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SHTech
03-15-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm proud to present that we have released final stable version of ASSP X (http://sultanserver.com/projects/asspx.tar.gz). (Installation instruction included in the archive)

What is ASSP X? ASSP X is the WHM addon module to automatically install/update ASSP (Anti Spam SMTP Proxy, the best replacement for buggy SpamAssassin, home page at http://assp.sourceforge.net/) with cPanel interface for your clients. Currently we support: x, x2, xmail, bluelagoon, monsoon, Netenberg's xcontroller, all RVSkin.com themes.

The best thing with our addon - it is FREE! Yes, no tricks or whatever.
Why to pay when you may get more for nothing :)

What is more important - it is so easy to use that you may install and use it with just basic knowledges!

Why to choose ASSP? Because it is fast, powerful, not resource hog, protects Exim from direct connections and small-to-middle DoS on SMTP service.

Feel free to write your comments, bug reports, feature suggestions, etc.

If you wish to contribute to the development contact me via PM.

ASSP should be available on every cPanel server for FREE!

P.S. Installation service is also available if you unsure or wish to have guaranteed painless migration. Contact me via PM.

SHTech
03-16-2007, 02:26 PM
Guys, in you unsure what ASSP is read the official ASSP wiki at http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome

It may helps you to understand how good ASSP is for your hosting business. It really save your life as all options are organized and are at the same place. Very good when you have many servers to manage.

SHTech
03-24-2007, 11:09 AM
Btw, ASSP X become more mature and installed on production systems for some time already. Feel free to ask me questions - we are interested in further ASSP X development to help its integration with cPanel/WHM.

erick_p
04-30-2007, 05:46 PM
Hi SHTech, I am interested in ASSP. I would like to download your installer. Before I tinker with it, do you recommend scrapping SA (for which I have created several rules over the years, but it still lets some spam trickle through) *before* the ASSP installation, or after trying ASSP for some time? FYI, I use SA with DCC, Pyzor, and Razor, plus some basic Exim.conf rules to look at two RBLs and discard anything that ClamAV files malicious. I am surprised that they still let some spam in.

Thanks!

SHTech
05-01-2007, 03:07 AM
Yes, you need to download asspx.tar.gz, unpack it and execute install.sh

What about your existing rules. Backup /etc/exim.conf* files and then install recommended exim configuration via "WHM -> SultanServer ASSP X". This way you get clean Exim which works with ASSP at its best.

After installation is done you may wish to put ALL filters into TEST MODE. Later you may turn most of them ON.

We have also added ASSP Spambox which works the same as SpamAssassin Spambox so you may enable it on chosen accounts via cPanel -> ASSP X and all spam will be moved to "spam" directory of chosen email account! Nice feature!

erick_p
05-01-2007, 09:17 AM
Thanks so much! But--

1. Where's the ASSP option in my Cpanel theme? I have done the "Install Cpanel interface" bit. I use bluelagoon skin for my domains' cpanel. What am I missing? Does this only work with rvskin stuff? I find the whole rvskin stuff hideous in looks and would like to avoid it is possible. What's the link to assp for cpanel so I can manually install it in my own skin?

2. I do not see any ASSP Spambox. Where is it? I am running ASSPX 1.3.2.

Superb script btw, hats off!!

erick_p
05-02-2007, 12:05 AM
My Exim was all messed up. I have a number of forwards and such in my cpanel for specific domains, but they stopped working. I made all ASSP rules and filters to run in test mode. No help. Then I disabled it. No help. I reinstalled spamd, and now spamd is failing. Any thoughts on how to get back to my setup with spam assassin, which at least works out of the box? Would appreciate any help.

erick_p
05-03-2007, 01:19 AM
It's great if this thing works for some people. I have a messed up system now, despite doing nothing out of the ordinary, just installing the damn thing, seeing it at least visibly functional, but it botched up my email and such. Forwards are not working. Spam is getting caught? May be, but there's no easy way to see a "Spam" folder, where is the ASSP spam box? Now that I have uninstalled it, and re-enabled spamd from right within WHM, spamd keeps failing. Doesn't restart. Thanks but no thanks.

