i was just wondering is there any good Cp's for Win Boxes ?
im more of a win32 tech and well i dont know much about Linux so i started gething into webserver and stuff like that and i now have a Win2kpro server runing with no problems and the only cps i can find are for Linux only! witch would be fine if i new anything about it =p

im gona start playing around with it soon ones i get my other computer.

but to awnser my question are there any good control panels for win32 ?







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Try doing a search on the board.

The ones that I know of are:

ENSIM (Has windows version now)

HostingController.com

Helm.com (Not Yet Released)

There are others, do a search and they will come :)

I think you mean:
http://www.webhostautomation.com/

(for the HELM software product that is forthcoming)

though helm.com looks fairly promising as well.
:D


Peace.

also check H-Sphere on : http://psoft.net

It requires a unix based box though to run...

If you are also counting unreleased softwares, add "Etrinix : Active Matrix" to the list :D they hope to have it out of beta this week!

wow well Helm look realy good. but it seems i canot buy it.
well i guess im gona have to wait.....
thx for all your info =)

hey i just got the Ensim and it also looks great but i was wondering is this just for IIS ? becuase thats all they mension?

i cant seem to find any data in the readme about Apache.
anyone know if this is just a IIS cp ?

which ensim did you purchase? it has versions for both IIS and Apache.

well i just got the trial version. just to try it. and in the doc's it only talks about IIS its the 75mb setup.exe witch i downloaded

Originally posted by Arsalan
If you are also counting unreleased softwares, add "Etrinix : Active Matrix" to the list :D they hope to have it out of beta this week!

:)

The name has been changed to "Command Matrix", and yes, the demo is out with the release date set to the 5th of August.

Originally posted by Etrinix


:)

The name has been changed to "Command Matrix", and yes, the demo is out with the release date set to the 5th of August.

Entinix,

you have on your requirements page " Windows™ 2000 Advanced Server with Service Pack3 installed "

Is Win2k AS a *requirement* ?

Isnt that going to be a bit detremental to the sales of the CP?

Cheers,

Originally posted by jonny b


Entinix,

you have on your requirements page " Windows™ 2000 Advanced Server with Service Pack3 installed "

Is Win2k AS a *requirement* ?

Isnt that going to be a bit detremental to the sales of the CP?

Cheers,

What can I say :D

well if its for Win2K.. then that shud be the requirement right?

Yep, Its a windows 2000 control panel :) so its required!

jonny b how do you plan to run any control panel work with out an OS ? ;)

jonny what cp u use for your windoze 2000 servers?

any comments on H-Sphere.. how's that?

There are more than one type of win2k server. I think Jonny is pointing out that Command Matrix requires Advanced server which a very expensive win2k server version.

Most control panels just need the standard Windows 2000 server version.

Thank you for pointing this out, this was a mistake. :o
Has been fixed now. :)

LOL... if you are developing for Win2k servers shouldn't you have known that!?!

We do know that, except our proof reading skills defenitely need to improve :D

It might be a good idea to think more about your "requirements".

It would be best to call them recommendations rather than requirements.

I shouldn't need to tell you all this, and I'm sorry if this comes across as a flame. I just trying to point out some areas that aren't giving the right impressions.

Intel® Pentium® III, 500MHz or higher
Your product is a single server win2k CP, if it is written well, it should not need a PIII 500MHz processor. It should run on a Celeron without too much difficulty. NB: you shouldn't need to take into account that that server is used for hosting domains as well. Else your requirments could be anything dependant on the number of sites that are hosted on the server.

256MB RAM or Higher, 512 MB Recommended
I'm guessing your requirements are based on that the CP is a single server panel. You'll probably find 128MB is a requirement and the 512 is a recommendation, but I won't know your application memory requirements as well as you will.

Windows™ 2000 Server with Service Pack3 installed
Your CP really requires the 3rd service pack? It won't run without a service pack, or may be with just service pack 2? What in SP3 does it use that means it can't run without it?

