Hello,
With the recent problems you have been reading about the cPanel License we apoglize for any trouble or downtime this has caused to yourself and your clients. We made a mistake everyone makes mistakes every now and then. We did our best to get payment to them as requested (credit card was one option which they refused to accept).. The Paradise Designs Staff would like to make to apoglize to any customer as well to PowerSurge for putting them though the hell we put them though. PowerSurge will be receiving the payment very shortly.. We apoglize for the trouble this has caused and would like to make an Apology to everyone.


:beer: Cheers

Timmy,

We will be keeping everyone abreast of this situation, to be sure.
If anyone has any questions about what this is regarding, the monolithic thread is available here:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57723&perpage=15&pagenumber=19

Currently Powersurge has not seen a red cent of Timmy's overdue balance, which has been as such for nearly 40 days.

We'll keep you informed, to say the least.

It's about time that you did.

Tim,

I get the feeling when reading your apology that you have seen the positive comments that Frank @ NodeHosting has received in his recent thread and you may think that you are entitled to the same. If so, please remember that from reading that thread, it seems that Frank sorted out all issues with his disgruntled customer before posting the apology and mathewWhite actually commented in there with pretty positive comments and everything seems fine now.

Do you see my point?

Its all very well you publicly apologising but until people see some action (or some debts paid as the case may be) then your name is still going to be pretty muddy around this forum. This apology is not going start rebuilding your rep on this forum, only a show of action will maybe begin to show people that you mean what you say.

Just for the record, the money you owed us has appeared in our account this morning but there seem to be several more and considerably larger debts that you need to address before anyone will give you the time of day here again.

As I said, words are one thing, action is another... don't continue this anymore and do the right thing.

Well I asked Tim at least 3-4 times for my refund for a cpanel license I did not use as he and my dedicated provider got together and screwed me over when cpanel went down.

I got CPanel through tim when serverhost lost their Parner NOC status, then got a cpanel license from tim as serverhost did not fix their issue in time. Guess what? Tim contacted serverhost and then started providing cpanel - I had to pay Tim AND serverhost for my license that had been down for over a day - serverhost would not refund my monthly fee and tim agreed to refund the $75.00 I paid him, although I think serverhost also paid him too for the same license.

Tim, you promised my refund, I gave up asking and told you to credit the $75 towards another server with you- well I don't want that server from your company and I do want my $75.00 back - Please email me to let me know when I will recieve that refund or I will have to contact MasterCard to recover it - Thanks.

Originally posted by Jim_UK
Tim,

I get the feeling when reading your apology that you have seen the positive comments that Frank @ NodeHosting has received in his recent thread and you may think that you are entitled to the same. If so, please remember that from reading that thread, it seems that Frank sorted out all issues with his disgruntled customer before posting the apology and mathewWhite actually commented in there with pretty positive comments and everything seems fine now.

Do you see my point?

Its all very well you publicly apologising but until people see some action (or some debts paid as the case may be) then your name is still going to be pretty muddy around this forum. This apology is not going start rebuilding your rep on this forum, only a show of action will maybe begin to show people that you mean what you say.

Just for the record, the money you owed us has appeared in our account this morning but there seem to be several more and considerably larger debts that you need to address before anyone will give you the time of day here again.

As I said, words are one thing, action is another... don't continue this anymore and do the right thing. Very Very well put!

Sorry mods can you make this a new thread please... I don't want it to get mixed up with other peoples :D

The one above i_amdaves

I regret having to post here, I got tired of trying to contact him regarding this refund.. seems the only way is to post on WHT

Stop sucking up and give everyone's money back. If you don't have it, tough luck - should have never taken it.

"I regret having to post here, I got tired of trying to contact him regarding this refund.. seems the only way is to post on WHT"

He's afraid of WHT, that's why he only pays attention here.

I would like to just add that i was refunded. I asked tim to send me a refund asap. And he had no problem doing so.

Thanks Tim

Yea still have not seen any thing hit my bank yet Timmy.. You said you sent it so we will see.

Most apologies are sincere because they usually say something like "there was no excuse for what we did..."

