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ANMMark
07-11-2002, 04:41 PM
!!PROMOTION CLOSED!!

PixelAxis
07-11-2002, 04:51 PM
Why is Deahost in your portfolio? I did that design.

ANMMark
07-11-2002, 05:00 PM
I realize that. However, we are doing a makeover of the site. We grab screenshots of the current state of the site, and provide the information next to the site to let visitors know if the design is up yet or not. Please read the description next to DeaHost. When the site is updated...so to will the screencapture.

However, if you would like, we can give credit to you in the description as we have for others in our portfolio. We obviously would never take credit for other's work, and we try to be as clear as possible in our descriptions. I personally have no problem giving you credit.

Please email concerning this, in order to keep the thread clean and used for it's intended purpose. :)

psi
07-11-2002, 05:35 PM
"We did the original layout for deahost. When they wanted a newer, fresher look, they came back to us for our branding services to change their appearance. We needed to create a logo for use on the website redesign (not up yet)."

It doesn't read like you didn't do it.

ANMMark
07-11-2002, 05:39 PM
I'm guessing that the "(not up yet)" is either invisible, written backwards, or something, because I'm pretty sure it's on the site, as it was in your quote.

So, this leads me to wonder if people actually read everything, or at least read what they are typing when they're trying to make a point. :shrugs:

psi
07-11-2002, 05:51 PM
"We did the original layout for deahost"

It reads like the design in the picture is the original design and that you will post an updated version when you have done the redesign.

I can't think of many designer who would add put another designers work in there portfolio.

So Mr.avidnewmedia.com don't tell me what I'm thinking.

Thank you.

J. Pederson
07-11-2002, 06:06 PM
we did the design before RK's and we should have a taken a screenshot of that instead of the current state... we apologize, it will be fixed and please allow us to get work done, instead of hindering us with side comments. Thank you for notifying us of that small problem, it will be fixed and I hope we can move onto the promotion in a new thread without dragging unnecessary comments... We did not mean to take credit for something that wasn't ours... Good day.

James
Co-President, AvidNewMedia

ANMMark
07-11-2002, 06:11 PM
Okay sport, first, I never told you what you were thinking. I also apologize if you're not very good at comprehending what you read.

Also, our portfolio is not only a display of our work, but a list of clients as well.

It's funny that Raja and myself have settled the situation, yet you're coming up like some Jedi rebel, and b**chin about something that you know nothing about.

It's fairly sad to think that I'm usually a calm and polite person, of course, until someone jumps into something that's none of their business, and continues to complain so much that they bore me.

So, Mr. Psi, I know you may want to feel important, but I encourage you to find another outlet.

Thank You.

J. Pederson
07-11-2002, 07:55 PM
yeah.............calm..............polite.............nice mark..........lol.............

James :D

ANMMark
07-11-2002, 07:58 PM
lol....I took a chill pill. I'm okay now. :)

psi
07-11-2002, 09:54 PM
James, this guy is a live wire. Keep him under control, don't let him drag you down as your work is very good, but `idoogleceo` did make it seem like you had been passing off the work of others and making excuses as to why you had used the screenshot.

ANMMark
07-11-2002, 10:16 PM
1. No one keeps me under control.
2. Your business...mind it.
3. You just keep going, and the funny thing is...none of this concerns you.

I can't believe that you insist that I made it sound that way. That appears to be a lack of literacy IMO.

idoogleceo didn't make it sound like anything. I was not the one that brought DeaHost to ANM.

Like I said, I realize that this makes you feel very important to get involved in something that has nothing to do with you, but I STRONGLY suggest that you mind your own.

As a matter of fact, if you spent more time minding your own business, you would have much more to do than concerning yourself with our business.

psi
07-12-2002, 05:25 AM
If I had accepted your offer on the basis of someone else's work it would have been my business. Being rude to potential clients when they point out a problem is no way to act. Using other peoples work in your portfolio isn't really accepted either.. is it now.

I see that its been removed from you portfolio at avidnewmedia.com, was I the potential customer you insisted on being rude really right?

BTW, someone being rude to me when I point out a mistake is my business. OK

ANMMark
07-12-2002, 08:52 AM
Are you saying that you were a potential customer? Whew....that was close. Good thing I was "allegedly" rude, right up front, or I would have had to put up with your whining even longer.

As far as me being rude...please take a look at my first response. I was not rude at all. Then, you got involved.

And once again, a portfolio is designed for listing your clients, not just your designs. Of course, if you were in the business long enough...you would know that.

BTW...since you weren't the one that pointed out any mistake, and it was actually R.K. , this is still none of your business. You just decided to stick your 2 cents where it didn't belong.

Also, R.K. and I came to the agreement that James and I would give him credit until the redesign was complete. This would have provided him at least some advertisement. However, your consistant b**chin has screwed him out of it. So, next time you run across him here....don't forget to say, "You're Welcome."

psi
07-12-2002, 09:16 AM
Are you saying that you were a potential customer?

