Wonder if this is one is about NeoPanel or has anything to do with it.

http://www.elance.com/c/feedback/main/Details.pl?action=sellstats&view_person=stprasad

ahhhhh - is that why Neo3Net's signature changed and no longer shows the date for the release of their demo:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?&threadid=59332

surprise surprise...

I feel sorry for those who fell for this thread:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?&threadid=53710

Originally posted by TimPD
Wonder if this is one is about NeoPanel or has anything to do with it.

http://www.elance.com/c/feedback/main/Details.pl?action=sellstats&view_person=stprasad

I take it you mean that 2nd review there from "neo3net" on elance? So neopanel is just licenses of something made from that other companies already existing program called " CIGAR" ?

Im confused, can you clear this up for all of wht Neo3Net?

Blahahaha, in a post on their own forums they said they had outsourced this project to a 'local' company. Since when is India local to the US? I think I'll keep my CPanel, thank you very much.

The lies behind neo3media start to unravel, what will show it's ugly little head next.

/me waits quitely for HostGUI :)

Yes, we did have them develop neopanel however, they broke their contract and we had to get new developers to finish where they left off. (hence the delays).

We said local because we wanted to keep the public away from the developers.

NeoPanel will be released and will be better then ever I assure you.

Thank You For Your Time.

If you have any other questions post them over at Neo3 Media Inc's Forums

Thanks Again

Originally posted by Neo3Net
Yes, we did have them develop neopanel however, they broke their contract and we had to get new developers to finish where they left off. (hence the delays).


I'm confused. By the looks of it, they own the software and wanted to license it out to you to use (you said that yourself). Yet somehow people will finish up the development? How it is your project to have for them to finish?

You know, after all this time and comparing it to HostGUI, which is really being developed and in the capacity which has been posted about by Jag, now we see this? Am I psychic?


We said local because we wanted to keep the public away from the developers.


So, you lied.


NeoPanel will be released and will be better then ever I assure you.



Better than ever? Better than never was, or better than wasn't yours?


Thank You For Your Time.

If you have any other questions post them over at Neo3 Media Inc's Forums

Thanks Again

No thanks, I'm fine with seeing you embarrass yourself here. I have no further comments.

I feel sorry for those who fell for this thread:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showt...&threadid=53710

Why do you feel sorry? HostGUI accepted Pre-Orders months ago and they have failed to reach many deadlines.

The people who Pre-Ordered will receive their product.

Thank You

Originally posted by Neo3Net


Why do you feel sorry? HostGUI accepted Pre-Orders months ago and they have failed to reach many deadlines.

The people who Pre-Ordered will receive their product.

Thank You

Why are you comparing a lie of yours to HostGUI? This clearly shows no NeoPanel existed. I've seen code and worked on code for HostGUI. How do you justify comparing a control panel being developed, with a lie? Besides, what does HostGUI have to do with your product or company?

We contracted it out, they broke their contract.

I don't think it matters how or who develops NeoPanel. I think the only thing that should matter is its functions, its capability and its features.

Thank You

Besides, what does HostGUI have to do with your product or company?


I didn't bring the topic to HostGUI someone else did.

Originally posted by Neo3Net
We contracted it out, they broke their contract.

I don't think it matters how or who develops NeoPanel. I think the only thing that should matter is its functions, its capability and its features.

Thank You

You lied. You lied about the progress, the situation, the developers, etc. Worse yet, it wasn't your control panel. How are you going to have local developers work on it, when it's not yours? How exactly did you lie about the location of the developers before and say they were local, and now you actually are having local developers working on it? Who? How do we believe that now? We don't know anything. I think that is the only thing that matters, is beyond deadlines, that you lied, you had no idea of the situation you got yourself in. Your story doesn't 'jive', it just doesn't. You show you can't be trusted.

Originally posted by Neo3Net


I didn't bring the topic to HostGUI someone else did.

No one mentioned HostGUI in that fashion. Someoen said they are waiting for HostGUI in another post. The post you responded to and drug HostGUI's name into, had no mention of it. You're playing games, stop it.

As far as I know..and don't quote me on this..the guy in charge of Neopanel is the same dude that used to resell KingComp servers...perhaps you remember him..

lied about his age..finally confessed..then kingcomp kicked him out...

or at least I've talked to the same guy on AIM that is in control of both...

not intended as bashing..but more of a warning..when you do something stupid people won't forget...

and if they do, i'll remind them :D

lol...just read that link posted above..