Tim, please don't say "everyone makes mistakes" as if there is only one class of mistake. There are degree of seriousness, and if you try to "excuse" yourself because you think you can just group your serioues mistake with ordinary small mistakes, you have not really apologised.

Peter

Anyone here accept his apolgy? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by phatronic
Anyone here accept his apolgy? :rolleyes:


Nothing in Timmy's post will be taken at face value until payment is received. Timmy has not made a true effort to resolve this, since early June when his licensing payments were due. He has collected payments from his customers for the service he resold through us, and is attempting to drown this entire issue in a wave of empty threads. We'll continue to voice our concern about Timmy's business practices until this is resolved completely.

If you would like any more detail, don't hesitate to browse through the 'TimPD thread that will live in infamy'

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57723

Published and available at your nearest Barnes & Noble? I'd imagine sooner than later. Timmy, you aren't up for any of the royalties on that- at least not until you settle your outstanding balance.
:D

We're standing by.

I know the whole story / dispute, and i`m sure there`s no one to accept his apology, unless some guy was told to, or he himself.. lol

Originally posted by Jim_UK

I get the feeling when reading your apology that you have seen the positive comments that Frank @ NodeHosting has received in his recent thread and you may think that you are entitled to the same.


ya know when i saw Tim's name next to the subject of the thread.... i thought the exact same thing.

Hello,
We posted this as we're deeply sorry for all the trouble we put our clients though. If you haven't received a refund please e-mail me and I will glady be sure to get a refund processed. For who refunds that was processed and you haven't received yet I will get ahold of the merchant today and find out what is going on there.

No hard feelings Tim. Take it easy.

BTW Tim refunded the fees within 48 hours of cancellation.

Originally posted by timechange

BTW Tim refunded the fees within 48 hours of cancellation.

WOOHOO good job Tim :)

Tim, it shouldn't be the customers responsibility to have to take the initiative to have to email you for a refund. If you kept any books at all, you wouldn't have to request anyone email you anything

I ask for an e-mail that way we can do it alot faster. To the person who didn't get a refund you requested that credit to be on your account so therefore, we didn't refund you upon Your request. However, we will process it if you e-mail us for confirmation with the information that I send you in a PM as your order is completely out of our billing system.

Attention Timmy:

The following is not resolved:

...........................................
The Paradise Designs Staff would like to make to apoglize to any customer as well to PowerSurge for putting them though the hell we put them though. PowerSurge will be receiving the payment very shortly.. We apoglize for the trouble this has caused and would like to make an Apology to everyone.
...........................................

Payment has not been received, not a single cent of it.
Hopefully we will be receiving payment soon, so I can inform this community of you resolving this, even if it is pathetically late.

Standing by.
(not for a babbling phone call, for an actual payment)

Thanks sir.

However, we will process it if you e-mail us for confirmation with the information that I send you in a PM as your order is completely out of our billing system.Just curious, what kind of POS billing system would ever let a transaction be "completely out"?? I find that scarey to say the least, considering you're supposed to retain financial transactions for, what, three years I think it is for telecommunications? 7 years for some types of transactions.

Billing System Meaning our Billing SYSTEM. The transaction will remain in our Merchant Account but it isn't located in our Billing System. Do you know what that is?? I mean come on.

I know billing systems inside out. I also know that I would *never* allow my merchant provider to be my sole source of accounting details, that's suicide. Yer nuts kid.

I'm afraid we don't. We have a much better setup then that. If we didn't we would have alot of trouble....

Originally posted by TimPD
If we didn't we would have alot of trouble....

Guess you need a reality check. You ARE in deep trouble.

Tim, you better relax with the attitude.

Why do you keep saying PD staff and we? You're one boy team.

Originally posted by Shyne
Tim, you better relax with the attitude.

Why do you keep saying PD staff and we? You're one boy team.

gee and i thought he had a couple of people working for him.

Originally posted by TimPD
I'm afraid we don't. We have a much better setup then that. If we didn't we would have alot of trouble....

What you're saying here doesn't jibe at all. First its "out of your system" and "in your merchant account" and now you don't rely on your merchant account provider for the records but you do have "a much better set up".

