I have several accounts with them and 2 out of the 5 I have are down.
Are they coming back on or what? Anyone have any news?
I have made arrangements for 1 account to be moved as this does not look good.
Anyone have any info please let me know.

Thxs

Dale

From http://www.cwstatus.com/

New DC in Virginia is complete. Lines will be activated today, I've already had my hand-scanned for access to the building (BioMetrix Security System). Servers will be heading in shortly. No ETA when the actual "move" will happen, but it will. 4 New Class C's are being assigned today, will post a list of OLD IP's and NEW IP's on cwstatus.com within 24 hours.

Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint are in activation on a usage basis only as secondary providers. 100MBit Line from Cogent is activate and lit as of right now.

Virginia DC - 155,000 sqft, Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint. Primary 100MBit Line from Cogent. 5 Class C's readily available (currently only using 2 1/2).

Sounds pretty uptown to me :D

Wish I could afford 155,000 sq feet, no clue what I'd do with it (get me one of those little scooters and ride around in it going "wheeeee" comes to mind). Wonder if it has escalators, I've always wanted my own building with my own escalator.

Mind you, Shawn, our fearless leader, managed to set this up in a 48-72hr period...155,000sq ft... :laugh:

Oh, and of course it has escalators...how else would the pink elephants move from floor to floor?

A 155,000 sqft building would of course be larger than 300 feet by 500 feet, a possible necessity given the size of some of SW's statements.

Will Shawn get in trouble with Burger King? I thought the food chain had already trademarked "Home of the Whopper".

:homer: DOH!!

Does anyone have the info for the IRC for Cyberwings. Wanted to get some info and figured this might be the only way as their site is down. Thanks,
Jim

http://www.cwstatus.com/

Originally posted by jimmartens
Does anyone have the info for the IRC for Cyberwings. Wanted to get some info and figured this might be the only way as their site is down. Thanks,
Jim

server irc.cyberwings.com
channel #cyberwings

..

Well, I just had to go check out this chat room that everyone's talking about. Wow...there are people asking how to sign up for new accounts! P.T. Barnum was never more right...

Step right up folks!

http://chat.webmaster.com/chat.htm?@channel=Cyberwings

Heard most is up now

Originally posted by Dixiesys
From http://www.cwstatus.com/

New DC in Virginia is complete. Lines will be activated today, I've already had my hand-scanned for access to the building (BioMetrix Security System). Servers will be heading in shortly. No ETA when the actual "move" will happen, but it will. 4 New Class C's are being assigned today, will post a list of OLD IP's and NEW IP's on cwstatus.com within 24 hours.

Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint are in activation on a usage basis only as secondary providers. 100MBit Line from Cogent is activate and lit as of right now.

Virginia DC - 155,000 sqft, Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint. Primary 100MBit Line from Cogent. 5 Class C's readily available (currently only using 2 1/2).

Sounds pretty uptown to me :D

Wish I could afford 155,000 sq feet, no clue what I'd do with it (get me one of those little scooters and ride around in it going "wheeeee" comes to mind). Wonder if it has escalators, I've always wanted my own building with my own escalator.

Call me a sceptic but until I see an address I can send one of my relatives living in Va to, then I dont beleive any of this. It takes months upon months to build out a 155k sq ft facility...not to mention upwards of 20+ million .... this is not a facility owned by that guy and I guarantee he is misrepresenting things.

155k sq ft facility in 48hrs... ya right, real estate closings alone would take forever.

Hi Jag ;)

I agree with you Jag, but how do you know its not just a big scrap metal shed?

Originally posted by edude
Hi Jag ;)

I agree with you Jag, but how do you know its not just a big scrap metal shed?

Even if it were, you still cant close on that much space (within distance of fiber connections) in 48hrs. ..not to mention have the fiber routed, network setup, etc. ...

Im sure he is just in a colo facility , perhaps a carrier nuetral one, but still a colo facility.

Yes, so its lieing to his customers, many hosts seem to do this these days..

This is pathetic, still with most of the sites down, he continues with his dumb sales, he takes all your money then can't come through....


