Or is it upgrading? TO the point of naziism. The main two moderators of this board are becoming more and more fenatical about things. Whether you know you are or not, you are driving us into talking about things without color. That is NOT what a good board is about.

You are getting very bad with this, and yes, I can see how people can think you are favoring "special" people, that is a natural reaction to what, and how you are doing things.

What needs to be done is this, redo the boards completely, redevelop it, rewrite the rules completely.

I am seriously not likeing WHT now, every day I see something that makes it worse, and it isn't necessarily the flamming and the hot opinions of someone that had a bad experiance with a host, and can't control their typing. Ever hear of spam-nazis? Well you two are getting just as fanatical about this board.

(without color meaning no freedom of thought, or speach.)

[Edited by mysitehost on 02-17-2001 at 07:52 PM]

I think Naziism is a totally inappropriate term. It is another misused one, much more so than "spam", which many people misuse to include anything they don't like.

Is anyone here torturing people because of their ethnic group or political dissension, separating families, invading countries, and performing a multitude of other horrendous acts? No, then how do you justify calling them Nazis?

In his explanation of his theory of relativity, Albert Einstein (someone the Nazis did not approve of), made several good points. Oneos that when you compare one thing to another, you assume the limitations and characteristics of what you are comparing to. I think you have made a very poor choice in comparing moderation on a privately owned board to Naziz.

I find it offensive in trivializing Nazis and the horrors they promulgated on the world.

guest,

What you are talking about is more than a mrere hack, it would be a rewrite. You are talking about the fundamental difference in the two types of board formats, a threaded board and a linear, or non-threaded board, like this one.

It's actually a misnomer to refer to a discussion in a program of this type as a thread, because it isn't. It's a linear discussion, not a thread.

For casual conversation, I feel threaded boards work best as they allow different facets of a conversation to branch out without interfering with the others. The comments of many users support that contention.

When a linear board is used fo casual conversation, there are frequently complaints about strign from the singular topic, even if another facet of it is being displayed. I see this happen on some boards I know that use UBB.

Linear boards may be well suited for forums where there is a desire for a single topic and remaining on it, in each discussion. This is true of many computer related ones. However, even there the limitations of the linear format will be a problem on occasion.

I've seen linear boards wher the messages are posted in reverse order (most recent at the top) and didn't care for them. It is unnatural for most of us to read from bottom to top.

[Edited by Duster on 02-17-2001 at 03:37 PM]

"Is anyone here torturing people because of their ethnic group or political dissension, separating families, invading countries, and performing a multitude of other horrendous acts? No, then how do you justify calling them Nazis? "

Hmmm... You do realise that there is a such thing other than black and white, there is gray, peuce, green, any millions of different colors out there.

My point? Well just as like what I said above and in my last post, it was an analogy referance. Nazis are full on extreemists of eradicating anything that THEY narcisitacly think doesn't follow what THEY believe is true.

You can contiune to sacntimoniusly support the goings on, and doubt the truth of the matter as much as you want. But fact is fact, things are going to the crapper here and something needs to be done about it.


[Edited by mysitehost on 02-17-2001 at 07:03 PM]

mysitehost,

I got that it was an analogy. My point is that it is a poor one. Your misuse of it and other terms, like narcissistic suggests you would do well to avoid analogies, metaphors and similes and speak directly to the issue.

There was nothing sanctimonious in what I said, nor was I taking sides on whatever you said. Fact is, your meaning is so nebulous that I have no idea what you meant. Thus, I couldn't take a side, even if I was so inclined. I was merely pointing out your poor choice of terms.

There are much better terms that can be used if you insist of comparisons instead of directness.

Direct enough? Even though I don't really mean that. Only, discrediting someone based on semantics and useages of words is childish and insulting, especially when you argue about it and are incorrect.

Every bit of what I said was an exelent portrayal of what people call activity such as this. I don't care about your personal vendetta against how people talk about Nazis, or use them in a sentance. My grandfather was killed for helping the jewish people.

There are thousands upon thousands of people who call those that consider every piece of e-mail they get as spam and there is no convincing them of anything otherwise, so the spam nazis (or should I type it as spam-nazis, would that make a difference for you?) report it to the "proper authorities" (who are also just as far gone in the head)and these "authorities" get you kicked off your ISP, ban you from ceartain websites, etc.
These are people call spam nazis. Oops spam-nazis.

Next, do you know what narcissism is? Aparently not to the full extent. It is not limited to looking in the mirror and loving yourself too much. It is also including loving your opinions and ideas and to hell with what everyone else thinks. Or in the case of the nazi mind, Everyone outside the arian race is impure and must die. And this idea in which they fell in love with, killed many.