You may need to check this much better set up. It seems to have a few holes that could cost you some business.

And just another question that raised a red flag. You said:
"I ask for an e-mail that way we can do it alot faster." Just curious: what does an e-mail do that increases the speed at which you can do a credit card refund? I've done quite a few in my day, and it takes about 15-30 seconds.

Of course, that assumes you've kept proper records.

Some might perceive your e-mail requirement as a method of delaying the refund process, or giving you an excuse ("we never got the e-mail"), or making it so that the requestor might not follow through.

I'm just trying to understand your process and help you with my past experience handling these transactions, if I can.

Originally posted by Shyne
Why do you keep saying PD staff and we? You're one boy team.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe the staff he is referring to has four legs and a flea collar. :D

Originally posted by OKIHost


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe the staff he is referring to has four legs and a flea collar. :D What's wrong with that? Absolutely Nothing! My bird directs the tech support department. ;)

We're NOT a one team company. We do have staff. We don't appreciate you saying we're a one guy company when you don't know enough about our company to say a thing.

Oh, boy...the infamous 'mods, I think it's time to close this thread' should be coming along any minute now...

Maybe the 4 legged support tech can send a PM to Chicken to make sure this doesn't go any farther...

Originally posted by TimPD
We're NOT a one team company. We do have staff. We don't appreciate you saying we're a one guy company when you don't know enough about our company to say a thing.

So, where's your company registered? I would like to check that before doing any business with you (or your company).

Who is your legal representative? I would like to have contract on paper and signed from both parties.

Originally posted by TimPD
We're NOT a one team company. We do have staff. We don't appreciate you saying we're a one guy company when you don't know enough about our company to say a thing.


Timmy, I'm not buying this and it's doubtful that anyone else will on the entire internet. Your calls to our company have been laced with screaming infants (or sisters?) in the background. Do they count as part of the Paradise Designs Corporate Staff? If so, Powersurge is counting all of our family members back home and abroad, henceforth bringing our army of human staffers to 1,093.

You can reach my great aunt Velma during our weeknight graveyard shifts- her specialty is servlet programming.

Timmy- it's easy to conjure up the guise that you are attempting. It's been done by hundreds (thousands?) of webhosting businesses in the past, and it will continue to be. Unfortunately, you just aren't very adept at making any of it sound like reality.

BTW, we still haven't received payment.
We're standing by.




:cool:

To me im just shocked how everyone is handling this matter. To me there are contracts, court systems and lawyers, and all is needed here

WHT or any other forum is not a court. Business should be handled in a business way and not on a public forum .

Nothing against anyone but if I had a major problem like this I would have a lawyer handle the issue.

Originally posted by JBIZ718
To me im just shocked how everyone is handling this matter. To me there are contracts, court systems and lawyers, and all is needed here

WHT or any other forum is not a court. Business should be handled in a business way and not on a public forum .

Nothing against anyone but if I had a major problem like this I would have a lawyer handle the issue.


Completely agreed.

And, behind the scenes, everything you have mentioned has already been set into motion. We are attempting to keep everyone informed of this, to prevent future insanity as other businesses and individuals may be targetted for a costly scam by Timmy & Co.

I am sure Timmy will bring this to a close soon- it's the right thing to do.

Back On Topic.. For those who have e-mailed me your refund will be processed within 2-3 Hours.

Originally posted by isildur



Completely agreed.

And, behind the scenes, everything you have mentioned has already been set into motion. We are attempting to keep everyone informed of this, to prevent future insanity as other businesses and individuals may be targetted for a costly scam by Timmy & Co.

I am sure Timmy will bring this to a close soon- it's the right thing to do.

I completely agree with JBiz too, but one thing I don't understand is how you also do, but do the opposite of that in this public forum? I've personally have never seen a company say how many days, and repeat every day in an online forum that payment has not been received. Not to mention the background sounds of phone calls etc.. to try and discredit him even more.
Seems to me your partially out to get your money, and fully out to get Tim.(and he's your customer!) Once you receive payment everything will be back to normal for you, but how would any customer want to stay with you knowing you would openly treat them like this?
Very unprofessional to say the least.