Just a suggestion before you buy..find some one else that has already bought to make sure it does have some features of a control panel :)....85% of what has come out of this kids mouth has been a lie..at least to me

Tim, although you can be trusted more then Neo, I see HostGUI and this control panel as equal right now. Both claim to have a great product and are taking preorders to products that only have a list of features, and maybe a made up html page of the GUI. Telling me you've seen the actual code doesn't help much, because I remember hearing from others that work for JaguarPC that it would be released in weeks, and is working great right now... about 7 months ago. I won't believe anything about any of these control panels until I actually see a working demo. Not someone claiming it is great, or a html page that anyone who uses frontpage can go make.

Any ETA?

get-hosted ...did you go and read that comment? ...it sounds like you can go get "CIGAR" and you will have your neopanel

i may be wrong..im just glancing at all of it...but it sounds like Neopanel is going to end up grounded....

Lets just wait for the demo to be released.

I assure you that the capabilities of the "CIGAR" program are nothing like that of NEOPANEL.

Thank You

can't wait :)

Going to go get some popcorn and watch some more of this :D
It's better than the Tyson Lewis fight .. :)

Studio64 this is nothing. I have seen arguments with over 100 posts. :) Mostly in the offers forums though.

Search the archives for some fun :)

Originally posted by Neo3Net
Lets just wait for the demo to be released.

I assure you that the capabilities of the "CIGAR" program are nothing like that of NEOPANEL.

Thank You

So when is the demo going to be released?
Actually, you don't have to answer that...

I've read the elance thing from the thread starter...

neo3net's Comments: Space2let services has stolen all of our ideas and features to implement them into their own software. We contracted them to make us software and they are keeping the software for themselves and are expecting us to pay per each license. Very dishonest and cannot be trusted. They also broke their contract that they signed and I have. We planned to take legal actions against them however, they are located in india and from the USA there is nothing we can do. Advised to stay away.

and their response to you was...
Response by stprasad: Neo3Net is making allegations that are totally out of line with the recorded communications we have been having. After two months of mutual discussion of specification requirements to customise our off the shelf product,a web control panel, CIGAR, offered to them, it is disheartening, to say the least, to get baseless accusations hurled against us and on our credibility... continues but rest of it seem unnecessary to point out

So it's a fact that "capabilities of the "CIGAR" program are nothing like that of NEOPANEL." - you might want to elaborate yourself there...

I personally don't know this group that you guys contracted out for... NeoPanel... but I'm looking all the other feedback ratings and all I see is 4 stars or better (except one at the bottom).

Well, wish you well with the project... keep us updated on how your 'legal' proceedings with these developers who broke the contract are going...

Don't forget

****
We do, and intend to agressively pursue our redressal options, by seeking advice from eLance and other US based legal advisors. We have the entire records of communication, and have received a prima facie opinion from a very senior legal counsel, in our favor.
*****

It would be interesting if the developer saw this thread :)

Originally posted by CobaltConn
Don't forget

****
We do, and intend to agressively pursue our redressal options, by seeking advice from eLance and other US based legal advisors. We have the entire records of communication, and have received a prima facie opinion from a very senior legal counsel, in our favor.
*****

It would be interesting if the developer saw this thread :)

I dont think they have anything to worry about and neither does neo3net, isnt he under age ? If so , there goes that contract right out the window.

All I can say is anyone that sends this kid money deserves to lose it. His history and his actions and BS should say it all.

I think his dad would probably be doing it for him...if I remember correctly he has some sort of store in Chicago his dad owns..I dunno exactly how I know that..but I think it came up earlier on how he is legally able to sell dedicated's w/kingcomp...

and wouldn't you think eLance watches for that??

Originally posted by Jag


I dont think they have anything to worry about and neither does neo3net, isnt he under age ? If so , there goes that contract right out the window.

After reading that I wish I was a kid. You can almost get away with murder if your underage =/

What company was he reselling KingComp servers under?

heh..im reading 1984..

what I said was that his AIM user is: vortexminds


..thought it had something to do w/his name..other than that i dunno :)

I don't believe Vortech. Vortech is a company based in Orlando owned by Brad. Now Get Your facts right lol.

I just want to get the facts staight: If Neo3Media "claims" that the developers have stolen the code, how much code do they still have at their disposal?

Wouldn't the project have to be started completely from stratch?

Peter

AHH, I remember him then I Had in on my buddy list for what I can't remember.

Everything is conducted legally and as I said before, When the demo is released we can start a new thread complaining about how good/bad it is. Thank You Very Much

How do we know it is all done legally? Do you have something to prove that? If you stole someones else code I don't consider that legal.

I would imagine you would need to prove something is done illegally- since when does a software company have to provide a certificate or detailed journal explicitly decreeing their product's code is 100% homegrown.

You'd have to approach this from the opposite side of the argument. Not so say that there isn't a legitimate concern here, but you can't demand proof of code being 100% original. Technically, what an impossibility.

