Hello, my name is ilan im kinda new here,
few days ago i bought 50% of hosting company that located in germany,
the company offers webhosting and webdesign solutions, it got about 40 costumers.

the truth is that the company is at the wrost situation it's been from the start.

what are the steps for re build ur buisness?

untill now we didnt offered any credit card payment, just Paypal, these days we offer Wire trensfer ,PayPal, and phisycal credit card payment, by calling to costumers and chargin his CC .

and we offer 4 language support : Hebrew,English,German,Spanish.

those are 2 steps i made.

it's just a rented server and not our hardware or rack servers, we rent server and rerent it to costumers, due to our finicial situation we cant afford much, i have a budget of 800-1000$ , tought about buying/building my own server for start i dont need much just to host 50 costumers.

today a designer working on new design, as i said we offer webdesign and webhosting soultion, plz any kind of help from getting some server admin to buying a server, would be nice to learn more .

thanks and good day

well,
what you need is not some one to teach you,
but you rather just start a datacenter
rent some industrial land, like 100sq ft should do for starting off...
buy 1 heavy duty 8 core server and cram up about 2 TB of ram
mount it on 10mb/s up and down connection
then start selling hosting
in this way it will be much easier for you to start off...
from the money you make,develop your datacenter...
initially, dont keep 24/7 monitoring...
get some staff as you get the funds.

You should have asked this question before you purchased the business. Reguardless, you can rebuild it with even that small of investment considering only 50 clients.

Personally, I could pay for most of the server/account expenses for a year on $1k. 50 clients is minimal to put on a server. You could do 50 on a higher end VPS.

After all is said and done, you should seriously ask yourself these question before hand. Otherwise you'll constantly be trying to solve problems rather than prevent them in the first place.

Just my $0.02
Good Luck!

well,
what you need is not some one to teach you,
but you rather just start a datacenter
rent some industrial land, like 100sq ft should do for starting off...
buy 1 heavy duty 8 core server and cram up about 2 TB of ram
mount it on 10mb/s up and down connection
then start selling hosting
in this way it will be much easier for you to start off...
from the money you make,develop your datacenter...
initially, dont keep 24/7 monitoring...
get some staff as you get the funds.
Do you seriously believe this? If so, you are lost.
"start a datacenter"?! LOL

8 core, 2TB ram, & 10MBPS Link? again LOL

Cohen Ilan (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/member.php?u=169343), take it slow.

virat u didnt answer even one of my questions ur offer is just to create more problems.

siforek thanks for ur post , i've done my research and all statics , and tought to invest now, i dont think what have i done wrong cause if i think negative then this buisness only can go bad, at the moment i think positive i have 1k to invest, and from 50 costumers i know 10-20 want to pay for re - design their site, at the moment the important thing for me is to get a designer to work for the company by contract and not by money, with future income and precents.

with 1k budget maybe i can move it to better server , or even to buy my own second hand server ?
as i said im in the wrost stage the company ever been, from here i can only go up, i would like to hear more solutions and offers, from u and others

i invested few times in my life in things that were in bad shape and rehabilitate it, this is what i want to do here, im looking for first steps to make , what have u done if u were in this situation?

i think making it 4 language and adding CC payment are good things what next stage...?

Credit card payment is a must IMO. It's not all that difficult either. Of course you need to be positive, but just know that 50 customers doesn't justify buying a server.

It's much more cost/quality effective to rent servers until you grow quite a bit. I don't suggest buying a server for a wile, your $1000 can go so much further by renting.

If you're looking for a "better" server than I would even suggest trying a VPS. I started with one.

what IMO means?
and if u can offer me some kind of VPS for my budget and costumers...

should i get server admin to make me some rebuilatation to the server? what more can u offer me to learn...

if u got any .txt about this subject i would like to read.

Are the customers dedicated server customers or shared/resellers/VPS customers ? That would determine your course of action. It really be best if you have full control of the business then you can make drastic changes as and when you think fit.

If your customers are dedicated server customers, you probably cannot move them elsewhere because that will upset quite a lot of customers. Keep the existing customers where they are. If you cannot afford to offer more dedicated servers then don't. If you can, find a more respectable web host which you can work with and resell the new customers in the new datacenter. Offer your existing customers the option to 'upgrade' to the new place and if what you offer merits the change, I am sure they may take up your offer. If you cannot sustain the dedicated server business then do not offer anymore.

If you offer shared/reseller and VPS plans, being a new owner, you can look at other datacenter which can offer you a better deal with better performance to host your sites. At the moment, look at your customers usage in terms of CPU and bandwidth then determine if you need an upgraded hardware, maintain status quo or downgrade to match their needs. You could offer existing customers the same price plan and then for new customers, newer and higher price plans with maybe slightly different in specs so as to be able to sustain your new business.

Make sure you go through the numbers before you embark on anything drastic. Also be sure to communicate with your customers and seek their consent. I am sure that customers will appreciate being in the loop about happenings in your business as it would effect them.

IMO = In My Opinion. The other variant is IMHO = In My Honest Opinion .

Well, with Dedicated Server or VPS, you will need to know how to manage your servers or VPS and that means knowing at least some shell commands.

First thanks for the fully explained answer,

ill give u more information that it be much easier :
its a vServer
20GB Festplatte
150GB Traffic incl
ot runs debian
the server cost 89,70 euro and we have it until August

all costumers are rent the webspace, no CPU usage they dont use Any kind of DB
there was only one active webpage in the past that closed.
the traffic is : 7,8645 GB
we share the server with 12 different people.

most users use their space as a FTP backup altough they would like to have more options.

I get Domains .de 8E par year
I get Domains .eu 15E par year
I get Domains .com/net/org 12E par year

We pay 564 Eu for 47 domains rented to costumers , we dont see any profits from domains cause he sold it with hosting space together.

I got email server "postfix" ppl can send emails as big as 10MB , SMTP spam proof.

My first problem is how do i rebuild the packages that ill see profits and offer more things.

this is all server information if u can help me in making 3 seperate packages i would be glade cause it would be a good start.

You need a partner who has allot of experience in the hosting industry to lead you to the right path. You can make it right buy making the right decisions.

Looking back to the thread you say "the traffic is : 7,8645 GB" do you mean MB or GB? If its GB then your going to have to cough up some big money.

traffic is : 7,8645 MB , sorry for "little" mistake.

as i said before i gave all server information i would thank a lot of u can offer how to rebuild
and for start o help me re think how can i build 3 different package and what can i offer with all the information i gave, thanks a lot

Im willing to guide you to the right path and give you more info on what you need. If you have MSN or Yahoo or Aim them send it me.

I glade to hear that, my msn messanger is : coby8@012.net.il

Ilan
Web hosting have many entry barriers, but you can sort all of them if you get first hand advice and some technnical support. Learn by your self can be very expensive, mistakes mean money at the end of the day.

I think you have to focus, search for a hosting partner who can provide you with managed hosting services (at least at the begining) and focus to web development witch is the best bussines you have on hand (with better income), find an skilled developer and pay in him/her in a per proyect basis.

I own a hosting company and i have to say that is very hard to grow if you don´t have experience and funding capital right from the start. Most of the people that have succesful hosting bussines here, start many years ago, making experience from the very early stages of the hosting industrie. Right now my company is very stable but i don´t think i could start from scrach today without a huge investment like in the past years. A way to solve that is to find a provider you can trust to take advantage from allready in place networking and server infrastructure (and skilled support)

Don´t give up, but find help right now!

Sincerely
Roy A. Zderich