I can agree why you're mad, but if you still haven't received payment, Tim is the only person that can get you that. Not us.

OT: What is wrong with accepting a credit card, or faster type of payment? I have no idea about this but, did you consider he's putting it on credit with a credit card company? That doesn't work to well with business or personal checks.

Originally posted by TimPD
Back On Topic.. For those who have e-mailed me your refund will be processed within 2-3 Hours.

Timmy, Powersurge is part of the "Topic", that you started.
Are we going to receive our payment?

Or did we just get the apology consolation prize instead?
The consolation prize is unacceptable, if so.

Standing by.

Originally posted by JBIZ718
To me im just shocked how everyone is handling this matter. To me there are contracts, court systems and lawyers, and all is needed here

WHT or any other forum is not a court. Business should be handled in a business way and not on a public forum .

Nothing against anyone but if I had a major problem like this I would have a lawyer handle the issue.

How can you handle a business which is NOT a business. It is not registered at all and the "CEO" is minor?

Law inforcement? Parents?

What can a lawyer do in this case? :confused:

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com


I completely agree with JBiz too, but one thing I don't understand is how you also do, but do the opposite of that in this public forum? I've personally have never seen a company say how many days, and repeat every day in an online forum that payment has not been received. Not to mention the background sounds of phone calls etc.. to try and discredit him even more.
Seems to me your partially out to get your money, and fully out to get Tim.(and he's your customer!) Once you receive payment everything will be back to normal for you, but how would any customer want to stay with you knowing you would openly treat them like this?
Very unprofessional to say the least.

I can agree why you're mad, but if you still haven't received payment, Tim is the only person that can get you that. Not us.

OT: What is wrong with accepting a credit card, or faster type of payment? I have no idea about this but, did you consider he's putting it on credit with a credit card company? That doesn't work to well with business or personal checks.


Timmy is hardly a customer of ours, or ever will be again.

Timmy has promised credit card payments numerous times, but alas the few hundred dollar limits pale in comparison to the maximum amount owed. In addition he has threatened chargebacks on numerous occasions. We have definitely entertained this option only to be denied.

There are many who have encouraged updates on this issue, which is the only reason why it continues. I agree this has got to stop, regardless.

It appears we'll leave this in the various collections agencies that have been contacted, and our law firm here in Waterloo as well. In addition Darkorb will more than likely be pursuing a collections claim with Timmy in conjunction with this, unless this is resolved quickly.

I will grind this to a halt from our end, at least publicly, in this particular venue. It needs to be done.

Best regards.

Originally posted by TimPD
I ask for an e-mail that way we can do it alot faster. To the person who didn't get a refund you requested that credit to be on your account so therefore, we didn't refund you upon Your request. However, we will process it if you e-mail us for confirmation with the information that I send you in a PM as your order is completely out of our billing system.

After 3 weeks tim I got sick of asking (As posted) and thought oh well i need another server - I'll get them to deduct the $75 from that, decided against that after finding things out from this board - Now I know different than to do business with you - I want my money back - And you should have records of the transaction (But I emailed you anyway, you can work the date out, and soon - refund within 48 hours or I'll get those forms from the bankl)

Thanks

Hello,
Steve your refund was processed. For the rest we're in the process of doing the rest.

Originally posted by TimPD
Back On Topic.. For those who have e-mailed me your refund will be processed within 2-3 Hours. It will be processed by a staff member in the sales department, right?

No Refunds, Are handled by me personally. I then alert the Billing Department.

I have nothing to pick with you MR PD. I have not used any of your services directly but i was effected by the cpanel prob!

When you Alert the Billing department do you just log on to your billing email address?

Or do you actually forward it to your billing email then login!

Just a teaser! :D

Kind regards

Where are these departments located?

So the billing department, along with all your other departments, basically is just you.

Originally posted by Choppy
Or do you actually forward it to your billing email then login!

no, no, no - he just sends it to billing@localhost :D

Just kidding :D

Originally posted by Atlonim


How can you handle a business which is NOT a business. It is not registered at all and the "CEO" is minor?

Law inforcement? Parents?

What can a lawyer do in this case? :confused: Call the AOL Police.

