone six hours later to make a call and the telemarketer was still there.

The more people that do this, the less intrusive telemarketing will become simply because the companies that do it will be unable to conduct their business. I do realize that there are legitimate businesses where phone sales is the only way to succeed, and I don't recommend using it for those business: however, hosting, credit card insurance, window and door companies, and ISPs who do this can all suffer.

Originally posted by TheGAME1264
They give you a thing where you can remove yourself from junk snail mail but nothing for telemarketing (besides that commercial Telezapper dealy).


We've got that thing here; a shiny plate you put on your letter box that says "NO JUNK MAIL". Don't know why you would get it. One of my daily highlights is to get home, and read all of them while cooking dinner. Admittedly, only electronics related things get my fancy, but still fun to see what's up down at K-Mart.

Well really there is somethign wrong witht his forum. I get one email a day from some host advertising their special and they all say we noticed you have an intrest in being hosted...yes i have an intrest in it and umm its already done with respectible host not spammers. I know there really isn anything anyone can do to stop this but if you are one of these spammers/telemarketers STOP!

I get spam from other hosts daily also. What has always amazed me is #1 a host is spamming, and #2, if you look at their site,it is usually in their TOS that they forbid spam. Nothing like a host that doesn't follow their own TOS.

Yeah, I make it a point to not buy anything I did not enquire about. Even if they say I enquired about it. (old and lame ploy)

If I am in a good mood, I say "I'm sorry but it is not my policy to consider anything offered to me on the phone"
If not, look out! I once said "Who do you think you are calling me at 9 Oclock at night?" and then hung up.

I once got a call from the phone Co asking me to purchase "Call manager" This may sound good, but it also makes it almost impossible to accept calls from pay phones so if you have a teenager . . . you get the idea. I told them "I don't get many calls for solicition, in fact only one Company has been bothering me the most lately. Do you know who that is?" He sheepishly said, "yeah" Then I said "I already have something like a call manager it is at the tip of my finger. Do you want to know how it works?" Then I hung up.

Here is a tip: In my state, if not all states, it is against the law to solicite cell phones. Beause my phone directs calls to my cell if the line is in use, (teenager) I get many calls on my cell. I simply tell them this is a cell phone number and to never call again. Which techically is true; they are talking on my cell, (and sucking up my minutes) even if they dialed my land line.

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• GPS for guns -- Global Positioning Systems (GPS's) would be built into all guns (not military or police weapons). GPS's have already been installed in cellular phones and they are able to pinpoint their global location to one or two feet. This GPS would be in constant operation, letting the user know his/her location. A national system of location monitors would transmit a signal to the GPS telling it when it is in an area where discharge of firearms is illegal. If the gun is fired in a "no-discharge" zone, the GPS would send a signal to a government/police reporting that the gun was fired and its location.

In this way, guns used in crimes could be tracked. Tampering with or disabling the GPS's would make the gun cease working.
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I can see it now. You shoot a snake in your back yard and five minutes later the police are at your door to arrest you for shooting a gun in city limits..

LOL

Wait I didn't say that right. I am from the lowcountry. Must give a proper impression for life down here.

Big alligator comes charging your child from the pond behind your house. You grab your 30/30 and shoot it between the eyes. 15 minutes later the cops are at your door to arrest you for fireing your gun in city limits.

Incidentally that happened to my family only instead of shooting it we wacked it over the head with a 2x4... Ahh memories.

Regards,
Michael

If you think your phone number and Social Security number is locked in some Golden place, think again.
In my real world business, when people owe us money, skip tracing is very easy!
Also while some locals call unlisted to mean not put in the book, you can call and get it.
Example: For a small fee I flag credit reports on people.
If a new address shows up, I get an e mail. Same can be done for phone numbers and other information.
THe fee for this: $6.00. That is all your information is worth!

michaeln -- I suspect it's legal to shoot an aligator that is attacking you :)

"Well , there ya go...web hosting has now become a door to door sales business. If you didnt asked to be called you should not have to deal with that kind of solicitation."

One day I was looking through the classifieds and saw a telemarketing position for an "Internet Services Company". So I figured I would call up just to see what it was about, and they were looking for people to sell webhosting accounts, cold calling.

You can only really get big money if you follow these steps:

1. If they call ask to be put on the "Do Not Call List"
2. Record the data and time of the call and who you were speaking with.
3. If they call again. Then you have some type of thing that you can make money with. The no call list in NY isn't very strict considering a lot of companies out of state don't know about it.