For all you bandwith hogs out there: :D


Technical Specs:
Pentium4 1.7GHz or higher - 1 GB RAM - 40GB HDD

Connectivity:
10mbit dedicated connection
Cogent XP*

Extras:
APC reboot port

Pricing:
389$/month - no setup fee**

Info:
*Cogent XP
This is a product offered by us exclusively. We are on a Cogent POP here in Denver and f.e. the last 3 months had 100% confirmed uptime. In order to ensure you of the quality of this product, we apply our "99.9% SLA" to this product also as we do with our Yipes, Aleron and/or our BGP routed multihomed as well as our IRC clients.
That is why we call it "Cogent XP (Cogent eXPerience) as it is not at all comparable to the "normal Cogent" available. Check our SLA for this.

**Pricing
Mail us at sales@starhost.hm as our billing system is not online yet.

Additional info like f.e. a pingable IP wil be added shortly, had to get this offer out tonight :)

What's the cost to add a hard drive?

Originally posted by mas3000
What's the cost to add a hard drive?

+40GB HDD 29$/month - no setup
+512MB RAM 19$/month - no setup

:)

So what if we wanted just 100gb? or 300gb of bandwidth?

instead of unmetered (i beleive that is what you're offering?)

and do you have an IP?

Do you accept paypal

Originally posted by clocker1996
So what if we wanted just 100gb? or 300gb of bandwidth?

instead of unmetered (i beleive that is what you're offering?)

and do you have an IP?

Do you accept paypal

"Normal" dedicated offers per GB traffic are launched soon (in ~10 days). They will come with 300GB and 500GB bandwith and be Yipes/Aleron/CogentXP BGP routed with APC port. We will offer Athon XPs and Pentium4.

IP you can ping and/or ARIN WhoIs: 209.213.202.168

Yes we gladly accept PayPal :)

Nice offer!

Originally posted by ShareFile
For all you bandwith hogs out there: :D


In order to ensure you of the quality of this product, we apply our "99.9% SLA" to this product also as we do with our Yipes, Aleron and/or our BGP routed multihomed as well as our IRC clients.
That is why we call it "Cogent XP (Cogent eXPerience) as it is not at all comparable to the "normal Cogent" available. Check our SLA for this.



Please explain what a normal Cogent connection is? There is one Cogent period. Your Cogent line is no different than anyone else's Cogent line so how can it be different?

Originally posted by ShareFile

IP you can ping and/or ARIN WhoIs: 209.213.202.168


I did a traceroute to your IP provided, 209.213.202.168, and it shows up all paths taken go through Yipes instead of Cogent. Is this pure Cogent-only bandwidth of multihomed with other providers?

@rastoma: Yes it is different indeed. For example did we have 100% confirmed uptime in the last 3 months and also do those "long tracerts" (>800ms) not occur for us. This is because we are directly connected to a Cogent POP (which cost us a fortune in fiber btw). In order to back this statement up we give our 99.9% SLA for "CogentXP", something we would/could NEVER do with "normal" Cogent.

@ck: Clocker asked for a IP of our multihomed connection where the "per GB" offers will be in in ~10 days.
A pingable CogentXP IP will be available in the next 48-72 hours. We are working overtime in the colo atm installing the switches and other stuff, then we have to do intensive testing.

Originally posted by ShareFile
@rastoma: Yes it is different indeed. For example did we have 100% confirmed uptime in the last 3 months and also do those "long tracerts" (>800ms) not occur for us.

Can you please point me to where these other Cogent connections have >800ms pings/traces are that you're talking about?

Originally posted by rastoma


Can you please point me to where these other Cogent connections have >800ms pings/traces are that you're talking about?


You don't understand. I believe and experienced that Cogent is quite good everywhere. Some people on this board f.e. are talking about 1500 pings and "hours of downtime" ... not me. Cogent has been VERY good to me; read my reply in the disussion thread about Cogent going on atm in Discussion Forums...

Plesk, ensim or cpanel included? If not, what are the monthly charges with this offer?

Thanks in advance. It does look like an attractive deal.

Ari

Originally posted by Aristotle
Plesk, ensim or cpanel included? If not, what are the monthly charges with this offer?

Thanks in advance. It does look like an attractive deal.

Ari

We don't offer control panels. We are specialized on servers and focus only on this. That's why we have such a variety of products ;)

WE DO however install all available CPs for free for our clients :)

So can we presume your threads flaming RackShack are just a competitor trying to get more business?

Sharefile... I'm trying to understand this "CogentXP" you talk about..

You say "This is because we are directly connected to a Cogent POP (which cost us a fortune in fiber btw)."

But that’s what everyone does, no matter what provider you use. You get a local loop which is a strand of fiber from your building to whichever providers pop (point of presence) that you want to get to....