Originally posted by iamdave
Call the AOL Police.

ya got to love Dave's posts... they are always comedy. :)

I'm sorry, I'm really trying to keep out of this...but that billing department thing has me ROFL...

People, Stop trying to think you know everything about our company. You know nothing. We do have Departments and more then one and more then one staff. thank you. My ole line " Please Close This Thread Mods"

Originally posted by lightnin
I'm sorry, I'm really trying to keep out of this...but that billing department thing has me ROFL... What's wrong with having multiple departments all run by one person? Absolutely nothing whatsoever.

Originally posted by TimPD
People, Stop trying to think you know everything about our company. You know nothing. We do have Departments and more then one and more then one staff. thank you. My ole line " Please Close This Thread Mods" Tim, why don't you just put the "Moderators please close this thread," in your title or in your signature?

Originally posted by iamdave
What's wrong with having multiple departments all run by one person? Absolutely nothing whatsoever.

I'll have to forward that over to my question answering department. They'll have the posting department get back to you with an answer.

Originally posted by iamdave
It will be processed by a staff member in the sales department, right?

Were sorry the billing department had to go outside to use the bathroom so all refunds will be personally handled by myself.

Back on subject. Please let me know if someone didn't get a confirmation that the refund was processed.

Originally posted by OKIHost


Were sorry the billing department had to go outside to use the bathroom so all refunds will be personally handled by myself. LOL

Originally posted by TimPD
Back on subject. Please let me know if someone didn't get a confirmation that the refund was processed.

You said i did, But i never got an email sying so.. Would you be so nice to send one my way..

lol i cant believe i missed out on this thread, please leave some space for me :bawling: :bawling:

Originally posted by edude
lol i cant believe i missed out on this thread, please leave some space for me :bawling: :bawling: Ahh, you big baby.

Baby :eek:

Brad, Billing just send you an email.

You mean:

Brad, TimPD just sent you an email.

:eek: :eek:

:eek:

TimPD .. i'd pay powersurge after you have paid all your clients back ..

Stop pissing about mate ... the hole is only gonna get deeper ... and the sh-t is gonna start to pile in ontop of you faster and faster ... and your rep will go down the hole with you

Thats about as straight forward is it gets :eek:

Originally posted by TimPD
Brad, Billing just send you an email. Tim, why can't you say that you just sent him an email? I mean it is 7:20 PST, I think it is 10:20 where you are, how many people can you have working for you, on not one but two shifts. I can understand you haveing one, MAYBE two employees, but having employees there till after 10:20, I doubt it.

How much does he owe powersurge?

edude, are you like reading my mind? During the time I posted my post you posted a post, about the same exact thing... Can you tell me my fortune?

Originally posted by TimPD
Brad, Billing just send you an email.

Of course, Brad, you're probably not gonna want to reply right away, as it's time for Billing's nightly walk. He was scratching at the door a little while ago...

We have staff that works 24-7 around the clock helping our customers.

i think thats private .. but i would imagen quite abit :rolleyes:

sorry i just laughing my ass of here when i saw this in timPD sig

"Moderators, Please Close This Thread"


:D

Originally posted by TimPD
We have staff that works 24-7 around the clock helping our customers. Tim, you must have a HUGE amount of customers, to have 24/7 employees. I doubt you have enough clients to be able to have this. PLEASE tell us your secret, so we can capitalize on it, and be able to have 24/7 staff.

lol iamdave, you just have some bad fortune :stickout

Ask Tim for some good fortune, im sure he has loads to lend out to you.

Originally posted by utadmin
sorry i just laughing my ass of here when i saw this in timPD sig

"Moderators, Please Close This Thread"


:D I didn't notice that, I guess he took my advice seriously... I guess it will save him from typing that in every other day.

Sorry, We don't disclose the number of customers that we have. IAMDAVE what is your Hosting URL? Send it to me in a PM. Plz.

Originally posted by iamdave
Tim, you must have a HUGE amount of customers, to have 24/7 employees. I doubt you have enough clients to be able to have this. PLEASE tell us your secret, so we can capitalize on it, and be able to have 24/7 staff.