Also Tim, you speaking on matters of legality is extremely humorous.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57723

Needless to say, you're still 100% delinquent with our company.

LOL... yes I did find it odd that Timmy brings this up when he himself is in a similar situation of lies and bills being past due etc....

Back On Subject... So when is this coming out since all the delays?

Back On Subject... So when is this coming out since all the delays?

Yes tim its good to keep the flame away from you :rolleyes:

Anyway, the control panel will have a final release date when its ready. We will not be making up release dates anymore. The next date that we post will be the day that it will be released.

Thanks

hey..we solved Tim's problem a few threads back.. :)

as for Neopanel, someone should just call his dad so he gets grounded

LOL @ Cobalt.

hey..we solved Tim's problem a few threads back..

Whats to resolve about NeoPanel? I don't see a problem. Except you people are very impatient.

If you don't want to buy NeoPanel DON'T

If you don't want to buy it until you see a demo DON'T

If you don't want to beleive it until you see a demo DON'T

All I am saying is lets just wait.

I think thats good enough and its fair. Please don't flame me because you haven't seen the product. And if you still think that there is nothing we will just see. :)

Also what did we solve? Last time I read that thread, the last post was that tim is to immature to run a company. I guess I am to young to understand these "grown up" things. :rolleyes: (Even though tim is just a few months older then me.

Anyway, the product will speak for its self.

Thank You

His age has never been a factor in our stance. Powersurge itself was started when the owners were YOUNGER than Mr. Petty, albeit that was seven plus years ago.

"Grown up things" - is expecting payment for services rendered a grown-up thing? If that is the case then Timmy obviously is in the right. Timmy, we'll gladly provide you with free cpanel licensing so you can spread your nonsense-filled posts throughout the entire internet to seduce people into purchasing licenses from you. Hence you get cash, we pay Darkorb and eat every cent of it. Sounds like a super plan.

Not really.
We are still patiently awaiting payment from the delinquent and fraudulent "Paradise Designs corporation" ; aka Tim Petty. Knowing Tim's past and present dealings, I am not sure his business practices would be any different whether he were 14 years of age, or 24, or 54. Perhaps he will prove me wrong sooner than later, as well as the other dozens of people he has damaged in a business sense.

neo3net- I am very anxious to see your demo when it is ready, as our company would be quite interested for a variety of possible routes we could take with it. If you align yourself with Timmy however, it will only stir up bad blood here, and among a vast number of other individuals that have been coerced into believing he had "finally turned over a new leaf".

Good luck with your panel!

neo3net..if your talking to me about being impatient..i don't even care to see the demo..i just want to make sure that everyone knows your a lier, and most liers tend to..well lie..and lies are not good things in business

neo3net..if your talking to me about being impatient..i don't even care to see the demo..i just want to make sure that everyone knows your a lier, and most liers tend to..well lie..and lies are not good things in business

If you don't care about it, why are you responding in this thread? Just to make sure that you can get your way? And make sure no one ever buys NeoPanel. Shouldn't you be spending your time running your company.

My past should not have anything to do with what this company's future holds. The past should be closen just as it has been before:

Ex. American Revolution, US hated England. Now we are allies

The product speaks for itself. When its released, (and again I will say this) then you can flame it all you want. Until then go back to your company and work on trying to get your FAQ to work. (Check your cp demo)

Thank you

We just wanted to get the facts cleared about NeoPanel. Also, how come the skins looks like a rip of HostGUi's ..

Have you even looked at the new skin? It looks nothing like HostGUi are you dreaming?

http://neo3media.com/user4/domain2.htm

Thanks

I spend time running my company when it needs it. Usually that's whenever I get a support/order email. Then I take care of it Neo3Net :)...I'm glad your interested in how to run a business

and your right...past has nothing to do with the future...heck, they make us study history in school...for what?...absolutely no reason at all, obviously...

heh, wait..maybe you haven't taken any history classes yet :D

neo3net, do you deny that is your listing on elance.com ? Do you deny that neopanel was nothing more than a modified version of that companies product and thats where your hit a "snag" ? I dont think you would have a bad product if it weren't surrounded by pure lies about the developers, it origination, and what it really is. Look , your young, take all these mistakes and learn from them. When it comes to a commercial product you expect businesses to be run from, tell the truth about everything. These businesses have real people behind them with real families, they need a real and honost approach to their livelihood.

Jag, if you look at the thread yes that was our post on elance. Yes I lied about the developers and other stuff and it was a mistake. But Like I keep saying lets just wait to its released before you bash anything.

Thanks

CobaltConn, you have way to much time on your hands to be worrying about something that you don't care about.