So to take your statement in the technical terms you rented a local loop from someone to go from your building to a pop that cogent is located at, and then cogent gave you a 100mbit or 1000mbit drop to your fiber at which you located a router or other piece of equipment to merge the two....

So the only difference between you and someone else is that sometimes people locate in a building where cogent already is, which means cogent (or someone else) paid to have the loop run. I'm just trying to figure out what makes it special since you really haven't done anything special....

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
So can we presume your threads flaming RackShack are just a competitor trying to get more business?

So may I presume that your are a super moron who has nothing better to do then post such crap in the most unapropriate place. Get a life dude!

Nice offer ya got there Robert...:)

Easy, easy guys...

Matt was a bit over the line in this thread, and Robert is a honest staight-forward guy.

Patients and understandings are the better parts of virtue....

Peter

I'd like to hear a response to DanielP's post...

You can presume what you like.
When I asked why you flamed RackShack continually before, and if you were a competitor, you blatantly denied it. But as we have seen, this is not the case.

Originally posted by FDrive
I'd like to hear a response to DanielP's post...

So would I :)

This is just my opinion and I'm talking in general, however, it amazes me how some hosts on these forums just love to attack other hosts who post offers in the advertising forums. I personally believe these attacks just show how unprofessional some hosts can be.

Just my 2 cents.

Issue 1 "CogentXP":
Ok there are 2 faces to this.
The first is that we are indeed a bit "more connected" to Cogent and before I post anything that is not accurate - I admit that as sales I don't know what my onsite technical manager knows but I will learn and post here again as soon as I do.
The second is the plain eXPerience we had with "our" Cogent. That is where the XP comes from btw :)
Ok, the thing is, that people here on WHT have posted several times that Cogent is this and Cogent is that. Downtime, huge packet loss etc. Now I know some people here better, bummer or porcupine f.e. that use Cogent and are happy with it. And of course they did not experience those horror scenarios people posted here. The same goes for us, only that we had a PERFECT eXPerience with Cogent f.e. having 100% uptime in the last 3 months... our Yipes pipe was 2 times down since them btw FYI
Anyway and this is why we are even able to apply a 99.9% SLA to our Cogent pipe and therefore call it CogentXP as it is in NO WAY the "Cogent" some people think after reading those posts here on WHT.

Issue 2 "soextreme-matt":
I can only second Hostworkz.com. I do not deny I flamed RackShack in the past and I had very good reason to do so and was 100% right. I also do not have a problem with matts statement actually cause if THIS is how he feels then it is perfectly ok with me and I understand. BUT posting something like this as a reply to my OFFER is absolutely inapropriate and shows a total lack of respect and a very ill-mannered behavior which is totally inacceptible. I will not even discuss this now wether he is right or wrong, the POINT is that posting this crap HERE is just stupid. In my eyes, from now on I will think of "soextreme-matt" as a foolish man.

Ok, this is how I understand your explanation with out the sales jargon

1) You pretty much have a point A < - > B pipe to a cogent pop... fairly standard as that’s how most everyone has to get connectivity from their provider. If you have it running on a sonnet loop or have run several loops to ensure redundancy I don't know but its hard to make a loop "special" now a days.

2) Over the past 3 months you've not seen any problems with cogent so to sound cool you called the connection Cogent XP but it’s really just a standard cogent line. The problem is that most cogent issues happen outside of the primary pop that your connected to, which are routing and overselling issues, so even if your direct connection is somewhat better it can't change the fact that you still have to route via the cogent network to get places and that is where most people find issue is in their routing and peering points.

3) Your placing your 99.9% SLA on a 3 month basis when most SLA's take a year or more to get a "true" picture... so while its nice that your doing this I think the experience is limited to make a full decision as most providers are like a wave. Their good for a few months then problems happen; they fix those and their good for a few more months. It varies with the supply vs. demand of the provider. Someone could easily come in and use 3gbps off cogent which would probably kill their peering links and force them to upgrade some of the peering which takes time to do and thus causes problems. Just things like that which can throw a monkey wrench into the equation so to speak.

Just making sure everyone is able to understand the sales language and that something new from cogent hasn't snuck out and took us all by surprise. :)

Originally posted by DanielP

1) You pretty much have a point A < - > B pipe to a cogent pop... fairly standard as that’s how most everyone has to get connectivity from their provider.

2) Over the past 3 months you've not seen any problems with cogent so to sound cool you called the connection Cogent XP but it’s really just a standard cogent line.