Maybe he outsources to Bobcares or something. They do 24/7 staffing for cheap. I'm not trying to defend him or anything, I'm just saying it's possible.

Originally posted by TimPD
Sorry, We don't disclose the number of customers that we have. IAMDAVE what is your Hosting URL? Send it to me in a PM. Plz. http://www.*****.com , just kidding.

No, Not bobcares.com.

then who :confused:

Tim, I didn't want you to discuss the number of customers you have nor disclose the number of employees you "employ," I was merely stating my opinion and thoughts, that it is very hard to keep employees in house 24/7. And it is. I was saying that you would have to have an enormous amount of clients to be able to have 24/7 staff, pay for servers, pay PowerSurge(nevermind), and buy your Jaguar...

Don't have the Jaguar yet ;)..

If you did, the bank probably would have already repossessed it, leaving poor Billing no tires to pee on...

Originally posted by TimPD
Don't have the Jaguar yet ;).. I didn't say you have yet, I said it is almost impossible for you to have enough money to buy one, and pay a monthly payment of at least $600.

Everyone please be patient tomorrow as our support team is going in for there monthly flea dip tomorrow and billing with be out of the office to get dewormed, Thank PD team graciously thanks you for your patience.

flea dip ... must be monkeys .....

You hired AOL support team ?? :eek:

Originally posted by utadmin
flea dip ... must be monkeys .....

You hired AOL support team ?? :eek: There is an idea.

Tim, I told you before. Your family does NOT count as your admins. Tell you parents to stop playing with the servers.

:eek:

Shouldn't it be other way round .. sorry just had to say that .. i'm sure Tim is a good admin ( well i'm not but .. well hey ) :cartman:

Enough with the games.

I thought it was bad that this made it a "hot" thread, now to see people running around with "TimPD owes me money" in thier sigs, now it has gotten out of hand.

I knew someone recently that felt the way he does (hmmmm) about having to figure out that he fu**ed up. WHOLE different scenario, but same feeling I am sure.

I am sure he owes people money, and I HOPE that he is telling the truth that he is refunding money, I say everyone that he owes, email the "billing" department, give 24 hours to have him come clean on it, and if he has not refunded the money in that time from now (hell, if he don't I will have a beef with him making a mockery of a apology that I really felt was necessary) the blast him as hard as you want on this forum.

Just a though, give him a chance, and if he does not do what he says he is going to do, then go after him, but give the guy a chance to do what he says he is going to do this time.

"Can't we all just get along?" - Sure that dude didn't feel good either....

I guess using bobcares counts as your own hosting staff? :P

he said he doesn't use bobcares :confused:

Thats what he said, but how do we know?

BTW utadmin, are you glued to this thread or something? :confused: :confused:

no ... i've got multiple windows open :D

Originally posted by TimPD
Enough with the games. Why don't you just clear it all up, then?

This is really cool! You can refresh or even type a response in here, and you will see two more replies each time....

WoW!! Someone has found the waders.....

yeh .. the 30 second reply thing is annoying me :bawling:

I have cleared it up. We have staff members. No, I'm afraid what you said "our parents" run this copmany. I'm afraid you're wrong. I fully recommend you quit bashing another company you know nothing about or saying what you wish if you know it isn't facts. Get a Life and Grow Up.. You have better things to do then sit here posting to this thread and monitoring it every 5 minutes.. IT is nonsense. This thread was an apoglogy to start with now it has turned into a 7 page "we don't have no staff" thing. If you don't think we have staff fine think what you want cause we know who we hired and what they do. If you run a business quit sitting here bashing another web host and do your job at your Hosting Company and quit worrying about our staff. I mean come on guys lets quit being rude to each other and do this right.

Timmy,

.........................................

TimPD
Web Hosting Expert

I mean come on guys lets quit being rude to each other and do this right
.........................................

That would include paying a 40-day old delinquent account balance to Powersurge.

Wouldn't it? Just curious.
Keep up the impeccable reasoning, it's getting you somewhere.
:rolleyes:

Of Course :).

pay powersurge and the games will end :mad:

The games will end when Timmy starts realizing he's not smart enough to put one over on everyone...