PreLaunch Now for Those Who Want It
July 11th, 2002

in this issue


Reseller & AYW Account PreLaunch Additions

Individual PreLaunch Accounts

Dedicated Server PreLaunch - 2 Available

Specific PreLaunch Deal?






Reseller & AYW Account PreLaunch Additions

Due to the fact that in our new DC we are sitting on top of literally 10x the bandwidth that our previous data center had (and we didn't even use the bandwidth we had allocated in Maine to its full extent!) we would like to offer AYW accounts & Resellers the ability to add 50GB of bandwidth to any account for $40. You can add 100GB of bandwidth to any account for $75. We have ample bandwidth to pass around, so why not share a bit of it at extremely low costs. As always these are one time fees.

2CheckOut Link Here

Greetings!
Due to the overwhelming number of requests I have received for prelaunch colocation, dedicated & account deals, this email is for those who have requested that. For those who did not request that, please ignore this email unless you are interested.

If you find anything in this email that you are interested in, please email prelaunch@cwstatus.com for information on how to confirm your reservation for these services in our new DC. Again, for those who are not interested, just stop reading now and move on. There is no reason why we cannot offer a variety of PreLaunch offers for those who are requesting them, and make them available to everyone, even while we are transitioning. Gawk at this if you wish, but we are offering these to people who want them before our launch in our Virginia DC. If you're not interested, move on and don't bother reading this email. For those of you who are interested, enjoy the PreLaunch deals!






Individual PreLaunch Accounts

Individual Accounts are so easy for us to provide, and such a wonderful thing for people to have. Individual Plans 1-10 are $1.00 through $10.00 according to their plan #. Example: Plan 1 is $1.00 and Plan 10 is $10.00 - very simple. If you need to know what each plan comes with, please see below:
All plans below will come with 9GB of monthly transfer. All previous Individual Plans sold will be increased to 8GB of monthly transfer after the transition. I1 - 20mb, I2 - 40mb, I3 - 60mb, I4 - 80mb, I5 - 100mb, I6 - 150mb, I7 - 200mb, I8 - 250mb, I9 - 300mb, I10 - 500mb.



Dedicated Server PreLaunch - 2 Available

AMD T-Bird 1800+, 1GB of RAM, 60gb Hard Drives, 5 IP's included with 150GB of monthly transfer. $400 one time fee and $0.50 per GB AFTER your 150GB allocation each month. No flat monthly fee to keep the server on our network. 2 Available.



Specific PreLaunch Deal?

If you are looking for a specific PreLaunch deal, please contact one of our staff members in the IRC Chat Channel or email prelaunch@cwstatus.com and let us know what you are looking for. Remember, the bandwidth at our new DC is absolutely stellar, so if you're looking to add LARGER amounts of bandwidth to any accounts, we can do it and give you an awesome deal. Please remember that PLESK Software has a limitation of 999GB on any "AYW/RESELLER" account.
That's it folks... I'm getting back to the move today, but at least these are out there for those who want them. I won't be pushing these heavily but do encourage those who want them to get them - my focus is going to be on finishing our transition, distribution reseller IP's, and restoring normalcy in a very trying period for everyone.

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This guy offers a dedicated server for $400 setup and no monthly fee? whatever :eek:

Hey Jag, if he built a datacentre that quick or setup it up, he must have the money to do it at that price ;)

J/K

Originally posted by Jag
This guy offers a dedicated server for $400 setup and no monthly fee? whatever :eek: What's wrong with that?

oh nothing, I just forgot for a second that all telco's now give you free unlimited acccess to their lines and facilities no longer charge you a lease fee. ...silly me ! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Jag
oh nothing, I just forgot for a second that all telco's now give you free unlimited acccess to their lines and facilities no longer charge you a lease fee. ...silly me ! :rolleyes:

We love to dream, don't we?:stickout

Was there ever a real/complete explanation about what happened with his old DC?????

Yes headsurfer, their was, it got abducted by aliens.. :bawling:

Originally posted by Jag
oh nothing, I just forgot for a second that all telco's now give you free unlimited acccess to their lines and facilities no longer charge you a lease fee. ...silly me ! :rolleyes: How dare you forget?