Thank You

haha..make quite a few mistakes..thats what about 1/2 your posts sound like..

Sorry, I made a mistake, but my service will show that I am good...three days go by...no more KingComp!! wonder how your 25+ new virtual accounts a day are doing for ya..bet they would pull in more than this cp will :)

I haven't bashed your product, I am however pointing out its "owner" or "developers" have not been honest and upfront. Who would place their business in the hands of company that is known to lie ? Businesses only live on when surrounded and powered by other businesses with strong ethics.

I reiterate:
Look , your young, take all these mistakes and learn from them. When it comes to a commercial product you expect businesses to be run from, tell the truth about everything. These businesses have real people behind them with real families, they need a real and honost approach to their livelihood.

Originally posted by Neo3Net
CobaltConn, you have way to much time on your hands to be worrying about something that you don't care about.

Thank You

Nah..I've just decided that WHT has helped me out a lot, it is a wonderful repository of information. I've drawn from it, day after day..and its time to contribute back :)...this forum needs the knowledge and experiences of others...thats why we all come here :)

oh my... :(, looks like I won't be aloud to purchase Neopanel..anyone wanna resell me their license when they get one :D

Session Start (AIM - CobaltConnection:Neo3net): Mon Jul 08 15:20:22 2002
Neo3net: Whats with you? Why do you have to keep bashing me? You jealous or something. I am not bothering you so just leave me and the company alone.
*** Auto-response sent to Neo3net: I am currently away from the computer.
CobaltConnection: i didn't even send you any messages
Neo3net: You keep sending messages on WHT
CobaltConnection: there is a thread, im responding to it with my knowledge
Neo3net: posts

Neo3net: Your being a pain.
CobaltConnection: why is that?
Neo3net: Your posts don't involve facts, just the opinion that I am a Lier...
Neo3net: Does it interest you that much?
Neo3net: Is your main goal to make sure that I don't sell any of the product?
CobaltConnection: why do you care, if your not a lier, what do you have to worry about?
Neo3net: What I know is different then the impression that you give to the consumers
CobaltConnection: why are all the other posts negative too?
Neo3net: Its only TIM who we are know has his own problems
CobaltConnection: oh, well thats interesting..because it sounds like everyone pretty much knows that everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie :)
Neo3net: Your being a jerk
Neo3net: Can't you conduct yourself civily and not have to bash people
CobaltConnection: im not bashing anyone, i simply state the truth..bashing would be "Your product sucks! mine is better!"
Neo3net: No, see the fact that you need to keep bringing up kingcomp issues is not right
Neo3net: If the users are interested in my past, they will search the archvies
CobaltConnection: why not?
CobaltConnection: I see..what if they don't know about your past?
Neo3net: Does it matter?
CobaltConnection: Well I would think so...if you knew of a company that lied..to the consumers..and later came out with another product, I'd appreciate it if you let me know that ealier they came out with something, and lied to the consumer
Neo3net: KingCOMP wasn't this company
Neo3net: Ok, I don't own this company
Neo3net: I am just a worker
CobaltConnection: maybe you should hire someone else to coordinate your posts on WHT then..because it doesn't look like many people like your strategy of falsifying information
Neo3net: Thats not a real word
Neo3net: It doesn't matter
CobaltConnection: oh, well according to Word it is..but I'll translate for your 15 year-old, apparently uneducated mind..it means not telling the truth..lieing..taking a cookie and saying you didn't to your mommy
Neo3net: Your so immature
CobaltConnection: of course
Neo3net: How old are you?
Neo3net: Does age matter?
Neo3net: You know what
Neo3net: Forget you
Neo3net: Because when NeoPanel is released
Neo3net: And you see that you really want a copy because its so great
CobaltConnection: im 18 sir..and I do..already! i want it so bad
Neo3net: And you come to order....I will make sure I deny any orders from you
CobaltConnection: oh :(..you serious?

hmm.....

hehe this is getting juicy. :stickout

Originally posted by Neo3Net
But Like I keep saying lets just wait to its released before you bash anything.

but like we keep saying... I don't see anyone bashing you personally here. They are only trying to get to the truth... The worst I'm seeing on this thread is that you and your company have lied and you admitted to these facts. Now, if stating the facts in this thread is a definition of a 'bash' then you have bashed yourself and your product enough already...

I say this again... PLEASE keep all of us updated on your legal proceedings with this 'local' developer that exist in India. Not exactly sure how the fact of dishonesty is going to play a role in court (if you actually take them to court). Good luck

LOL :D ..check out the thing about "Small Lies" ...