Amen to that... I mean... Timmy doesn't have anywhere near the amount of customers to pay for a staff... 24/7 @ decent pay rate 7 days a week easily looking @ 5-8,000 a month and thats on the cheap end.

But yet he can't even pay the $2000.00+ that he owes powersurge.

TimPD - Seriously your in a hot pot. It looks like you need money and also from what i have heard *ONLY* it seems that you have not even reached puberty!

Im not going to send you a PM / Email about this because there is no point!

"Can i buy your company from you?"

ANd umm you get to keep your staff too!

This is serious if you are interested im sure you contact me!

Kind regards Woof Woof to your staff! J/K :D

Originally posted by DanielP
Amen to that... I mean... Timmy doesn't have anywhere near the amount of customers to pay for a staff... 24/7 @ decent pay rate 7 days a week easily looking @ 5-8,000 a month and thats on the cheap end.

But yet he can't even pay the $2000.00+ that he owes powersurge. That's basically always trying to point out Timmy. If you have so many paying clients, to where you can afford to buy a Jaguar and have 24/7 on site staff, then I could only come to the assumption that you can afford to pay PowerSurge the money that you owe them. The guys from PowerSurge asked for a money order to be FedEx-ed, and yet you keep saying that you tried to pay by Credit Card, and they refused. I would refuse your payment and ask you to send me a money order through FedEx, if you hadn't payed your bill in over 40 days too...

Somebody please shoot me.

I just spent 2 hours reading through every Paradise-Designs thread :eek2:

Originally posted by NickMahon
Somebody please shoot me.

I just spent 2 hours reading through every Paradise-Designs thread :eek2:


your a speed reader eh? only 2 hours...

wow i feel sorry for ya....

We should have like T-shirts, or something,...I read the Timmy threads on WHT... :D

Tshirts - for a charitable event - maybe we can make it so the money raised goes to people that dont get refunds :)

The "I survived Timmy-athon". We'll stream it live. ;)

The sad part is this thread is only 8 or 9 pages, check out the others, one is 19+ now!

Someone should whip something up in Photoshop and open up a Cafe Press account. I'd buy an "I survived Timmy's lameness" t-shirt.

We should probably keep this thread on topic for the sake of those that have been bent over by timmy ( said in the southpark sence ).

I want to T-Shirt to say on the back:

Computer Monitor: $120
Mouse: $10
Keyboard: $15

2.5 hours of reading while at work: Priceless

Timmy-thon 2002!

I was thinking we should suggest that they open a Paradise Design fourm here on WHT. Give Tim his own area to field customer and vendor complaints, they could call it the "Mods please close this thread forum".:D

Originally posted by Monte
I was thinking we should suggest that they open a Paradise Design fourm here on WHT. Give Tim his own area to field customer and vendor complaints, they could call it the "Mods please close this thread forum".:D

:laugh: :laugh:

Originally posted by Haze
We should probably keep this thread on topic for the sake of those that have been bent over by timmy ( said in the southpark sence ).

This file came from Billing... :D

For any of you that have actually been privileged enough to see an actual Timmy photo, you probably are busting a gut with how similar that graphic is to our beloved Paradise Designs CEO.

Cosmic twins, to say the least.

That's right, I'm still awake optimistic that perhaps Timmy is driving up from Kentucky with the money order.

Nothing but love from Iowa.

Bah! Billing's asleep in the corner chewing on a steak bone. That must have come from the legal department.

Originally posted by Monte
I was thinking we should suggest that they open a Paradise Design fourm here on WHT. Give Tim his own area to field customer and vendor complaints, they could call it the "Mods please close this thread forum".:D That was my idea.

So tell us who is your staff?

If you would have said that you are one man team, that would be enough. There is nothing bad about being one man team. People respect honesty. What you did is lied to us that you have a staff cause you DO NOT have one.

To make facts worse powersurge is still waiting for the money.

Ok, well the last one was 15 pages, many posts just comments. I had a feeling this one should have been locked up as soon as I saw it (there were only a few posts at that time).

As with last time, if you have a specific issue, please start a thread and let's have it track towards resolution without all the extra commentary...