How reliable are hosts that use the dv2 datacenter in Atlanta? What are dv2's bandwidth providers? Don't they mostly use cogent?

No .. they do not mostly use cogent

MFN is the mostly use connection as far as i know

Relability is good due to the fact bandwidth is multihomed over good networks such as Qwest , MFN , Telia .. as 10 more providers such like

We are using Dv2 datacentre and we find that we have never gone through a cognet route as yet.

The datacentre is not bad at all!

Kind regards

DO a visual trace you will see blazing fast connections.
They are great.

How much cogent bandwidth do they use? How's dv2's uptime? When's the last time they were down? How do their compare to VO and NAC?

We got a server there 2 days ago, so I can't really say much but so far they have been great, 100% uptime, I have also heard from many other people they don't have any or very few outages. That is one of the reasons we selected DV2 :)

I have heard alot of good things about DV2. Alot of hosting providers have servers there with no compaints. If you wish do a search on it and you will find alot of comments about them.

dv2's uptime has been great since we've been there, though I'm sure others who have been there longer would be a more accurate judge. Their support has been fantastic. Generally (every time except once) any of the few problems that we have had have been resolved within minutes. I really have nothing bad to say about them.

Hard to say, they do have cognet in the mix but I see very little traffic routed thru it. I think it all depends on the load time of day etc. I know they had an outage last month with a router that took down about 25% of the center for a few hours, I was never affected by it tho. Other than that, very near 100% up time. I personally think they compare quite favorable.

MFN is the mostly use connection as far as i know

Didn't MFN file Chapter 11 Bankrupty?

The way certain Telco Companies like ******** have got into trouble because of the failings of top level ********** we had all better look out. We, in future, might not have any bandwidth!

MAX POWER :homer:

Ok everyone, I was bored so I tracerouted from 12 lookingglasses/routeservers/etc to see what route gets taken to DV2. Below are the results. To me it looks like they have connections to cogent/netrail and NationalNet :-)

UUNet > NetRail > DV2
Level3 > NetRail > DV2
C&W > NetRail > DV2
Genuity > NetRail > DV2
Above > National-Net > DV2
Sprint > Cogent > DV2
ATT > NetRail > DV2
Global Crossing > NetRail > DV2
Qwest > NetRail > DV2
Broadwing > National-Net > DV2
ELI.net > National-Net > DV2
Verio > NetRail > DV2

well, not bad at all, just one traceroute with cogent

Yep, remember netrail was bought out by cogent so netrail sorta is cogent.

Doesn't Cogent own Netrail? heh

Originally posted by Neo3Net


Didn't MFN file Chapter 11 Bankrupty?

Who hasnt filled bankruptcy in the telco business?

Originally posted by rochen
We got a server there 2 days ago, so I can't really say much but so far they have been great, 100% uptime, I have also heard from many other people they don't have any or very few outages. That is one of the reasons we selected DV2 :)

Thats great, not to rain on your parade or anything but two days isnt exactly a good figure to quote 100% uptime. Ive heard good things about DV2 though, you should be in good hands.

Originally posted by jayjay
Doesn't Cogent own Netrail? heh

yea, Netrail = Cogent

I use eServers.biz who is partnered with DV2 and I am impressed with their service.

One of my servers has been up 75 days the other 24 days.
No network downtime yet. Fast speeds. There's the odd problem like a link from the Europe to US falls over, but that is fixed quickly.

All in all, I feel safe knowing that I will be opening up my hosting doors shortly.

James

Originally posted by Tetraboy
Yep, remember netrail was bought out by cogent so netrail sorta is cogent.

And NetRail was headquartered/founded in Atlanta, so if you wanted to buy NetRail/Cogent transit anywhere in North America, that would probably be the best-connected place for them.

Kevin

actually, NetRail had good connections before they got bought, I don't know about current situation

Your traceroutes and what not might looks great, but it is very easily to manipulate the inbound and outbound routes to save money and at the same time make it look as if you're using tier-1 bandwidth throughout.