Originally posted by headsurfer
Was there ever a real/complete explanation about what happened with his old DC?????

They got really mad at me when I asked that on their IRC channel...wonder why...lol

lol, whats the irc channel? and network? might join in on the fun ;)

Originally posted by edude
lol, whats the irc channel? and network? might join in on the fun ;)

irc.cyberwings.com

#cyberwings

14 days downtime and still nothing. 14 days!

Well CEO-Shawn (Our fearless leader) has to build the new flagship datacenter brick by brick, you know...

Guess his 'datacenter' turned out to be a couple boxes in coloc that are now siezed for non-payment. (from another thread here)

Even if he manages to get some other sucker to give him space while his old host still has his machines in lockup, it will only be a matter of months or even week before hes locked out again.

They have gone from offering non-profit level prices to what some might call outright fraudulent offerings, such as $400 for a computer and a lifetime of coloc and bandwidth.

Seems like fraud at least to take money knowing full well in advance you will never, ever be able to provide the product you collected the money for.

Those sales are IMHO a desperate bid for cash from someone who so broke hes just saying anything that will get the suckers to cough up a few more dollars.

I paid in April...besides the billing service I have yet to see an email from them.

I felt despite the endless promotions since they were located in my backyard (maine) if I got ripped I could easily take them to court.

Now they fled to Virginia?

Any ideas to get what I paid for? (was promised)

LOL - the longer he stays down, the more customers I add. I'm not gonna complain at ALL! :D

I don't know if you can promote yourself in these messageboards BUT thanks for letting me know you exist.

Small Account? Seems good to me at the year price.---or might say who can beat it?


Sure your not collecting money to move to Florida?

I wish not to bash Cyberwings. I did pay for an account in April and yet to hear anything. As aware there would be un-realistic 'sales' neverending. Most said Cyberwings was AOK so?

I could write a list of places I have bought accounts with here and its a nightmare.

The most irritating thing is it seems every time you buy an account whats next? NEVERENDING CHANGES. New server...server changes...account plan changes.Promised grandfathering that you scream about and they can't understand you. Ya know...I just want webspace thats normally 'up' and works...not to keep tuned 24/7 as to what changes I have to make to keep up to the webhosting service.

FREE is dead but options for those that just want to put up personal websites? We don't want to pay fortunes OR one simply makes the decision why pay for something we make no money on?


So...thanks for the information there is an economy place left...(unless your packing for florida...)

Originally posted by zz4
I don't know if you can promote yourself in these messageboards BUT thanks for letting me know you exist.

So...thanks for the information there is an economy place left...(unless your packing for florida...)

I'm truly sorry - that was just my signature line (which I've removed). Feel free to check our support forum for comments as to my business practices - and NO, I'm not moving to FL - too muggy there for me. But it is nice to visit once a year or so. :)

Originally posted by Dixiesys
From http://www.cwstatus.com/

New DC in Virginia is complete. Lines will be activated today, I've already had my hand-scanned for access to the building (BioMetrix Security System). Servers will be heading in shortly. No ETA when the actual "move" will happen, but it will. 4 New Class C's are being assigned today, will post a list of OLD IP's and NEW IP's on cwstatus.com within 24 hours.

Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint are in activation on a usage basis only as secondary providers. 100MBit Line from Cogent is activate and lit as of right now.

Virginia DC - 155,000 sqft, Dual T3's from AT&T & Sprint. Primary 100MBit Line from Cogent. 5 Class C's readily available (currently only using 2 1/2).
.


Are you sure cwstatus isn't really the status page for Cable and Wireless :D?

I am in Northern Virginia, and, as most people know, in need of a job. I have helped design data center networks for buildings larger than this...please feel free to pass on my resume, I would be happy to help them out :D :D :D.