Just making sure everyone is able to understand the sales language and that something new from cogent hasn't snuck out and took us all by surprise. :)

I agree with Daniel and thus why I first asked the question. I am not trying to bash, flame, cause problems with your offer or anything. Yes I can be considered a competitor and thus my only motive is to point out that you're trying to mislead end users into thinking that by going with your Cogent connection is going to give them better connections than anyone else's.

You keep talking about SO MANY posts about bad Cogent connections but yet you're not showing me where these people are saying that. Everyone knows that Cogent is 'wholesale' sorta speak. It is not the absolute highest quality always. But NO ONE has a better Cogent connection than the next and I don't care if someone has a better deal than me but it's also very unfair to try to get people to think you have something that others can't deliver. I have had 100% uptime in the last 3 months of Cogent in my facility (plus we get praised for the fast connections and low ping times compared to cost)... in fact it's probably more than 5-6 months of 100% uptime.... BUT a little over 3 months ago we did have some Cogent downtime... why? Because of a router problem on OUR side. Could I still advertise we've had 6 months of 100% uptime? Some would think so but wouldn't be right.

Again nobody likes competitors jumping on another and your offer is REALLY good! No doubt you have an excellent setup with what you're doing and you are professional and will do well... there's always more business out there than anyone 1 place can handle :) Just don't try to make people think you have something more than you really do.

Originally posted by rastoma


I agree with Daniel and thus why I first asked the question. I am not trying to bash, flame, cause problems with your offer or anything. Yes I can be considered a competitor and thus my only motive is to point out that you're trying to mislead end users into thinking that by going with your Cogent connection is going to give them better connections than anyone else's.

You keep talking about SO MANY posts about bad Cogent connections but yet you're not showing me where these people are saying that. Everyone knows that Cogent is 'wholesale' sorta speak. It is not the absolute highest quality always. But NO ONE has a better Cogent connection than the next and I don't care if someone has a better deal than me but it's also very unfair to try to get people to think you have something that others can't deliver. I have had 100% uptime in the last 3 months of Cogent in my facility (plus we get praised for the fast connections and low ping times compared to cost)... in fact it's probably more than 5-6 months of 100% uptime.... BUT a little over 3 months ago we did have some Cogent downtime... why? Because of a router problem on OUR side. Could I still advertise we've had 6 months of 100% uptime? Some would think so but wouldn't be right.

Again nobody likes competitors jumping on another and your offer is REALLY good! No doubt you have an excellent setup with what you're doing and you are professional and will do well... there's always more business out there than anyone 1 place can handle :) Just don't try to make people think you have something more than you really do.

yeah exactly
just because you had 3 months of good experiences wiht cogent doesnt mean its different than others or normal cogent

Let me see if I got this right. My hosting dictionary needs the following new definition:

co·gent XP

noun.

1. A cogent line which has had 3 months uptime

Nice offer.

Just a few questions.

(1) Do you allow adult materials?

(2) Is it really dedicated 10mb/s line (like RS does) or this 10mb/s line is share with other servers as well?

Thanks.

Originally posted by maxbear
Nice offer.

Just a few questions.

(1) Do you allow adult materials?

(2) Is it really dedicated 10mb/s line (like RS does) or this 10mb/s line is share with other servers as well?

Thanks.


1) You can host anything you like as long as you don't get me into jail :D

2) Yep is is really dedicated. You have 10mbit at your disposal ALL THE TIME ;)

@ a:\
LOL

Robert, you seem to have avoided the questions posed by Daniel P, are you going to answer them?

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Robert, you seem to have avoided the questions posed by Daniel P, are you going to answer them?

I will do that when I decide that it is time to do so. Why don't you flame me some more? I have gotten used to it by now. And now you disappoint me, again... :/

I'm not flaming you, I am just interested in the answer.

I think everyones Cogent is about the same. I been on Cogent for 6 months and had no downtime. I am in a colo in Santa Clara with dedicated line from Cogent and it's been great. I just have more rackspace than I need.

When I first read your thread with CogentXP I thought Cogent was selling a seperate more expensive plan. It is kinda misleading.

What about IP's?

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
I'm not flaming you, I am just interested in the answer.

yes
i am also interested

I dont think he will answer them though
I think he's just going to let the thread die down and forget about it

any update on this???
Or any one bought it?

Wait a second, so as a Microsoft Authorized solution provider I can sell Microsoft Windows 2000 XP simply because it hasn't crashed on my servers?

Isn't that copyright infringment?

Aren't you taking the name of a large provider and pilfering it by repackaging it and calling it something slightly different as to imply that it is better than other providers with the very same thing?

That is unsavory marketing practices and I am sure if this entire context and what you were trying to do here was presented for cogent management they would take serious issue with your marketing practices.

This will ultimately confuse customers and you affect other providers using the very same services by repackaging a product and calling it something else.

That is just simply not cool.