Eg. inbound traffic (e.g. traceroutes) might travel along MFN or Level 3, but because inbound traffic only represents a fraction of outbound traffic providers can easily affordable a quality tier-1 pipe for inbound traffic. Then use a Cogent/Epik etc.. pipe for outbound traffic. Most people won't know, its looks good and hence you're fooled. The only way to be sure would be to do a traceroute back to you and a few others from a shell account hosted within the data center.

I'm not saying DV2 or any specific provider does this but it's just something to be aware of.

My 2p. :)

We have servers in the DV2 centre and we have had no problems at all. In fact, our Europe clients seem to think that the DV2 centre is the best centre to serve them.

Our outbound is usually cogentco while our inbound for us is usually MFN / National Net. We have absolutely no complaints about eServers or dv2, we've had servers for approx. 3 months.

Originally posted by MattF
The only way to be sure would be to do a traceroute back to you and a few others from a shell account hosted within the data center.


It'd be great if someone did this, and posted those results.

Here are some examples:

From DV2 to RACKSPACE:

[jedi@velocity jedi]$ traceroute rackspace.com
traceroute to rackspace.com (64.39.2.185), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 209.51.159.225 (209.51.159.225) 0.505 ms 0.395 ms 0.329 ms
2 205.215.2.5 (205.215.2.5) 0.853 ms 0.276 ms 0.249 ms
3 205.215.2.54 (205.215.2.54) 0.324 ms 0.325 ms 0.297 ms
4 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.101) 0.412 ms 0.484 ms 0.670 ms
5 atl-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.149) 0.798 ms 0.748 ms 0.725 ms
6 iah-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.145) 30.723 ms 30.682 ms 30.676 ms
7 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.41) 30.524 ms 30.533 ms 30.565 ms
8 iah-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.46) 30.387 ms 30.438 ms 30.350 ms
9 63.237.96.154 (63.237.96.154) 35.990 ms 35.912 ms 35.946 ms
10 vl130.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.33) 36.164 ms 36.048 ms 35.970 ms
11 vl901.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.66) 36.443 ms 36.032 ms 36.084 ms


From DV2 to BT (UK):

[jedi@velocity jedi]$ traceroute saturn.bt.com
traceroute to saturn.bt.com (193.113.57.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 209.51.159.225 (209.51.159.225) 0.649 ms 0.502 ms 0.346 ms
2 dv2-atl-core-core-b.dv2.net (209.51.131.2) 0.528 ms 0.551 ms 0.431 ms
3 f13.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.253) 0.954 ms 0.684 ms 0.995 ms
4 g0-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.241) 1.051 ms 0.657 ms 0.727 ms
5 p14-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.126) 12.862 ms 14.806 ms 12.451 ms
6 p6-0.br01.dca01.atlas.psi.net (154.54.1.62) 12.863 ms 12.250 ms 12.436 ms
7 p6-0.se.peering.tier1.psi.net (154.54.1.78) 13.626 ms 14.624 ms 14.638 ms
8 se.peering-j.tier1.us.psi.net (154.13.2.40) 14.084 ms 15.071 ms 14.051 ms
9 * acr1-so-2-2-3-0.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.179.217) 291.607 ms 291.447 ms
10 agr3-loopback.Washington.cw.net (206.24.226.103) 297.653 ms 285.625 ms 290.139 ms


From BT (UK) to DV2:

9 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms core2-gig2-1.manchester.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.5.75]
10 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms core2-pos13-1.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.126]
11 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms core2-pos13-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.249]
12 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms core2-pos7-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.121]
13 20 ms 10 ms 30 ms pos7-1.mpr2.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.156.217]
14 10 ms 10 ms 30 ms so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.156.2]
15 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms so-0-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net [208.184.231.145]
16 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms so-7-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.mfnx.net [64.125.31.186]
17 100 ms 100 ms 110 ms so-4-1-0.cr2.atl2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.50]
18 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms pos1-0.per1.atl2.us.mfnx.net [208.185.0.226]
19 101 ms 100 ms 110 ms abovenet-tr1.atl2-1-1.national-net.com [66.115.128.53]
20 100 ms 101 ms 110 ms tr1.atl2-1-2-tr1.atl1-1-8.national-net.com [66.115.128.42]