You can't miss this thread ...... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60680

The following is a Cyberwings Press Release

The Future At Cyberwings

- July 15th, 2002 - Let me give you a bit of history, before I get too deep into this announcement. When you read this newsletter and see the amount of time & effort I have put into this announcement you will understand why this announcement was delayed for a few days while I wrote this in its entirety. Around the first part of June 2002 Cyberwings network in Maine started to experience major latency & intermittent outage issues. Going on our Maine DC Provider's recommendation that our switch was the issue, we replaced our switch at the Maine DC and the problems persisted. We contacted support for our switch and spent 3 hours reconfiguring the switch. The problems persisted. Our upstream providers were unable (or obviously unwilling) to provide extended technical assistance. As we found out with our Maine DC, during the 4-5 months we existed there, 24/7 support was not true 24/7 support and our lines were not truly redundant as we were told. Of course we had to learn these things the hard way - when lines went down and routers went haywire and we tried to reach "Support." In turn, customers of Cyberwings were just as frustrated as we were. We never once blamed our DC Provider, however, we just reported technical difficulties. Truth be told, 24/7 technical support turned out to be "Page a Technician, Pray to get a Response within 1 hour and Pray you get a Data Tech and not a Voice Tech." We lost confidence in our Maine DC support position very quickly and knew, just recently, that our Maine DC was not the place to grow Cyberwings to its full potential. As we began to make plans to consolidate our Texas servers & Maine Servers (and leave a few servers in our Maine DC for backup purposes) into a Premier Cyberwings Data Center in Virginia where our bandwidth would be 10x our capacity in Maine, where we had guaranteed in writing SLA's and where we had true 24/7 on-site technical assistance at our beck and call, our Maine DC Provider caught wind and did not like that very much. They proceeded to limit our bandwidth, terminate our access to our servers and breach our confidentiality agreement by having internal employees of their company release information throughout the internet, via email and various forum postings, as well as voice to some inquiries, which was not entirely accurate, worded in favor of their position, and certainly not the "rest of the story." As of July 15th, 2002, even though the servers in Maine are 100% company assets of Cyberwings, our Maine DC provider still continues to deny us access to retrieve our hardware. Rest assured we are preparing the proper actions in response to this hostile situation. It is Cyberwings right, by law, to retrieve assets owned by our company from our Maine DC by brute legal force if our Maine DC provider does not release them willingly. We have a choice to make, as a web hosting provider, to continue to battle with our Maine DC providers who are are comitting illegal acts by holding assets that are not owned by them, or to move on and rebuild our organization in a much better, much faster, much more high tech facility, where we are guaranteed much better service AND support than we have ever previously had. Do we sit, wait and wallow in a position we have been put in unjustly or do we bust out, rebuild bigger & better, and move on, while all the time never forgetting the lessons we have learned from this situation. As a company, Cyberwings has made the decision to do the latter - bust out, rebuild & learn our lessons, and move forward, bigger & better. We choose not to lower ourselves to anyone elses level, to take this situation with the hits that we are bound to take, and to rebuild, and move forward. With this choice comes the next choice to install 30 brand new Dual Pentium 4 1.6ghz Servers in the new Data Center in Virginia, each running with 2GB of RAM, Dual SCSI 120GB Hard Drives (for data redundancy & backup purposes - with room for a third drive in the future). We will also be installing quite a few AMD 1.8ghz servers that we had left over from our Maine DC that were never installed there. The 30 new servers and roughly 8 AMD 1.8ghz servers are in our hands right now. Some are already at our new DC and we will be posting download links shortly for everyone to test our connections, etc. These servers, along with our brand new 100MBit lines from Cogent and Dual T3 lines from AT&T & Sprint will enable us to blow the doors off the hosting industry and provide much faster & more stable hosting to our already huge customer base. While we realize that this downtime has been a huge inconvenience, for everyone involved - including Cyberwings, we also have to realize that this is our opportunity to take this beast of an organization by the horns and rebuild it in a way that fosters better & faster customer support, customer service, customer management, and customer focus. Not to mention much faster lines, premier technical support within our Data Center. All good things for you, and us, in the long run. Short term during this move & transition will be hard, no way around that. We will be working 24/7, and bringing additional staff on board, to get 100% of all customers back online as quickly as possible. You will need to upload your data & recreate your sites again, just as we will need to help you do this. We have put together a brand new set of hosting plans (with brand new specifications & pricing) as well as a VERY fair compensation plan for customers who have stuck through this incredibly hard period with us. Please read on to read about our new hosting plans (including specifications & pricing - and how this will effect old customers), to read about our new billing & customer management solution and to read about our compensation plan for Individual, AYW & Reseller Account holders. Everyone gets something, and everyone gets a very fair (generous?) amount of additional bandwidth, space, domains, and free hosting time, to help combat the past 2 weeks of issues. This newsletter will be one of the most informative newsletters you will ever receive from Cyberwings, so please, read on.

