http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130292/article.html

I understand the reasoning behind rejecting this new extension. But i think in the bigger picture it would be easier to filter allot of porn and undesirable content away from children.

Opinions?

I agree with you, it would very well allow us to keep underage people away from it. I don't get why they would not pass it, then again I have to say ICANN is already screwed in the head after the RF incident.

This would no effect whatsoever in facilitating the filtering of porn.

I agree with xhackr, it wouldn't help with the filtering of porn at all. It would enable national governments to put pressure on their ISP's to stop .xxx content being delivered but crucially you can't force adult companies to move from .com to .xxx. In America that would be against first amendment rights.

This issue has raised some interesting questions though about how sTLD's get allocated. What is the process and criteria? ICANN were looking for asssurances of success for .xxx that they have never asked of other proposed sTLD's (due to the political pressure surrounding this issue).

...but crucially you can't force adult companies to move from .com to .xxx.
Exactly - this was the single greatest reason for my thought that it would not assist in filtering adult content.

I do agree with ICANN as soon as children will find out about this xxx as a porn extension it will be special for them a lot easy to get those xrate websites...

Yea, but ICANN could have find out a solution for that, this is the third time it has been declined.

Yea, but ICANN could have find out a solution for that, this is the third time it has been declined.
What solution would you recommend?

I am disapointed actually, we allready (in the US) have zoning laws where adult bars (ie strip clubs and other types of sex shops) cannot be in certain areas, like 500 yards from a school or within home zoned sectors of a town. the internet can be divided like that too. Parental controls would be easily set to block xxx domains and pornographic sites found on .com domains could be heavily fined. Do you want every type of adult store on every street corner? Probably not so why is it ok on the internet?

What solution would you recommend?

They need to find way out from the legal and philosophical Problems by replacing bigoted fundamental religious idiots and political interference. :cool:

I agree with xhackr, it wouldn't help with the filtering of porn at all. It would enable national governments to put pressure on their ISP's to stop .xxx content being delivered but crucially you can't force adult companies to move from .com to .xxx. In America that would be against first amendment rights.

This issue has raised some interesting questions though about how sTLD's get allocated. What is the process and criteria? ICANN were looking for asssurances of success for .xxx that they have never asked of other proposed sTLD's (due to the political pressure surrounding this issue).

I am just curious. Why do you think this would violate the 1st amendment?

There wouldn't be a block on it just a naming that says you must use .xxx as your extension if they were to force it. TV, Radio etc.. already force you adult entertainment to specific channels why couldn't they do that with the Internet again?

Specifically I am referring to how it would violate the 1st amendment.

They need to find way out from the legal and philosophical Problems by replacing bigoted fundamental religious idiots and political interference. :cool:And if you could figure out a successful solution to that problem, you might be the next U.S. President... ;)

They need to find way out from the legal and philosophical Problems by replacing bigoted fundamental religious idiots and political interference. :cool:
You were offered a chance to provide a solution – instead you made another complaint. Are you just another mouth that cries all the problems without any solutions? If not, what solution do you propose?

You were offered a chance to provide a solution – instead you made another complaint. Are you just another mouth that cries all the problems without any solutions? If not, what solution do you propose?Quite frankly, this is a hot political potato with ICANN. Lot's of opposing forces from the .xxx registry cheerleaders to the religious right.

If you were an overbloated bureaucracy, like ICANN, the safest decision is just to keep on with the status quo. Therefore, it was inevitable that ICANN would just deny this controversial .xxx TLD. But, if you read up on the sweet deal that the proponents of the .aero TLD received, you might start to understand how "backroom" ICANN really is.

Just my opinion...

But, if you read up on the sweet deal that the proponents of the .aero TLD received, you might start to understand how "backroom" ICANN really is.


As you are so interested in answering for others, I'll ask a question just for you - tell me what I said to make you claim that I have not begun to understand what ICANN really is. Please feel free to be detailed in your answer.

As you are so interested in answering for others, I'll ask a question just for you - tell me what I said to make you claim that I have not begun to understand what ICANN really is. Please feel free to be detailed in your answer.Chill, my friend... I am certainly NOT answering for any one BUT myself. In addition, I am not saying anything negative about you.

And all I'm saying is that it is a complicated and POLITICAL decision that was probably made in the quiet halls and rooms of that hotel in Lisbon - NOT the forums and discussions that ICANN presented to the general public.

And if you could figure out a successful solution to that problem, you might be the next U.S. President... ;)
No he would be the next Queen from Holland ;)

when kids know that xxx is porn they will findout soon the workaround the parents block to these zones.
With the extension xxx it will be so much easy to find porn on the net and that is why I agree.

when kids know that xxx is porn they will findout soon the workaround the parents block to these zones.
With the extension xxx it will be so much easy to find porn on the net and that is why I agree.
This is one of countless ways this fails as a process to prevent children in accessing adult material. Instead of expecting the government and private organizations to play mommy and daddy, I’ve got an apparently novel idea for many, how about the parents take on the responsibility of being parents. When we stop looking for easy fixes and blaming others for our own failures, maybe we can begin course that stops setting-up our children for failure.

yeah//there is a lil problem... 1)Yeah, filtering more easily yeah..your right BUT 2) lil kids under 18 year will find porn more easily..and that's not the meaning if they're not 18... :rolleyes:

i would just let it like it was..no touches..

I'm all for the decision to NOT establish an adult-only zone in TLDing. If people really want to protect their children, keep them in the zoo ... I mean playroom. In other words, instead of creating a .xxx, go with a .kid (like the .us) and confine the minors there. Don't let them ruin the party. We need sex and drugs and rock and roll. :D

My sentiments go against this idea. No matter what grown ups will do, children will definitely look for and can gain access to porn if we would just leave them alone using the net. The best way to minimized their access to porn, is to gradually monitor them.

A .kids would have made much more sense.

Instead of trying to make the whole world (=internet) kid safe, create an actual kid safe playground = .kids. Even with all adult content on .xxx, there still would be enough non-adult content on the web that isn't quite recommended for kids.

Good decision by ICANN

@Erich I do agree with you!
Its for kids and their parents very difficult to see trough this jungle and to protects our kids and in my case also my grand children.
A while ago I worked as a journalist on a case with pedophiles acting like children trough lots of children message boards.
If such an extension would exist with lets say a special "kids key" than the internet would be a little children saver place.
I am also for a special MSN live messenger only for kids.

It would be an easy way for kids to find porn sites as well...

I agree with the vote

I say amend the constitution and force all porn sites to .xxx.

Just when I thought of changing my sig...

I agree with the vote

Just when I thought of changing my sig...

Good show i had too think about that until i read a few post up. ;)

Never thought of this but i think Erich is on the right path. If given the choice between a .xxx and .kids i would rather see the latter.