To those who have a functional Spamd (SpamAssassin) and Exim setup, especially one for which they have spent months/years creating rules, my advice would to be stick with it. ASSP is not yet market ready. When the Cpanel team formally launches it, I'll bite.

gabriel68
07-09-2007, 03:10 AM
Eric ,asspx is only a bad free clone of assp deluxe for cpanel. If you want use assp on a cpanel server I suggest you to use assp deluxe for cpanel . assp deluxe for cpanel is officialy supported by Fritz B. the main assp developer.
http://www.iworld.de/homes/fb/ASSP/S05DD62CB?WasRead=1




Gabriel

Mikie4648
07-09-2007, 04:12 AM
It's great if this thing works for some people. I have a messed up system now, despite doing nothing out of the ordinary, just installing the damn thing, seeing it at least visibly functional, but it botched up my email and such. Forwards are not working. Spam is getting caught? May be, but there's no easy way to see a "Spam" folder, where is the ASSP spam box? Now that I have uninstalled it, and re-enabled spamd from right within WHM, spamd keeps failing. Doesn't restart. Thanks but no thanks.

To those who have a functional Spamd (SpamAssassin) and Exim setup, especially one for which they have spent months/years creating rules, my advice would to be stick with it. ASSP is not yet market ready. When the Cpanel team formally launches it, I'll bite.

When you install anything, you are dong so at your own risk especially when installing this application. Yes, it does a bunch of nasty thing on installation and if your not an experienced admin you may get into alot of trouble. But, have you looked at the docs and run though the uninstall process? Its listed there for you to follow. If that doesnt work, hire somebody to fix it.

ASSP is a nice product if you know what your doing and you dont need to reply on sombody else to install it for you as in ASSPX. We run it on all our DA boxes, customized. We dont rely on applicatons like ASSPX to bork our installation but rather prefer to do it ourselves, manually.

And one more thing, this SHTech guy, origional poster seems to be a slightly misinformed. He states that there are no load issues associated with ASSPX. That has already proven to be a false statement. I dont know why he keeps harping on that. Maybe he doesnt have anything better to say. Some of our clients running very busy servers running ASSPX had us remove it because of the constant load issues, perl running at around 98%. Something to think about. We dont have ASSP load issues but you may. Tread with caution.

gabriel68
07-09-2007, 04:15 AM
Simply do not confuse assp or assp deluxe for cpanel with asspx .
asspx is an unsupported and free clone .

Gabriel

Mikie4648
07-09-2007, 04:33 AM
I forgot to mention, for those who are having a problem with ASSPX and wish to remove it, contact me and ill provide you with a free ASSPX removal script :)

SHTech
07-09-2007, 05:53 AM
There are no reasons in having script to uninstall ASSP X - we have written everything one should to perform to clean ASSP X. Instructions are in the file INSTALL.txt in the directory /usr/local/asspx.

For those who may be confused with false statements of gabriel68 - ASSP X is not a clone, it is stable, mature and solid product which works on top of ASSP and provide server owners/administrators to manage ASSP as well as clients to tune how ASSP works for their domains. It is free as well. Free is not equal to bad. We developed ASSP X for our own needs and in fact we using our resources to develop ASSP X. But we not require a fee for it.

Regarding load issues. ASSP X itself cause no load - it just a frontend.
On other side ASSP itself may be resource intensive. It not depends on which frontend you are using - ASSP X or ASSP Deluxe.
One should understand on how to setup the server to protect it from spam/attacks/etc. Having good firewall in front of ASSP also a very good idea.

To everyone: feel free to send PM if you wish to get support. While gabriel68 said ASSP X is unsupported product we do provide support. We charge nothing for support!

Enjoy of the freedom of open source products like ASSP X!

gabriel68
07-09-2007, 10:17 AM
For years there was no assp project for Cpanel.
ASSP X was born about 1 month after ASSP Deluxe project and idea started . There is a clear discussion on cpanel forum which demonstrates this . ASSP Deluxe for cpanel is officialy supported by the main assp developer Fritz B (http://www.iworld.de/homes/fb/ASSP/S05DD62CB?WasRead=1). ASSP x no .

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On other side ASSP itself may be resource intensive. It not depends on which frontend you are using - ASSP X or ASSP Deluxe.
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I do not agree, simply because I uninstalled personally assp x installations with over 500 accounts , which were running bad on assp x and without problem on assp deluxe.


Bye

SHTech
07-09-2007, 01:03 PM
Please, do not blame ASSP X with no facts. These statements are false.

In no way ASSP under ASSP Deluxe is better than ASSP under ASSP X in term of how ASSP itself works.