Many INDIVIDUAL Account holders questioned Cyberwings as to whether or not they could consolidate all of their INDIVIDUAL accounts into an AYW account very easily. With PLESK's limitations, the answer was no. While we knew we were going to have to rebuild our entire Maine DC in Virginia we, as a team, agreed that now is the time to allow ALL Individual Account Holders to upgrade to AYW Accounts free of charge, without penalties. Every customer who had individual accounts on our Maine DC will be given an AYW Account with the ability to recreate 100% of those domains, make changes to them, etc. whenever they wish. The prices you paid for the old individual accounts, if less than the new AYW on a yearly basis, will remain the same. If the AYW is less than the combined total of what your INDIVIDUAL accounts were, then you will receive the AYW price at your renewal. Either way we go, you will get the lowest price we have for renewal, period. All Individual to AYW conversions get 3 months of free additional hosting before renewal time.

All existing AYW accounts will get 50% more bandwidth & space within our new Virginia DC. You will be given 3 months of free additional hosting time before your renewal time, and you will also receive the lowest possible price on your renewal - whether it be your old AYW price or the new AYW price, either way, you will get the lowest price we have available for AYW's on your renewal, period. You will have the choice to be billed YEARLY or Monthly since you were all signed up under the older YEARLY pricing plans.

All existing Reseller accounts will get 50% more bandwidth & space within our new Virginia DC. You will be given 6 months of free additional hosting time before your renewal time, and you will also receive the lowest possible price on your renewal - whether it be your old Reseller price or the new Reseller price, either way, you will get the lowest price we have available for Reseller's on your renewal, period.

Lifetime & ZAPPED Account Specifics
All Lifetime & ZAPPED Accounts - you will receive 50% more bandwidth & more space on all of your accounts when they are set back up on our new Virginia DC servers. You will receive this 50% FROM your current level - so if you had an AYW 1 Lifetime ZAP5x'd, you will get the 50% additional Space & Bandwidth from the 5x'd amount - not from your base. This goes for Lifetime AYW's & Resellers - we want to be VERY fair here and we believe this is VERY fair. Please note due to PLESK limitations we have to cap the available bandwidth at 999GB on any AYW or Reseller Account. We will handle each customer on a case by case basis, however, we will be very fair and guarantee you certain minimums to be met with these additional "freebies."

cont....

New AYW & Reseller Pricing & Specifications
**AYW PLANS** Instead of having 12 separate AYW plans, we have consolidated our plans into 5 available options. AYW1-5 will now be available with the following specifications: AYW1/5/250MB/12GB/5 - $2.49/mo, AYW/10/400MB/24GB/10 - $3.99/mo, AYW3/15/650MB/36GB/15 - $5.49/mo, AYW4/20/800MB/48GB/20 - $6.99/mo, AYW5/25/1000MB/60GB/25 - $8.49/mo. Example: AYW1 comes with 5 domains, 250mb of Space, 12GB of Bandwidth, and 5 Databases. The rest of these above should be read in the same manner. AYW plans do not come with Private Nameservers. **RESELLER PLANS** Instead of having 8 separate Reseller plans, we have consolidated our plans into 5 available options. RESELLER1-5 will now be available with the following specifications: All reseller plans come with UNLIMITED Domains & Unlimited Databases. RES1/1GB/80GB - $11.99/mo, RES2/2GB/160GB - $19.99/mo, RES3/3GB/240GB - $27.99/mo, RES4/4GB/320GB - $35.99/mo, RES5/5GB/450GB - $43.99/mo. Reseller Plans do come with 2 IP's in order to activate private nameservers for your business use. PLEASE BE AWARE: If your yearly price you paid is LOWER than our new monthly price x 12, you will stay at your OLD YEARLY PRICE - we have always guaranteed, and will continue to guarantee, NO PRICE INCREASES for those people who have already purchased accounts on our servers.