That's what I said isn't it.

Whew....that was close. Good thing I was "allegedly" rude, right up front, or I would have had to put up with your whining even longer.

Sorry, you're not rude in the slightest are you.

As far as me being rude...please take a look at my first response. I was not rude at all. Then, you got involved.

I know your response to Raja was not rude. `Please read the description next to DeaHost` - I did, then I made the point that `It doesn't read like you didn't do it.`

And once again, a portfolio is designed for listing your clients, not just your designs. Of course, if you were in the business long enough...you would know that.

I was the guy in charge of web design for a very large UK IT company. I have worked with some of the best local design agencies. I know what a portfolio should contain. Thank you.

BTW...since you weren't the one that pointed out any mistake, and it was actually R.K. , this is still none of your business. You just decided to stick your 2 cents where it didn't belong.

Yawn. Save me some time, go back to playing web designer. Hey.

ANMMark
07-12-2002, 09:33 AM
"playing web designer" ????? So, little man, how much do YOU make per year hmmmm?

So, Mr. Guy In charge of design at a VERY LARGE UK IT company, so I would have been a potential customer of ANM. lol That's just funny by itself.

You're not even interesting enough to make me sick.

I would suggest making your next post really good, because I know my words are so compelling that you can't stop replying.

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by psi
Are you saying that you were a potential customer?

That's what I said isn't it.

Whew....that was close. Good thing I was "allegedly" rude, right up front, or I would have had to put up with your whining even longer.

Sorry, you're not rude in the slightest are you.

As far as me being rude...please take a look at my first response. I was not rude at all. Then, you got involved.

I know your response to Raja was not rude. `Please read the description next to DeaHost` - I did, then I made the point that `It doesn't read like you didn't do it.`

And once again, a portfolio is designed for listing your clients, not just your designs. Of course, if you were in the business long enough...you would know that.

I was the guy in charge of web design for a very large UK IT company. I have worked with some of the best local design agencies. I know what a portfolio should contain. Thank you.

BTW...since you weren't the one that pointed out any mistake, and it was actually R.K. , this is still none of your business. You just decided to stick your 2 cents where it didn't belong.

Yawn. Save me some time, go back to playing web designer. Hey.

Would you just keep your mouth shut? All matters were settled after the first post. I don't see any reason for all this crap. I don't see how any of this is your business. If anyone should've been arguing, that would've been me, but we have solved it professionally. Reading this thread has shown me how professional you really are for sticking your nose into someone else's business.

Sorry I ruined your promo, idoogle. It was wrong of me to post something on this thread; I should've PMed you first. Hope you can forgive me for that, and don't put up with Mr. psi here.

psi
07-12-2002, 09:48 AM
"playing web designer" ????? So, little man, how much do YOU make per year hmmmm?

More than you get in pocket money.

So, Mr. Guy In charge of design at a VERY LARGE UK IT company, so I would have been a potential customer of ANM. lol That's just funny by itself.

I _was_ the guy
The software company is largest in it's sector (don't ask me what)
Why wouldn't I be a potential customer?

You're not even interesting enough to make me sick.

Ok, that makes sense.

I would suggest making your next post really good, because I know my words are so compelling that you can't stop replying.

Is that OK with you?

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 09:54 AM
I suggest a moderator close this thread now, because psi is just getting out of hand.

psi
07-12-2002, 10:03 AM
I am being provoked with insults, don't you know!

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by psi
I am being provoked, don't you know!

The other way around actually.

psi
07-12-2002, 10:07 AM
"So, little man, how much do YOU make per year hmmmm?"

Raja, how can you say it's the other way around with a quote like that?

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by psi
Yawn. Save me some time, go back to playing web designer. Hey.

:rolleyes:

psi
07-12-2002, 10:18 AM
I think that you will find that the first post of negative intent doesn't come from. (correct me if I'm wrong)

Anyway, they have lost a potential customer, they may say that it doesn't matter.. Anyone in business should know that it does.

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 10:25 AM
Actually, if you read carefully, you started with "Mr. Avidnewmedia, don't tell me what I'm thinking" and that's where it all came from.

psi
07-12-2002, 10:32 AM
"I'm guessing that the "(not up yet)" is either invisible, written backwards, or something, because I'm pretty sure it's on the site, as it was in your quote.

So, this leads me to wonder if people actually read everything, or at least read what they are typing when they're trying to make a point. "

Well, that sure as hell seems like he is trying to undermine me and my point. I was saying that it was my view so don't undermine it and tell me how I should think.

A matter of opinion I guess.

ANMMark
07-12-2002, 01:19 PM
lol...this is pretty funny if you ask me. First psi, I cannot comment on your income, but I can comment on mine. That name that you see to the left (idoogleCEO) is not just a nickname, it is a position. Remember this youngin', you were in charge of the dept of a company (the design dept...so you claim, which makes being a client of ours laughable)...I'm in charge of the whole damn thing....not just a dept. So, comparing your income to my pocket cash is a joke. When you can buy a new car with pocket cash...then come talk to me shorty.