So unless you may provide the reproduceable facts stop posting false claims about ASSP X.

gabriel68
07-10-2007, 02:37 AM
IMHO my statements are not false , simply you cloned an idea ( don't forget it !) and ..blah blah... I stop here ..

bye bye

SHTech
07-10-2007, 02:57 AM
You may say the same about Plesk, HSphere, DirectAdmin that they cloned an idea of cPanel and vise versa.

The idea is in ASSP itself, not in the frontends for it. You brought no "idea", you just selling frontend.

There are different desktop managers for Linux: KDE, Gnome, etc. They are in general frontends for X (XFree86, Xorg). But no one blame that one steal idea from other.

The same apply for different daemons (clam antivirus, spam assassin, cdrdao, cdrecord, ASSP (!) and thousands others). They have frontends, various frontends. And it is the freedom of choice.

I understand you - you just care of your pocket, nothing more. You afraid to loose money, don't fool others.

I'm sure that this thread visitors make their own conclusions based on your and mine responses.

I also ask you to stop flooding in the thread dedicated to ASSP X - create your own if you wish.

gabriel68
07-10-2007, 03:47 AM
You may say the same about Plesk, HSphere, DirectAdmin that they cloned an idea of cPanel and vise versa.
The idea is in ASSP itself, not in the frontends for it. You brought no "idea", you just selling frontend.
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do not joke .. there was no assp frontend for cpanel for years still I found the way to do that using spamlovers (do you remember ? No ? Read the cpanel 3rd so you can remember ) . You asked me on cpanel forum exactly how to do that and after you started to clone the idea some day ago.

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I also ask you to stop flooding in the thread dedicated to ASSP X - create your own if you wish.
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you flooded my cpanel 3rd and I never told you to stop . I simply replied to eric which had the bad experience with assp x , but assp x is only a .... bla bla...

Bye Bye

SHTech
07-10-2007, 05:20 AM
I have said it already - you envy.
You may say anything you wish but one who wish to get stable, updated, secure, fast, open source & free frontend for ASSP will choose ASSP X.

It is what makes you angry.

I will stop respond to prevent more flood coming from you.

gabriel68
07-10-2007, 05:28 AM
angry ? I am simply replying :) and I am smiling . Nothing to do there in Russia ?
Right now I am seeing the sea from my window with a glass of red wine.
Could I be angry with you ? People know well that nothing is free on planet earth
, nothing is unlimited , nothing .

Bye bye

gabriel68
07-10-2007, 05:49 AM
..and , I already told you that I was not interested to make war with you.
But I cannot stay in silence when someone writes that "ASSP is not yet market ready"after using asspx. ASSP is market ready , everyone should only find the right way to run it on a server .

Bye Bye

Mikie4648
07-14-2007, 04:30 AM
..and , I already told you that I was not interested to make war with you.
But I cannot stay in silence when someone writes that "ASSP is not yet market ready"after using asspx. ASSP is market ready , everyone should only find the right way to run it on a server .

Bye Bye

ASSPX is a nasty clone. I first saw ASSP Deluxe for cpanel then all of a sudden this ASSPX for cpanel came along. We do lots of consulting. We have many clients and those have requested ASSPX installed on their server ask us to remove it in less than 2 months because it loaded up the box. While it may be a frontend, it certainly runs lots of script in order to keep up, both via cron and loading the frontend via WHM. So i state again, if your running a BUSY mailserver tread lightly with installing ASSPX. I cant comment on the other product since i have never used it or at least our clients have never installed it.

Ah, here is another one. These people are now working feverishly trying to deploy an ASSPX for DirectAdmin. Now this i'v got to see. Even when they know there is already one in developemnent they are still pushing their version. Amazing.

gabriel68
07-14-2007, 08:29 AM
I know assp deluxe clients which run assp since january on servers with 800 an more domain names with peace of mind . I sold assp deluxe to an uk and chile datacenter and they run it all all their servers without any problem . All assp deluxe scripts are are optimized and have server loads checks to run without problems.

SHTech
08-08-2007, 04:38 PM
ASSP X works on servers with 900-1500 domains with no problems. This is all matters of resources (CPU/RAM/HDD speed) mostly. But as ASSP itself is single threaded it can't work at full potential.

gabriel68
08-09-2007, 03:36 AM
On the countrary I love ASSP right for this ... single threaded !
ASSP use about 4%-8% cpu to process about 10 smtp connections in a single thread . Spamassassin uses about 5%-15% per smtp process ! and at the same time ASSP uses only a fraction of cpu (less than 1%) to scan email from virus too (using clamd). All in a single perl thread . This is one of the main advantages of assp over spamassasin.