CobaltConnection: damn
CobaltConnection: i forgot what i said
CobaltConnection: oh, yea i want neopanel
CobaltConnection: im sorry
Neo3net: Why are you being sarcastic
CobaltConnection: haha, because your funny
Neo3net: Why am I funny again?
CobaltConnection: because you get all pissed off and send me AIM
CobaltConnection: something a 15 year old would do
Neo3net: Because your spreading bad things about the company
CobaltConnection: im responding to a single thread, about your lieing, im contributing my knowledge..whats wrong w/that?
Neo3net: Your posting the chat on WHT
CobaltConnection: sure did
Neo3net: Very nice
CobaltConnection: thanks
Neo3net: Honestly, I don't care anymore
Neo3net: Say what you say
CobaltConnection: just want someone to sell me their neopanel when they get it
Neo3net: Because the product will speak for itself
Neo3net: If you have some constructive comments
Neo3net: Sure post them
CobaltConnection: thats what im doing
CobaltConnection: thanks for the "OK" though, appreciate it
Neo3net: I don't think that posting the chat was very constructive
CobaltConnection: whys that?
Neo3net: Its sad how WHT has turned into a flame forum rather then anything that helps people
Neo3net: Because its just sarcasm
CobaltConnection: thats true
CobaltConnection: shame how 15 year olds try to run companies by contious lies, and think they will get away with it
Neo3net: I am not gettting away with anything SIR
Neo3net: I haven't stolen any money
Neo3net: And I haven't hurt anyone in anyway
CobaltConnection: thats cool
Neo3net: I don't run the company
Neo3net: we have other employees
CobaltConnection: wonderful
CobaltConnection: why are you telling me this?
Neo3net: Because your assuming that its all run by me
CobaltConnection: do you honestly think I care? tell the forum
Neo3net: I honestly do think you care because you seem to like the thread very much
CobaltConnection: i don't care to talk to you, or about your product at all..just want to make sure that everyone knows that you lie, thats my only objective..and I'll respond to any of your comments that tries to justify lieing, anyway I want
Neo3net: Well ok then
Neo3net: However I think you should work on making money
CobaltConnection: ??
Neo3net: Then work on taking potential customers away from our company
CobaltConnection: see, I really have no idea what you are even saying
Neo3net: Sorry, I didn't mean to split that into two ims
CobaltConnection: are you saying, stop telling people what I did..its making them not trust my company?
Neo3net: However you should probally work on making money for your company, instead of taking potential customers away from our company
CobaltConnection: im working on that right now...why do you even care?..ive got plenty of time man, i can do both
Neo3net: For the same reason that you care about NeoPanel
CobaltConnection: oh, you don't want me to get potential customers by lieing? ..that doesn't make sense
Neo3net: No
CobaltConnection: you don't think so either? ..well thats good
Neo3net: You should focus on your own company
CobaltConnection: ok..i am
Neo3net: rather then trying to ruin someone elses company
CobaltConnection: would you like me to tell you the story about the free flow of information that WHT is so well known for?
Neo3net: Sure
Neo3net: Why not
CobaltConnection: ok, well it goes like this, WHT helps me out, I help WHT out..i give my knowledge, I read others...we help each other out..you have to give to the forum to, truly, appreciate it
Neo3net: I do give to the forum A lot
Neo3net: I learn a lot as well
CobaltConnection: well thats good..thats what Im doing by my posts
Neo3net: Not exactly
CobaltConnection: its selfish to keep information you know can help other consumers, to yourself
Neo3net: See no one actually asked for the information on my past
Neo3net: No one really cared
CobaltConnection: did you see what the thread was about? its about your lieing
Neo3net: Not exactly...It drifted toward that
CobaltConnection: what was the thread about then? ..also..you keep saying shouldn't you be working on your company..what exactly are you accomplishing by talking to me?
Neo3net: I am trying to get you to stop posting non sense comments about my past...Its irrelevant
CobaltConnection: i don't understand how it is irrelevant, explain that to me please
Neo3net: The chat post was not neeed
Neo3net: needed*
CobaltConnection: the chat was posted after you started bitching at me
Neo3net: Lets not curse
Neo3net: No need for that
CobaltConnection: do you understand that your lieing is relevant to a product that you are supposedly producing?
Neo3net: Thats the point
Neo3net: brb
Neo3net: its not supposedly
CobaltConnection: ??
Neo3net: It will come out
CobaltConnection: im not saying it won't..what im saying is that your a lier..very simple
Neo3net: Fine, call me a lier
Neo3net: Except this lier has a good product and plenty of pre-orders for it
Neo3net: I am sorry for lieing
Neo3net: If that makes you happy to call me a lier fine
CobaltConnection: ok, I am, and thats what my posts are
CobaltConnection: yes, it makes me happy to be contributing to the wonderful knowledge feed of WHT
Neo3net: Would you like to do a complete background check on me as well
Neo3net: I can have it shipped to you
Neo3net: That way all your curiosity about my past
Neo3net: Can have some food
CobaltConnection: sure, why don't you just post it on WHT?
Neo3net: Sure why not
CobaltConnection: when will it be on there?
Neo3net: Well its a background check on me right?
CobaltConnection: yea
Neo3net: Hmm
Neo3net: Why don't I just tell you