21 100 ms 111 ms 110 ms 209.51.137.125
22 * 101 ms 100 ms velocity.eservers.biz [209.51.159.226]


I hope this helps.
I dont have a box at Rackspace, so if someone does that dosent mind doing a traceroute from there box to 209.51.159.226 by all means post it here.


Imran

Whats so special about DV2? :eek:

Originally posted by edude
Whats so special about DV2? :eek:

The answer to your question is drum roll please.......

ME :stickout


Imran

lol Imran ;)

I guess thats a satisfactory answer ;)

I dont think anyone said they were special , just a name among the reliabe solutions out there.

Reliable solutions? Do you use them? :eek:

Well, there don't seem to be any hosts that use a Nashville datacenter, so I was looking at hosts that use dv2 in Atlanta since that's only a 4-1/2 drive, and it seems to be a popular datacenter for resellers here at WHT.

Where exactly in Atlanta is dv2? Could I get a tour if I'm in Atlanta? I want to take pictures so I can put them on my site and claim its my data center like some of you guys do. :)

No, we dont lease servers from companies...we're working on a new center in fact.

I thought you used to use dialtone? BTW will that mean new dedicated server pricing?

Originally posted by edude
I thought you used to use dialtone?

Yes we do, but we do not lease servers from them. I think we are the reason they gave up on doing colocation services :) ...must have driven them mad.

BTW will that mean new dedicated server pricing?

To say the least ;)


now...back on track to DV2 >

:cool:

lol ;) Great, good luck with the move :)

I believe they are at 55 Marietta St. Forgot which suite #. You should contact Jeff Whinkle about a tour. :-) They'res also tons of other datacenters in atlanta.

Originally posted by chrisb
Well, there don't seem to be any hosts that use a Nashville datacenter, so I was looking at hosts that use dv2 in Atlanta since that's only a 4-1/2 drive, and it seems to be a popular datacenter for resellers here at WHT.

Where exactly in Atlanta is dv2? Could I get a tour if I'm in Atlanta? I want to take pictures so I can put them on my site and claim its my data center like some of you guys do. :)

Chris,

We could probably arrange a tour, but pictures we'd have to think about that.

email imran@eservers.biz and i'll see what I can do.

Imran

1720 :). Is there number. I'm sure you can take pictures. I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean come on .

Originally posted by Tetraboy
I believe they are at 55 Marietta St. Forgot which suite #. You should contact Jeff Whinkle about a tour. :-) They'res also tons of other datacenters in atlanta.

Darn it! That's downtown. I'm not much on visiting downtown areas. Why couldn't it be right off I-75 in Cobb County or West Paces Ferry? :) About the pics, I was joking.

While you are there on Marietta street, check out 56Marietta. they are in the old Western Union building. 56 Marietta St. is the address. Park in the garage across the street. Be sure to call Mark and ask for the tour though. He will let you take pics with no problems. The plus to 56 is that they are carrier neutral and bandwidth runs $125-$225 per meg depensing on what tier ISP you choose. You talk directly with the carriers about price/etc and pick who you want. No cross connect fees either. Another good colo place is e^DeltaCom in Suwanee, about 45 minutes north of 56. 56marietta.com (ask for Mark if you call) or edeltacom.com (ask for Ted Davis if you call). We do business with both of them and they both are far and above what we expected.

Thankyou for brining up a thread nearly two years old.

Originally posted by MN-Robert
Thankyou for brining up a thread nearly two years old. Don't think I need to add anything. Thread closed.