Another paralell going back to x-nazis. An admin/mod-nazi thinks everyone that doesn't have my (his/her) opinion about things, or doesn't fall under what I say (is said) are the rules, must be banned, or have their post removed, locked, or moved. No questions.

In lesser terms and with obvious different subjects of fanatisism it is like what the nazis did to eradicate what they don't believe to be true.

You obviously lack the ability to think in abstract, An admin doesn't have to be killing, doing experaments, and protesting their posters before they become admin/mod-nazis. The thousands of spam-nazis out there don't have to join forces and eradicated all of the multi level marketing, and porn site buisnesses out there because they are spam ridden to be called spam-nazis.

It is the inderect refrence to the thought process and the pictorial in our minds the word "nazi" brings that portrays the point that I am making about someone who is beyond fanatical about what they are doing.

I don't appreciate you wasting our time like this. This is not what this thread was about.

If we implement the ideas I e-mailed (i'll post them here) then crap liek this doesn't happen.

Basically, we turn the power over to the posters by way of a voting system. We all know when a post is spam, we vote on getting rid of it, easy enough. We all know when a post is off topic, if we all agree it's not needed, or agree to move it, then it's either moved, or removed. This completely gets rid of any sort of bias possibility, and it also makes the moderators life a lot easier.


[Edited by mysitehost on 02-17-2001 at 07:56 PM]

MySiteHost: Based on your obvious displeasure about how the administrators are running *their* board, I think it's time you started *your own* board.

Good luck.

Originally posted by mysitehost
Direct enough? Even though I don't really mean that.

So you're a hypocrite, then? Why insult someone if you don't mean it?

You're an idiot who can't spell, doesn't understand the words he uses, and should spend more time with a dictionary than a computer.




I didn't meant it either.

That sounds just as insincere as your insult, doesn't it?

Actually, I didn't mean all of it. If you substitute "person" for "idiot", then you will have my meaning.

Only, discrediting someone based on semantics and useages of words is childish and insulting, especially when you argue about it and are incorrect.
But I'm not incorrect, you are and refuse to admit it.

You are ignoring my point (Einstein's actually) that when you use a term for comparison, you assume all that it means. You may wish to redefine it to suit your terms (ala Clinton and sex), and many of us won't accept it any more than we did Clinton's lame attempt.

The word Nazi is inappropriate for so many reasons, even just on the control issue alone, that it shouldn;t have been used.


Next, do you know what narcissism is? Aparently not to the full extent.
I do, and obviously you don't. An essential element of narcissism is the self, basically self love. Even extended to include love of one's ideas, it is not accurate to use it to describe the beliefs of a society. A society is not a self. Chauvinism is closer in meaning to what you are stating, yet it too largely deals with individual beliefs. Socio centric beliefs may lack the allegorical element as a term, though it is much more accurate.

You obviously lack the ability to think in abstract
Quite the contrary. I just don't like to see the gross misuse of terms and trivializing atrocities.


Basically, we turn the power over to the posters by way of a voting system. We all know when a post is spam, we vote on getting rid of it, easy enough. We all know when a post is off topic, if we all agree it's not needed, or agree to move it, then it's either moved, or removed. This completely gets rid of any sort of bias possibility, and it also makes the moderators life a lot easier.
Ah, at last a clear statement on what you mean. Actually, no post made here is spam. There are unwelcome and inappropriate ones, though.

I disagree with your plan. This is not a democracy. Just the voting alone would cause more disruption and static than the offending post, as well as reducing moderators to board technicians.

Moderators are chosen to carry out the policies of the forum for the benefit of the forum. If anyone doesn't care for their actions, they can take it up with the moderators, administrator, depart, or start their own forum.

You can be a narcissist all you want about your ideas by quoting things I say out of context to prove to yourself you are right. You simply prove my point more and more.

Meanwhile, I am sick of dealing with children like you. This board is pointless.

[Edited by mysitehost on 02-17-2001 at 09:38 PM]

Insults are the refuge of the intellectually incompetent.

"The only sin is stupidity." Oscar Wilde.

Wow

Your wit and cleverness are equalled by your spelling, logic and erudition.

That looks like they are making a mod for VBul that incorporates these ideas I had about the voting system. It also has some other things in there that I see is pretty usefull. I'll post the url as soon as I can find it again the power went out and I hadn't added it to favorites yet.

But, it's simply a replacement of a few files and a few added files. It didn't look like any MySQL mods were needed.


[Edited by mysitehost on 02-18-2001 at 02:14 AM]