Neo3net: Then you can tell everyone
CobaltConnection: just post it
Neo3net: I don't think it would interest anyone
CobaltConnection: if they are going to buy your product it would
Neo3net: If someone made a thread about it sure why not
Neo3net: Then I will put that in the order page of NeoPanel
Neo3net: Because if the product is amazing
CobaltConnection: haha, your going to tell how you lied?
Neo3net: I did lie...But they never hurt anyone
Neo3net: They were small lies
CobaltConnection: lol, this conversation is getting posted
Neo3net: I never meant for them to get out of hand like they did
Neo3net: Ok
Neo3net: It was an honest mistake for lying
CobaltConnection: that's the funniest thing i've ever heard from someone that runs a business
Neo3net: Like I said before, I don't run the biz
CobaltConnection: lol..honest mistake for lieing
Neo3net: Others do, I just work
Neo3net: If I stole everyone's money I think that would be a problem
Neo3net: But I didn't
Neo3net: I haven't even charged anyone's credit cards yet

Neo3net: Can have some food LOL He is asking you for food? It should be read

can I have some food?

I think so..he grumbled something about muu muu..nchies..i think he said..

:smokin:

:beer: Cheers

Hehe, ya thats funny. Now lets try reading the above line

Neo3net: That way all your curiosity about my past
Neo3net: Can have some food

See I can't understand why this is even relevant?

Maybe its another one of those "grown up" things.

Thanks

Yes, Your Right it is funny.

Quick poll, who would actually give their money to this kid?

Not Me. I wouldn't pay someone when they lied about things and then admits it and says it was just small lies. He actually ask me to design him some skins and he would give me like 4 free NeoPanel license.

I dunno Jag..now that he says I can't have it..I kinda want it :D

Tim, just lay off of Neo3net for a bit. I'm sure you didn't enjoy it when the heat was on you, and everyone was flamming you in your numerous multi-paged arguments, so treat Neo3net the way you would want to be treated.

This whole thread was an obvious attempt to flame Neo3net...

I have no reason to flame him. Yes, I do know how the heat you can get off of WHT Believe Me... I don't want anyone to be flamed here. We're simply trying to find out the truth behind this mess.

I agree with 311 here. Tim is trying to shine the spotlight on someone else.

And noticing your grammar, or rather lack of, in previous threads - isn't it slightly hypocritical to correct Neo3Net's grammar in an IM conversation?

Anyways, Moderator please close this thread before it gets worse then what it already is.

Originally posted by 311
Tim, just lay off of Neo3net for a bit. I'm sure you didn't enjoy it when the heat was on you, and everyone was flamming you in your numerous multi-paged arguments, so treat Neo3net the way you would want to be treated.

This whole thread was an obvious attempt to flame Neo3net and you know it.

Honestly though, just like the Shang threads.. this one needed to be said you have to admit. I wouldnt call it a flame, but more of an "neo3net exposed" thread. This kid lied and in this thread he admitted to it. I do beleive all has been said that can be said though.

Originally posted by TimPD
Anyways, Moderator please close this thread

I agree with Tim, This thread should be closed before anymore damage is done...

Since, The truth was revealed by him I think it is time to close her down.

I agree with Jag. He admitted he lied, which as far as I can tell, was what this thread was about initially.

Tim, why do you always post asking for threads to be closed? The mods have a mind of their own and I think they can decide for themselves what they want in their forum.

I have send a PM to Chicken requesting this to be closed..

Why does it need to be closed? Surely it can be left to die out, just as other threads do?

Well It could that to. But Closing Would Be Better :D.

I'm not up to date on US laws, but would employing a 15 year old be child labour? It would be here in Europe unless the employment conditions adhered to some strict laws (which include a very limited amount of working hours per year and stuff like that). Anyway, I'd never put much credebility in a company that employs a 15 year old as a saled rep, even if the internet is blind.

Guess I won't be getting a copy of Neopanel either :bawling:

Actually I think you may be able to employee peolpe as young as 14 in some states here with a proper work permit and limited work conditions. But some legal issues prevent companies from letting anyone below 18 manage their clients and servers.