Cyberwings.com, our HelpDesk and our Billing/Customer Management software, will be online within 3-4 days to allow all customers to start this rebuilding process with us. We have implemented ModernBill Customer Management & Billing Software with our servers, along with integration with our Merchant Account, which will help facilitate faster & easier customer billing, invoicing & management solutions within our own customized version of ModernBill. Within 1-2 days we will begin to post the PROCESS by which all customers will be able to submit their information to us t have it setup on our servers in a merged AYW or Reseller Account. We have developed a very simple & very informative user questionnaire that each customer will need to complete ONLY ONCE in order to get their information to us. Basically, it will be your "customer record", in our database, where 100% of your information, including information on all of your accounts, will be stored. Each customer record will be handled on an individual case-by-case personal basis by a live CW employee who will contact you immediately should we have any questions about how you want your accounts to be re- established. We are not going to ask for your permission to give you free space & bandwidth, etc., we are just going to give it to you. We figured you would not mind having free bandwidth & space - who would?

Blessing in Disguise
This situation is a very harsh one in a lot of ways, but in other ways, it's a blessing in disguise. This give us the opportunity to reorganize & relaunch our organization with top notch customer service, support & managment tools that YOU can use to help keep in touch with us. This gives you the opportunity to get MUCH more control over your sites, your accounts, etc. This will effect every aspect of our business, from the oldest customers to the newest ones, and I think everyone will be very happy as to the outcome of this situation very shortly. Progress on this situation from this point forward will be swift, efficient, and we will not be looking back on our past to hold us back. We are looking forward and we hope that you are looking forward with us as well. I will be recruiting additional staff members in the next few days who have expressed interest in Cyberwings to get on board with us and get them trained in account setups, our rebuilding process, etc.

Important Note
PLEASE BE AWARE: If your yearly price you paid is LOWER than our new monthly price x 12, you will stay at your OLD YEARLY PRICE - we have always guaranteed, and will continue to guarantee, NO PRICE INCREASES for those people who have already purchased accounts on our servers. We appreciate your support. You will see MORE information about this situation, our new processes, etc. being posted on www.cwstatus.com in the next 24-48 hours so that we all can get back to working at restoring normalcy here within our community. I appreciate all of the wonderful letters of support & comments I have received - your strength, support & wonderful faith in our community is fueling my drive to bring everything back - bigger & better! Watch for more updates later today, Monday July 15th, 2002 from Cyberwings.


Shawn J. White, CEO of Cyberwings
Cyberwings reserves the right to modify any information in this email if we have found that we have made a simple typographical error in our printing. We have given every effort to be sure that information, pricing & specifications in this email are 100% accurate, however, mistakes do happen. If we find an error we will immediately issue another copy of this email with an update.

38 servers in 155,000 squarefoot data center?? If the servers are all 2U, that's only two racks. Add in a third rack for networking equipment (unless they are installing Juniper M160s, then add in two more racks, for four total).


Those racks are gonna look awfully lonely in that data center.

Maybe they can rent the rest of the place out as a roller rink :D.

Yawn.... :eek:

All reseller plans come with UNLIMITED Domains & Unlimited Databases. RES1/1GB/80GB - $11.99/mo, RES2/2GB/160GB - $19.99/mo, RES3/3GB/240GB - $27.99/mo, RES4/4GB/320GB - $35.99/mo, RES5/5GB/450GB - $43.99/mo. Reseller Plans do come with 2 IP's in order to activate private nameservers for your business use.

I think cyberwings is going to repeat it self again with that price structure.

>>
With this choice comes the next choice to install 30 brand new Dual Pentium 4 1.6ghz Servers in the new Data Center in Virginia, each running with 2GB of RAM, Dual SCSI 120GB Hard Drives (for data redundancy & backup purposes - with room for a third drive in the future).
<<

1) Isn't that a bit overkill for their $3/year hosting accounts?