SHTech
08-09-2007, 03:56 AM
So now imagine how ASSP could work being multi-threaded? Combine its low resources usage with productivity of several (should be controlled at assp.cfg) threads and it would become incredible product then!

gabriel68
08-09-2007, 04:02 AM
I don't need to imagine , it's already working well and over aspectative . Why Fritz should rebuild the code for something which is working well ?

SHTech
08-09-2007, 06:44 AM
Hope it won't be another holy war, but if customers who run plain ASSP (not ASSP X nor ASSP Deluxe) also complain about ASSP speed (and mail loss) on real busy mailserver it means that something is wrong.

It is not about frontends, it is about ASSP itself. It has been said that ASSP made for mid-range servers. DSPAM works better for large server. Perhaps you need to create an installer for it? :)
We have no interest in DSPAM at this moment, however, if there will be demand we definitely create it :)

I'm sure our (yours and mine) knowledge about ASSP are very close as I saw your posts and they are close to what I could have been said as well. There are limitations of ASSP. Especially when it works on these multi-core servers. It can't execute at full on quad core server and it is a great loss.

gabriel68
08-09-2007, 07:40 AM
Only different point of view . Are we talking about assp in general or assp running on cpanel ?. If you read the assp mailing list most of problems are for windows users (where clamd goes often to 100%) and recent days overload problems problems was due to a bug on 1.3.3.1 . What I can see now , is assp running on all my cPanel servers with load between 3% and 8% all the day. Nothing to say about DSPAM never tried it.
assp is not multicore , but there is no need for this . Yesterday I was testing stability of 1.3.3.2(8) also on a quad core server with 1200 accounts and a traffic of about 30000 email day . assp cpu usage was stable around 8% , clamd usage insignificant under 1% . What do you want of better ?

SHTech
08-10-2007, 08:56 AM
> ...stable around 8% , clamd usage insignificant under 1% . What do you want of better ?

To clarify, do you mean CPU usage (visible via 'top' command) or whole system load average (visible via 'uptime')?

SHTech
10-02-2007, 02:42 AM
ASSP X 1.5.0 released.

It contains important (for some customers) feature: ability to add custom additions to ASSP X files & rules.

For example, if you have backup MX server and have ASSP X at both you need to add each other IP to their settings. Now just create file /etc/asspx/files.append/ispip.txt and add there your backup MX server IP and force ASSP or ASSP X (better) update to apply this. In future this addition will be applied automatically even if we release updated file!
The same to be done at backup server if it run ASSP X. There you need to add your primary server IP.

It is easy enough but do not hesitate either to contact me for free consulting or order ASSP X install (at http://sultanserver.com site) for customized installation.

Enjoy!

SHTech
10-02-2007, 02:45 AM
Sorry for dupe. Removed.

SHTech
02-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Btw, ASSP X updated to version 1.5.6 with ASSP 1.3.5. It become even more mature and we and our clients are very excited about how ASSP with ASSP X fight the spam!

SHTech
07-16-2008, 06:34 AM
Time is coming and ASSP X is doing better and better. We reached the mark of 1,500 servers already!

As of now we run ASSP 1.3.9 as solid stable version and you are welcome to join the club! Remember, ASSP X is free product while we appreciate any help (hint: PayPal Donation!).

We got more popular because of two things: stability and the golden balance between features and easy to use; paid competitor raised prices dramatically (greedy?) which positively affected ASSP X install base.

Enjoy like we do. Your comments are appreciated. You may send them via PM or email (thread isn't monitored often).

Thank you.

Website Rob
08-18-2008, 08:14 AM
What are the Major differences between ASSP v1.3.5 & v1.3.9?

SHTech
08-18-2008, 09:13 AM
These options are new (comparing 1.3.5(21.5) and 1.3.9(1)):
bccValencePB
CountryCodeBlockedRe
DoCountryBlocking
DoFakedUseLocalDomain
DoGlobalBlack
DoGlobalWhite
globalBlackExpiration
globalClientLicDate
globalClientName
globalClientPass
globalValencePB
globalWhiteExpiration
LocalAddresses_Flat_Domains
MSGIDsigLog
noLogRe
sbSpamLovers
spamSBLog

As you may see there are not so many changes (global black/white lists isn't valuable option - it is paid one). But 1.3.9 more stable according to our tests.