200MB of Free Disk Space on the installation partition
Thats a big product for the installation. If this size would take into account datastores as well i doubt it would be this big.

NTFS File System on the Installation partition.
Fair enough. I presume this is soley because of security not because of application constraints?

The software requirements are the same. I'm presuming that I don't really need to have MSFTP or frontpage installed if I don't want to use them?

Your requirements has missed out on data storage needs. Does the CP require an access database? If so which Jet version +SP would be necessary? If MSSQL or MySQL which version?


On a slightly different area. Are you sure you have thought about your support pricing? $150 for a 6 month contract with an unlimited and guaranteed 3 hour response 24 hours a day may be a little under pricing yourself ;)

I know that a couple of bits are a little picky, but you should get the picture.

Originally posted by Etrinix
We do know that, except our proof reading skills defenitely need to improve :D

"As a team, we focus on building relationships based on our stable of skill sets"


I know that some people start out developing in their one desk office or even at home, but in a stable? Thats got to be unique :D

Good post Adam_S. <Grin - Wondering why you are always sooooo interested in Win2k control panels whilst always shouting loudly for Helm.>

Edited just to point out that i was referring above to your rather long post (you then posted another a few moments before my post.)

I always shout loudly for Helm because I strongly believe it is a fantastic product. I shout also because I will most likely be one of their first customer, and becuase they deserve it. The product shows to have a lot of thought and effort in it.

I don't want to come across rude because my intentions are much otherwise, but its one of the first I've seen that isn't a clone.

Fairplay - honerable intentions. Just for the record can you state categorically that you have nothing to do with the companies involved in developing the product?

For the record and since you ask. I run my own successful win2K hosting company (Openhosting) that does have ties to Helm by means that we have helped the webhost automation guys with their requirements. I suppose this is does make me a little bias since their requirements will, of course, fit our needs :D. There are some other hosts too. I know of vibus but I'm not told of the others.

ooo 200 posts.. well.. 201 now...

Hey Adam - thanks for being honest - that goes a really long way. I wish you all the best for the future.
Regards

Ps. Congrats on the milestone

Originally posted by markcastle
Hey Adam - thanks for being honest - that goes a really long way. I wish you all the best for the future.
Regards

Thanks Mark. You too.

Originally posted by Adam_S
There are more than one type of win2k server. I think Jonny is pointing out that Command Matrix requires Advanced server which a very expensive win2k server version.

Most control panels just need the standard Windows 2000 server version.

Thats exactly what i meant ;)

he wouldnt have sold too many if people had to add £ 2000 to the cost of a windows licence from the off set ;)

Cheers,

Its still referencing the advanced server on the products page. Another place to update ;)

Originally posted by Adam_S
Its still referencing the advanced server on the products page. Another place to update ;)

Thank you for the help Adam, appreciate your taking the time... specially at this hour :)

I'm in the UK so its only 9am. Not so bad ;)

Originally posted by Mi6
i was just wondering is there any good Cp's for Win Boxes ?
im more of a win32 tech and well i dont know much about Linux so i started gething into webserver and stuff like that and i now have a Win2kpro server runing with no problems and the only cps i can find are for Linux only! witch would be fine if i new anything about it =p

im gona start playing around with it soon ones i get my other computer.

but to awnser my question are there any good control panels for win32 ?

My favourite... Command Matrix - etrinix.com (http://etrinix.com)

I believe the question was if Windows 2000 Advanced Server is really needed. Cant you run this on regular windows 2000 server?

Originally posted by whoppe
I believe the question was if Windows 2000 Advanced Server is really needed. Cant you run this on regular windows 2000 server?

Yes, the CM can be run on a windows 2000 server :)

J,

See what I mean ;)

Originally posted by Adam_S
J,

See what I mean ;)

I'm keeping out of this one :D

Cheers,