BTW, holding a position like that means that you're good at it. If you were that good at it....you would do it yourself...

Doesn't it tell you something, when the person you are supposedly defending...is telling you that you're wrong?

Also, in order for me to undermine you, that would mean that you have some authority in the protinium.net or ANM situation, which you don't.

And most of all, you shouldn't have had a view on it in the first place...it's none of your business.

R.K. Don't mention it bro. It's cool, and this was not your fault. It would have been left at that one post, but someone else had to read "Please email concerning this, in order to keep the thread clean and used for it's intended purpose." then purposely tried to be an ass, by putting himself where he didn't belong.

I agree. Can a mod close this thread, to shut this little 15 year wannabe up....geeez.

BTW James, lol this is a classic case of "good cop, bad cop" only in our case it's "good co-pres/bad co-pres" lol

James=all around good guy.
Mark=all around good guy that will kick you in the balls and take your lunch when provoked.

Anyone that knows James and I, knows both of those to be exactly true.

Let's have a classic "Jerry Springer Final Thought" :
If you wanna run with the big dogs, quit pissin' like a puppy.

psi
07-12-2002, 01:40 PM
First psi, I cannot comment on your income, but I can comment on mine.

Good. You do that.

That name that you see to the left (idoogleCEO) is not just a nickname, it is a position.

CEO... Woo

Remember this youngin', you were in charge of the dept of a company (the design dept...so you claim, which makes being a client of ours laughable)...

Well, read my post. I worked with subcontractors and I don't have the time any more. Why.. Why..

I'm in charge of the whole damn thing....not just a dept. So, comparing your income to my pocket cash is a joke. When you can buy a new car with pocket cash...then come talk to me shorty.

I am the owner of a two year old business. ... That's why.

BTW, holding a position like that means that you're good at it. If you were that good at it....you would do it yourself...

1. I wasn't the best
2. I don't have the time any more

Doesn't it tell you something, when the person you are supposedly defending...is telling you that you're wrong?

I wasn't deffending anyone. I was making a point.

And most of all, you shouldn't have had a view on it in the first place...it's none of your business.

I can think and say what I like. You seem to have a problem with freespeech.. After all that's what started this... Isn't it now.

PixelAxis
07-12-2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by psi
[b]I can think and say what I like. You seem to have a problem with freespeech.. After all that's what started this... Isn't it now.

If you want to express yourself that badly, do it in the lounge and not here.

psi
07-12-2002, 01:58 PM
Yes, where it is so relevant to this thread.

J. Pederson
07-12-2002, 02:01 PM
After this whole thing, the problem has been resolved in PM, the part was removed, and now all anyone is doing is sounding like idiots...

wow, psi, I am the damn owner of a two year old business (infant)... That's not a big deal.

Mark has run idoogle for YEARS. And not just two... The business has several departments and 40 employees... I'm not saying that's collosel, but how many employees do you have?

I think that maybe RK is one of the only sain people who have commented in this thread... lol, congrats RK, you're a very talented designer, and I look forward to maybe working with you on a larger scale project in the future with avidnewmedia... you are definitely close to the top of our list for future affiliates (at least mine, prolly up there on marks as well)... Good luck! :D

James Pederson
"Pipe down pinches (spanish ------ don't ask)"

psi
07-12-2002, 02:12 PM
Right. Well, people keep taking my posts out of context, so that me done.

ANMMark
07-12-2002, 02:39 PM
Well, if I may be serious for a moment.

Free speech does not lend itself to private domain. If it did, there would be no such thing as censorship. So, free speech does not matter here. (A business person would also know that. That is if you advertise your business.)

I might also add that involving yourself in a company's business with another company, not only isn't smart, but can have possible legal ramifications (depending on the situation that you become involved in) Now, although this is certainly not one of those situations, I thought I would inform you, since you cannot seem to help yourself. You may want to be careful of the situations you involve yourself in, in the future.

Also...you claim to be the owner of a two year business. That's great! I'm proud of you. I thought about baking you a celebration cake. However, I decided to wait until next year (when you're out of work) Then the cake will be more appreciated. My point is, you...being the owner of a 2 year company, has been able to reply to every post within a minute after someone posted it. Shouldn't you be running your 2 year old business?

Anyways, this is my last post. So, psi...have fun talking to yourself. I'm sure the conversation will go for a few more days at least, or until they close the thread. (I'm kind of wondering what they are waiting for.)

J. Pederson
07-12-2002, 02:53 PM
Good points mark. Thank you for your kindness RK. PSI.- Grow up...

[my last post in this thread as well]

James :D

Chicken
07-12-2002, 07:50 PM
I'm not sure it is only PSI that needs to grow up. Apparently giving one self a title means that you can throw it around and be a donkey. Yes this thread is being locked and I personally wouldn't do business with any of you.