2) I didn't know they made 120 GB SCSI drives.

Hal

Man, what a load. Over and over we get nothing but "updates" about future updates. Once again we customers are told that things will be up and running "in 3 or 4 days". I have been waiting 16 days to learn the answer to one question: when will I be able to FTP in and get my files & dump my db? You cannot ask this question in the IRC #cyberwings chat, the flunkies there know NOTHING, they claim. And they will ban you or set the channel where no one can post if you ask. I know he is lying about Lightship, I have talked to them on the phone. How can you trust someone who lies like this?

The last back up I made was a few weeks before the outage. If I lose the interim data due to this brazen violation of customer relations I will make my new hobby corralling other burned CW customers to boycott and bash Cyberwings publicly. Guess I'll go get the domain name CyberwingsScam.com and get started. This guy should be fiscally punished.

My interpretation of the "update" was that all data was lost (they backed up to servers in the same building) - and they would help you rebuild your lost data (assuming they meant databses and HTML).

Just my observation.

Originally posted by hbouma
>>

2) I didn't know they made 120 GB SCSI drives.

Hal

180GB SCSI drives are available now, lowest price on pricewatch.com is $999 :-/

Ah - I see what you mean - not a valid/probable increment!! Good catch!

$999 - SCSI 181.6GB
$350 - SCSI 73.4GB
$207 - SCSI 50.0GB

Yeah, they will "help", I'm sure. Their customer support before this was atrocious, it will be worse now.

That's because Shawn 'hires' volunteers to do all the work for him. 'Companies' like this are an insult to the entire industry.

The most interesting phrase in that treatise Shawn put out was:

"They proceeded to. . . release information . . ., which was not entirely accurate"

This apparently refers to an alleged employee posting, stating cyberwings was $30K in arrears.

The word "entirely" appears to mean the amount due wasn't exactly $30,000.00.

http://www.cwstatus.com is down!!!! What the heck is going on?

This is so frustrating. :angry:

Originally posted by uuallan
38 servers in 155,000 squarefoot data center?? If the servers are all 2U, that's only two racks. Add in a third rack for networking equipment (unless they are installing Juniper M160s, then add in two more racks, for four total).


Those racks are gonna look awfully lonely in that data center.

Maybe they can rent the rest of the place out as a roller rink :D.

maybe they are going for the retro, mod type look. 3 racks in the very center of 155k square feet. :D

Originally posted by hbouma
>>
With this choice comes the next choice to install 30 brand new Dual Pentium 4 1.6ghz Servers in the new Data Center in Virginia, each running with 2GB of RAM, Dual SCSI 120GB Hard Drives (for data redundancy & backup purposes - with room for a third drive in the future).
<<

1) Isn't that a bit overkill for their $3/year hosting accounts?

2) I didn't know they made 120 GB SCSI drives.

Hal

yeah, i thought about 80gigs was max for ultra160 :-P

brute legal forceTake law into your own hands, beat someone with a gavel!

As for the 155k sq. foot facility: that's not hard, if you count all the land we have behind our lease building - including parking lot - that's easily 155k sq. feet. Mind you outdoor racks are hosted at your own risk.

-Matt

The fact that 120G SCSI drives don't apparently even exist is really a telling fact.

Maybe he means 120G IDE drives? Those certainly do exist :D Heck got a terabyte of them I ordered the other day myself.

Big SCSI's exist, but they're expensive. I'm not familliar with a 120gb model, but I suppose someone makes one.

http://www.piranhatech.com/products/viewproduct.asp?catid=1008&subcatid=2034&manufacturer=SEAGATE&productid=2373

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=on&mode_w=on&site=www.cyberwings.com&submit=Examine

CWSTATUS.COM appears to be down.

A copy of the latest status can be found on:

http://www.arrowx.com/info/

Wow look at the hosting history. There's like a dozen entries in it.

Edit: Oh I just realized that every OS/Apache update makes a new entry.