I am a legal worker. Here in NY you can have your working papers at 14. However I don't think you can be the CEO/Founder of a company at 14,15,16 or 17. Hope know one is breaking that law.

Thanks

Timmy-

You don't pay anyone, period. Including us.
It's time to remove yourself from the webhosting world until you somehow scrounge together enough funds.


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TimPD
Web Hosting Expert

Not Me. I wouldn't pay someone when they lied about things and then admits it and says it was just small lies. He actually ask me to design him some skins and he would give me like 4 free NeoPanel license.
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I wish I had the clairvoyance and free time to start threads, make a few dozen mindless posts, and then demand the thread closed after providing absolutely nothing as far as content or feedback to the WHT community.

Timmy, as long as you continue to defraud businesses you will have people on your back until you make amends to the situation.

We are still waiting patiently for your payment.


:D

Love,

lol :D..i feel the love..

At least a few people retain their sense of humour!

Great stuff isildur, it made me laugh :D

I propose a Poll be started about voting TimPD off this board. It would save a good GB or 2 of wasted hard drive space and make the 50+ companies that despise him feel special.

It would also free up our consumed system administrator from wasting time battling the confederate minor!

point well taken Aaron......
Ahahaha
I'm going to attempt to close out my WHT browser windows now.
It just hurts sooooo much, it's an ADDICTION.

Nothing but love for T. Petty & the vast "Paradise Designs" corporate staff.

Best of luck.

Originally posted by Neo3Net
I am a legal worker. Here in NY you can have your working papers at 14. However I don't think you can be the CEO/Founder of a company at 14,15,16 or 17. Hope know one is breaking that law.

Thanks

What part of NY do you live?

I live in Oakdale (Long Island), however Neo3 Media, Inc. 's headquarters is in Huntington. (Long Island)

Hey Neo3Net maybe you should take a leaf out of Homer Simpsons book

"...it's my first day"

Hey Neo3Net maybe you should take a leaf out of Homer Simpsons book

"...it's my first day"


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I don't think you are going to talk your way out of the hole you are in, so you can either keep digging and get in deeper or quit

Mods - Please close the thread once again. Chicken I pmed you again.

Tim shutup.

No, I won't shut up. Sorry, When this thread is closed I will.

Why do you have to tell the mod what to do. I KNOW you want to be the mod of this forum, but you have to be annoying.

One of these days the mods will just tell you to sod off with your incessant whining about closing posts. Hopefully it'll be right now. Go close topics on your own board.

:angry:

Originally posted by TimPD
:angry:



Awwww...

Now guys don't you think we've ragged Timmah enough????

Whooops, I was gone for a week and forgot, Rag On! :D

:D

Still awaiting payment Timmy......
Just a refresher.

Also just food for thought: starting threads on WHT might not exactly be an advisable occupation for you currently. You need to make things right with the webhosting community FIRST, then after that is complete you can rack up your WHT posts with icons, random human guttural noises, and other nonsense.

If you need assistance with making amends, please don't hesitate to ask.

:o geez ... to the last 3 people who posted before this post...

give it a rest! isn't it your bedtime? seriously... read the last couple posts of this thread... you guys seriously sound like a bunch of kids getting ready to trade some punches because of a dumb "he said, she said"

As per this thread itself... I don't have a doubt that the mods will close it since its way off track and so many childish 'bickering' going on..

Travis, I tried contacting you. No Luck... I asked for Travis when Jara answered and she said you was busy with someone else! Not Fred.

Eh em... I apparently am still subscribed to this thread.

The response from that "company" on the Elance project clearly said they have a control panel they will license out. It seems apparent that there was never anything expressed or stated that it would be your product and it is theirs. You can not "finish up" something that's not legally yours, and I doubt you have the source code.

The CIGAR control panel (of that company) is here: http://cigar.space2let.com (they also do hosting). Not only the Elance response for your project stating it's theirs and they will license it out, but it's been on their Elance services profile stating they have this control panel, said it's name and how they offer it to their clients they host.

What you (Edit, You, not I. Oops) fail to understand here, and why this "lie" is so important to this issue, is that you might have misunderstood (I don't see how) or something, but it looks to me that there's nothing for you to finish up. maybe you are planning to actually have a control panel developed, but the facts are pretty clear about that happened. I won't pretend to know the whole story, but I found your arrogant comments before, using HostGUI as examples and how you "will release it on time, unlike HostGUI", copied the HostGUI skins even at some point recently here, and talked up all about it. That opened you up to a problem and hence my comments. It just seems so ridiculous and you opened yourself up to this and this type of response and issue, it has nothing to do with anyone attacking you or this product, but it's reasonable to question what all is going on.

