Hi guys I have been thinking if it is technically possible to boot up windows instantly or maybe in few seconds like most cellular phones. Why do we have to wait sooo long for windows to boot up? Can embedded windows do the trick?

( Bill Gates, if you happen to be reading this,please make an OS that boots up faster than a Television set! I will be your first client!! )

My Pocket PC 2002 boots up in 1 second :D

Well..I Heard of someone making something better than windows, but since I messaged him and told him not to bother, your not good enough.. and theres no market, he didnt contact me, but, I Think windows boots quite quickly..

Mine boots in about 15seconds or less...

But then again it is a p4 2.53 with 512mb ram and a big fat ide disk ;)

Just needs someone to make a memory drive, then windows would load quick :)

My windows 98 computer boots in roughly 30 seconds. With an Athlon XP 1800, 7200 RPM hard drive, 512GB DDR memory

If you put windows xp into hibernate ......start> shutdown>hibernate You can switch the pc off and uplug it, when you switch it back on it goes straight back to windows, you can even leaver programs open ......it totally avoids the whole boot up.

I've got a 98 box that creates all cache files on a RAMdrive and starts in < 5 sec :)

Modified Athlon 2k+XP running at 2700, 1.5gb RAM

Very snazzy, you should try it, easy to do :)

-Matt

You are using RAM as a harddrive, that is very very dangerous.
RAM has higher chance of burning up and when it does your contents are gone.

Originally posted by RackNine
I've got a 98 box that creates all cache files on a RAMdrive and starts in < 5 sec :)

Modified Athlon 2k+XP running at 2700, 1.5gb RAM

Very snazzy, you should try it, easy to do :)

-Matt

Roy,

You are using RAM as a harddrive, that is very very dangerous.
Not as much as you'd think. I said CACHE, nothing important is dumped into memory (though I'm tinkering with dumping the whole OS into RAM before boot). The existing setup is 100% safe with nothing more lost than a standard 98 crash even in the event of catastrophic failure.

-Matt

when i worked for the council their servers had ram raid arrays for storage like that, and they booted virtually instantly, everything loaded virtually instantly etc. but i really hate to guess what a 10 GB ram raid array cost 10 yrs ago. they were renting a colour laser for 110K pa GBP and they thought that was cheap so lol methinks just a bit expensive. most of my machines are sub 15 seconds to boot except the very older ones in the 500 mhz region.

My p4 1.8 with xp boots in about 5 seconds. But then I have an old (very old) 122mhz and it boots in about a minute. And my 486 boots in a little over 2 minutes.

Racknine, please tell us how you created the setting so that all cache files goes to the RAMdrive?

And Richy, which council are you working for?
They think 110k GPB is cheap for annual laser printer?
Please tell them I will be willing to negotiate a 10 laser printer rental for half that price. HAHAHA
Unless you are talking about 10 years ago, otherwise I think the council is the richy one.

Originally posted by tazd9t9
If you put windows xp into hibernate ......start> shutdown>hibernate You can switch the pc off and uplug it, when you switch it back on it goes straight back to windows, you can even leaver programs open ......it totally avoids the whole boot up.

Nice.. jus' tried that, but it messed up and didnt work for me..

i think it just takes tiem to load all the programs does your cell phone take up even a 1/4 of the memory your comp does i dont think

I just leave mine on 24/7/365 it's on in less than 1 second :)

Boot speed depends very much on what you have in your PC, certain things can slow the boot speed a fair bit e.g. SCSI Cards, ATAPI Drives like Internal Zip plus others.

No idea how long mine takes to boot up, I don't really care as long as it's booted by the time I've finished my breakfast :)

Originally posted by Little_John
I just leave mine on 24/7/365 it's on in less than 1 second :)

lol, same here... I leave it on as long as there is power

my new record is 3months 12 days 2 hrs 42 minutes... this is on a Windows machine that is used at least 16 hours a day with applications like photoshop/illustrator/flash, vc++, games that I played at random times. Pretty damn reliable for a computer running a Microsoft product hehe

Anyways, this computer boots in about 12 seconds from power up, it should take even less but I have two NICs on this computer, although one of the doesn't even take a second to load up, the other one makes the XP boot screen hang until it does a little click then it loads.