4 different isps in 1 year? tisk tisk :D

Originally posted by RackNine
Mind you outdoor racks are hosted at your own risk.
*guaranteed to work between 2 and 3pm when the shade comes over, on a sunny day, during fall, or spring. Contract exempts alternate weather conditions, sticky fingered thieves and bladder filled canines.

:D

Greg Moore

Shawn is in the chatroom right now answering questions.

Speaking of the RackShack servers:

* CEO-Shawn - CUSTOMERS ON THE RACKSHACK SERVERS - PLEASE START DOING YOUR BACKUPS NOW - NO ETA ON WHEN THAT MOVE MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT IT VERY WELL
COULD BE *SOON*!
* CEO-Shawn - CUSTOMERS ON THE RACKSHACK SERVERS - PLEASE START DOING YOUR BACKUPS NOW - NO ETA ON WHEN THAT MOVE MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT IT VERY WELL
COULD BE *SOON*!

<DanielJarrett_CWV> Are the relations with Rackshack going badly?
<CEO-Shawn> DANIELJARRET: No, not at all, it's just time to move on and consolidate everything into ONE.

and

<Jan-CWStaff> Superbigbob> Shawn. Do you think mass e-mails from us to lightship would prompt them to make our data available? Or something else
you would recommend we dp?
<CEO-Shawn> SUPERBIGBOB: Right now, no. We are very likely to get our injunction sooner than anything else.

Interesting.

Originally posted by Dixiesys
The fact that 120G SCSI drives don't apparently even exist is really a telling fact.

Maybe he means 120G IDE drives? Those certainly do exist :D Heck got a terabyte of them I ordered the other day myself.

Maybe he did mean 120 GB IDE drives but thats my point. If he can't even get the facts straight on his "NEW" hardware, its a hard sell to believe anything else he's talking about. (Or maybe he really doesn't understand what he's doing. Which can take us into a whole new ballpark of problems).

Hal

Originally posted by hbouma


(Or maybe he really doesn't understand what he's doing. Which can take us into a whole new ballpark of problems).

Hal

bingo - we have a winnah!

please see:

http://www.cyberwingsowesmemoney.com

:o
I would just like to take a poll, not to start anything but, how many can say they got a refund ? I would just like to know and have it stated for the record. After all he has megga bucks and does this for the good of all surfers , right?
You dont have to say if you dont want to, I never paid him for 3 months so I never requested a refund !!!!!!!!:stickout
because I spent about 94 hours in his chat room and divide that by the bill , man did I lose money,,,sshshshshshshsh....

still no websites up........

and people still waiting in chatrooms for news, the scam continues (what a surprise).

I love this one:

Afternoon Update:
Gordon writes in:

I just got my cyberwings refund in today's mail. All $2.70 of it in the form of a Western Union money order.
CEO Shawn has an interesting place to do his banking. The money order was issued by:

7 Eleven

Yes the convenience store whose slogan is "Oh thank heaven, for 7 Eleven"

-Gordo/aahala


That just shows what type of ISP we are dealing with here. Glad when I was starting all of this up that I did not get a company like that, I would of never made it this far.....

Well, if I need a money order I usually hit Krogers and not my bank. Kroger's charges like $.89 and my bank wants like $4.

Granted if I send a refund it's a company check and not a 7-11 or Krogers MO :D

I would always either use a company check or reverse the credit card transaction.

Company check is good come tax time for the nice writeoffs, then again, maybe he wants the 89 cents more for writeoff....

After all these problems, you think he still has a company checking account?

Appearantly not if he is sending out $2.70 money orders. That is almost a black eye dead giveaway.

Now building this new DC, what is he going to do, give the providers, builders, suppliers, etc. a money order and ask them to give credit to him with no P+L statements, no checking account to verify that he is even making any money, etc? Thank you, you just proved my point on what I was leading up to.

Then, just another observation, if he is doing that much business that he is going to build a 10-20M DC, would you not think that he would have his own merchant account with better rates than 2CO? Nothing against 2CO, but it is really a good starter account until you have enough to justify your own merchant account.....

:D

Hello,

Tried to access http://www.cwstatus.com and seems it's down. Anyone has got any idea ?

Thanks

CWstatus has been gone since the main page came back online - it doesn't exist anymore.