As for the younger people comments, that has no bearing on what this person did now or before. They did this because what type of person that they are. Some people learn to not do things as they get older, but some do not and it's mostly the person that is the reason for the problems. There are obviously some good examples of how some people that are younger do poorly, but I've also seen to good examples and some outstanding examples of younger people doing excellent. So, it's all relative anyway, it's just that the poor examples stand out. A lie is a lie. (PS: It's liar, not lier). Anyway, that's all I have to say on this topic in regards to this product. Good luck.

thank you Tim_Greer for trying to steer this thread back on course...

all others who were bickering about TimPD, I suggest you either start another thread or PM/email/icq/AIM whatever

alpha: If you'd like to know just how much $ damages we're talking here courtesy of Mr. Timmy Petty, just know this: it's ridiculously mind boggling. I will continue to haunt this infant until he provides a solution for this- if only to warn other businesses and individuals from dealing with the gigantic firm that is Paradise Designs, Inc.

Timmy: I hope you aren't talking about the incoming call from this afternoon that our call center announced as "There's a guy on line one for you Travis, he says his name is Fred but it sounds exactly like Timmy"

Professionality at its best.
Oh, and we do log our calls here in a variety of ways. I would be happy to produce a soundbyte or two, but I doubt it's legal.

You know how to reach me, the RIGHT way.
That is, in a sane and respectable manner.

Cigar. You found it?

It looks as they're going to be a competitor to NeoPanel selling the same software and code with a little more work done.

isildur,

That sort of posting isn't going to help. You made the mistake of dealing with A: A minor (that in itself isn't a bad thing, but you can't take action against them as easily). B: A person that has displayed how they don't do good business. Resorting to this type of thing on the forums, persistantly arguing and insulting him isn't making you look good, no matter how much money you lost. State your issue with him (in another thread) in a manner which displays your honesty, outlines the problem, etc. What you're doing now is not helping, even if I can understand why you'd be angry. I'm done with this thread at this point.

:eek:

Originally posted by isildur
alpha: If you'd like to know just how much $ damages we're talking here courtesy of Mr. Timmy Petty, just know this: it's ridiculously mind boggling. I will continue to haunt this infant until he provides a solution for this- if only to warn other businesses and individuals from dealing with the gigantic firm that is Paradise Designs, Inc.

isildur (or im guessing Travis)... my sympathies for having lost so much money in damages, but again, this thread is not exactly the place you need to explain to me (or anyone else here) about your dealings with TimPD. I'm just trying to get a simple point across here... the subject of the thread is "NeoPanel" - if you want to talk about TimPD's business practices, I urge you to contact him personally or start a new thread.

Anyways, I'm sorry I also added to the thread being so off topic... but just had to elaborate myself.

Travis, why don't you post a thread in a week updating us on the payment issue? I would be interested in knowing how the matter progresses.

Peter

I understand all of your points, Tim Greer & alpha. I honestly do. It's more a matter of principle. I can't believe I've wasted this much time on it, to be honest. I suppose if I continue entertaining TimPD in the fulcrum of his existence which is apparently WHT, it's only going to eat up additional time.

My apologies for steering this entire thread off course. When I year of 'legalities' and 'money' being discussed via the king of pointless drivel it makes my stomach turn.

It is pointless to continue with this. We'll leave Timmy to other methods which have already been put into motion.

My apologies again.
Have a great evening.

Tim, How did you find the URL to that Cigar Panel?

I'll more than happily entertain this thread for a bit for you Travis.

I'd wager he owes 2000 if not more to powersurge, and no telling how much he owes to other companies... didn't he have a server or two shut off somewhere because of non-payment?

Anyhow, granted it is wrong for them to accept business from a minor, he did have his uncle sign for everything if I remember correctly. So in the end at least somebody’s credit history will be ruined by this but I’m afraid that might not be enough....

But also Timmy, their right, you should settle your debts before you go around here giving other people advice.

Originally posted by TimPD
Tim, How did you find the URL to that Cigar Panel?

Click on the link to the Elance site posted.

Look at the company name and the person's name on the profile.

Do a search on that person's name and.or company name in google.

Find their site by the company and person's name.

Look and see they have their company and the hosting site.

If it's a host, try hosturl.com/cigar or cigar.hosturl.com (if it's the company, try the same).

If those above don't work, try a search for the company or host address and the word cigar.

Pretty simple.

Now go pay your debts.

We're Talking About NeoPanel . This topic is going way off. .

Now Stay On Topic

Ahh, Yea Tim. That isn't a bad idea.

As you wish timmy the great wise one capable of giving advice in a single leap and screwing over companies and customers alike without even a blink.


http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=57723

Anyone wishing to rant about timmy plz post in the thread above.

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