Dang,

My win98SE box that i rely on used to do 40+ days of uptime, until i installed internet explorer 6.0. Something about 98SE and IE 6.0 just didn't mix, now im lucky to get 3 days :bawling: stupid windows.

Originally posted by porcupine
Dang,

My win98SE box that i rely on used to do 40+ days of uptime, until i installed internet explorer 6.0. Something about 98SE and IE 6.0 just didn't mix, now im lucky to get 3 days :bawling: stupid windows.

Yea, I was surprised that I could get 5 weeks before on a Windows machine let alone 3 months! It must be luck for me or maybe the setup of my computer fit together nicely enough... *shrug*

My reliable 'ol celeron 300A chip was overclocked to 450mhz and was stable for the longest time, i've had no issues with Windows before IE6.0, frankly i dont understand what they did to kill it all, i'm going to be forced up upgrade to windows 2000 soon i suppose as i cant work with < 2 day uptimes like this :bawling:

Originally posted by alpha


lol, same here... I leave it on as long as there is power

my new record is 3months 12 days 2 hrs 42 minutes... this is on a Windows machine that is used at least 16 hours a day with applications like photoshop/illustrator/flash, vc++, games that I played at random times. Pretty damn reliable for a computer running a Microsoft product hehe

Anyways, this computer boots in about 12 seconds from power up, it should take even less but I have two NICs on this computer, although one of the doesn't even take a second to load up, the other one makes the XP boot screen hang until it does a little click then it loads.

how to check what is machine uptime under widowz
edit : win2k pro

Originally posted by mahinder


how to check what is machine uptime under widowz
edit : win2k pro

Win2000 doesn't come with an easy way of figuring out the uptime as far as I know. You can set a performance monitor counter for it but I think it gives it to you in seconds (not sure). You can also run the following from the command line:

net statistics workstation

and it'll tell you something like 'statistics since... ' and then give you a date and time when the computer was last booted up. But then you'd need to do your own calculations to get to where you want to be.

BUT.... you could just go to the following:
MS Uptime utility (http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/management/uptime/default.asp)
and download microsoft's own uptime utility which runs for the cmdline and it'll give you the info you need.

:D

I normally have atleast 1 windows lockup or crash a day sometimes more.

My Win XP machine boots up within 10 seconds.

Computer specs:
Athlon 1700XP
256 DDR
MSI motherboard (dang, can't remember the product number)
...And practically everything is on board.

Maybe that explains why :D

My new PC is , 2.2ghz P IIII , 512mb ram, 40gb idle disk drive, 20gb disk drive being used, and all the rest of the gumf.. and it takes about 2mins to boot up :(..... And Tetraboy, thats bad if it locksup that often!!

hmm, thats cool:

Using the uptime tool i get:

\\MR_HAPPY has been up for: 35 day(s), 4 hour(s), 43 minute(s), 3 second(s)

And using a Mirc script i get (ran at about the same time):

[Operating System] Platform:[Windows 2K Server SP2] UpTime:[5*Weeks 4*Hours 44*Minutes 43*Seconds]

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it never crashes, intel P3 733 running windows 2000 advanced server SP2 (yeah overkill for a home machine but i like its stability)

and I even got a UPS for home because I got fedup of loosing 5 weeks uptime due to a power spike tripping the fuse. grrr @ power stations.

whow..... over the top xtstrike??

lol the laser was 10 years ago and was a colour that did 96 pages a minute both sides at once if required (no speed penalty) including binding etc etc all nobs on sorta thing. came with its own computer to control it (lol i remember all the stupid job commands like FEE 1 etc) and another puter which stored all the spooled jobs. was pretty state of the art back then but it didnt half knock thru stuff. my fave was the drum printer with a diesel engine to run the paper thru at 3000 lpm i think it was for payroll. noisy thing but roared thru everything. shame it only did letters and numbers etc. im sure now you could buy a replacement printer by lexmark from pc world for 30 quid that would do the same lol. the cartridges would be 200k a pop like but thats life :)

anyone else ever play with a wolfcreek? they were fun. the arms in the center pulling out the tapes and putting them in drives. much more fun then those horrid old reel based things 127 mb and only useful for throwing at f*** off fred the council idiot.

Windows 3.1 on a new system. :D

Linux starts up nice and fast when you remove all the non-essential components during boot. Takes about 6 or so seconds to reach the command line, another 8 seconds or so to startup KDE, which you could do automatically - if like that kind of stuff. ;)

Returning windows 2000 from hibernation is pretty fast, but it seems to become sluggish after a few days of doing this.

Our home computers :

Athlon TB 1000 512MB 7200rpm RAID - ~1.5 minutes WinME
K6-2 500 384MB 5400rpm - ~3 mintutes Win2000 Pro
Athon 650 512MB 5400rpm- ~1 minute WinME

The top one (athlon1000) also crashes at least once an hour, I am about to reformat it and put on a decent OS (win2k). :)

Originally posted by Mester
I am about to reformat it and put on a decent OS (win2k). :)

haha thats my laught for today ;) .. decent OS != Windows ..

:D

Anyone have any tips on making Windows 98 Start up faster...It takes me for ever.. 3 minutes or more cant really remember...

Whoever wanted the uptime program, if you do not want the command line program from MicroSoft, you may use this: http://www.mostuff.com/downloads/uptime.exe , it is 20KB

Originally posted by Marko_P
Anyone have any tips on making Windows 98 Start up faster...It takes me for ever.. 3 minutes or more cant really remember...


Open up C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI

Remove anything that you don't want from the load= and run= spots...

If your OK w/ using regedit

Pop it open and goto

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
-> Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

And then delete the things you don't want to run

Then goto the same paths (i.e. Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run)

for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE as well...

Then clear out your start folder....

That should help a decent amount.

Originally posted by Marko_P
Anyone have any tips on making Windows 98 Start up faster...It takes me for ever.. 3 minutes or more cant really remember... Load up in DOS Prompt with a startup disk in floppy drive type the following:

C:\>A:
C:\>format C:
C:\>Yes

This should make it start up a bit faster.:)

roflmao not nice

Originally posted by iamdave
Load up in DOS Prompt with a startup disk in floppy drive type the following:

C:\>A:
C:\>format C:
C:\>Yes

This should make it start up a bit faster.:)

Hey now... even a *nix fan would know that when you change drives your pwd changes :D...

But, the correct command for such an action (ONE THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING :D) is...


A: [enter]
command.com [transfer OS control to A: to avoid error problems
when havoc occurs]
deltree /y C: [enter .. recursive delete w/out prompt]

format C: /q/X [quick format and dismount drive... if you want to
be really mean /A:512 /N:5 = allocation sizes of
512kb and force creation of only 5 sectors.....]



As I said... these commands are for entertainment (i.e. look don't touch) purposes only :D

Aside from horrible commands...

Here is a decent website about speeding up boot times

http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/boot/

My Win2k Box has an uptime of: 1 day, 09 hrs, 21 mins, 54 seconds...

This is how I measure "uptime". I have the "show icon in taskbar when connected" checked for my NIC in, Control Panel > Network > "LAN"...

I think we are digressing here.
The main topic is how to make windows boot up instantly.
I can tell it is lowly becoming an Uptime discussion now.

Originally posted by Studio64


Hey now... even a *nix fan would know that when you change drives your pwd changes :D...

But, the correct command for such an action (ONE THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING :D) is...


A: [enter]
command.com [transfer OS control to A: to avoid error problems
when havoc occurs]
deltree /y C: [enter .. recursive delete w/out prompt]

format C: /q/X [quick format and dismount drive... if you want to
be really mean /A:512 /N:5 = allocation sizes of
512kb and force creation of only 5 sectors.....]



As I said... these commands are for entertainment (i.e. look don't touch) purposes only :D My way, works just fine, your way may work, but I have used my technique, 5 or 6 times, successfuly.