Hi.

I'm looking for a reliable 'private label' reseller plan.

By 'private label' I mean here resekker plans in which the host went into some effort to 'remain in the background', in what concerns server name, IP brand, etc., in short everything which helps to enhance the privacy of a reseller.

I'm trying to get an overview on what's out there these days, so if you have any names you feel like throwing in, please go right ahead. It would be great if this thread could result in an extensive list of such services.

Same goes for your experiences with them as well, if any.

.preciate it.
satch

i have heard of ones that do that...but they have a startup fee of 500 or more

I would hope that every reseller host uses anonymous server names and nameservers. Is this not the case?

I would hope that every reseller host uses anonymous server names and nameservers. Is this not the case?
Not all of them, no. I can think of many big (or at least well known) providers that use their own company name in the servernames.


Simon

Yeh many hosts have their own name due to it being quicker to get the reseller serup than having to create nameservers so they do this on request.

Hello satch22,

not sure if I understand what you are asking.

Are you asking for private label dedicated machines or just a reseller account on a shared machine ?

If reseller , do you think its worth the extra effort and would you be willing to pay for it ?

Are you aware of any DC or service provider that would be "rebranding" the networks IP for a reseller which might just as well cancel the order the next day ?

Without going into too much detail I feel like asking for a private label network is probably asking for to much trouble for a "reseller" (in general).

That is unless you are willing to pay all parties involved a nice amount of cash my guess would be its not going to happen soon ;-)

However having said this I am aware of a company in Tokyo / Japan which seems to offer this service (one of our partners).

Not sure if this would help. Prices would be at cheapest rate like 10$ per IP and you can only order in blocks from 8 IPs and up.

Again as I said unless you have a healthy pocket I guess its not going to happen anytime soon, but I hope you find the info useful.

With 2 exceptions we are providing those private label services since some time to our clients in Japan.

1) Not for resellers on shared machines
2) We would get your own network IPs which would involve a certain overhead.

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3) We do this only for long term clients and/or make sure we have some additional docs on hand which clearly identifies the parties requesting the service to avoid spam, scam and unlawful issues.


Best regards

hi nils

Are you asking for private label dedicated machines or just a reseller account on a shared machine ?
reseller.



do you think its worth the extra effort and would you be willing to pay for it ?
I wasn't aware that such efforts are so costly.

i've seen hosts in the past where the domain name/site selling the reseller plans isn't the same as the domain name of the server hosting the reseler accounts.

i've seen others that use yet another domain name for their parent nameservers, and leave the site belonging to that domain name blank.

seen those too who use privacy protection to register these domains.

seen those where the Co. stated in the IP whois isn't the name of the Co. selling the plans.

depending on the DC, sometimes there's options as for IP brand, (abuse handle, use of 'residencial adress' remark), and I've seen hosts that make use of these when available.


i figured none of the above to be too costly, and I was curious to hear what is available in this respect, and perhaps in other related aspects i didn't think of.


I hope you find the info useful.
yes, I did, thanks !
i'm unsure though whether were talking about the exact same thing.
i'll msg you in private.

cheers
satch

Private label reseller plans are very common (although some of the lower-end, larger hosts they don't have private label plans).

I wouldn't say that there's too much effort involved, especially for the reseller who's signing up. You shouldn't have any problem finding a private label reseller host. And if you're unsure if a host has private label plans, just ask them.

Good luck finding a private label host! :)

There are very few additional costs involved:
1 extra domain for root nameservers / hostname / rDNS
Renting IP space

I would say check the offers section for a reseller plan you like and ask the host a few questions:
What is the server's hostname?
What domain are the root nameservers on?

Also, lookup the server's IP on DomainTools.com
Finally, run a Traceroute with "tracert" through the command prompt to check for the host's name.

It may also be worth asking for your own IP to be seperate from the other accounts on that server - you should enquire about the cost of this.

There are quite a few hosts that offer this. I'd find a reseller host that interests you, and then ask them if they offer this service.

Most resellers today are white label and offer various tools to help keep their company anonymous to your customers. I would recommend buying dedicated IP addresses to further your anonimity from the reseller provider.

As a reseller provider, I cannot think of any legitmate reasons what a provider would find it difficult to provide anonymous services...

As a reseller provider, I cannot think of any legitmate reasons what a provider would find it difficult to provide anonymous services...

Agreed completely! In fact, offering this service actually appeals to potential customers, so why not?

I think this request should be easy to fill as I am sure most hosts will try and help their customers out in this way.

Well I must say, good luck to you. You have had quite a few great minds give their opinions.

thank you all for your replies!

a special reason why noone recommended any company in particular ?

cheers and thanks
satch..

Really, Most of the guys run there own company including me. Its up for you to decide.

Really, Most of the guys run there own company including me. Its up for you to decide.
but still some one should give some link or suggestion about any company.

Maybe somone will, but hosts cannot provide their own links on this forum.

For a reseller the best cover you are likely to get is Private Nameservers. In your first post you would be asking you host to rebrand their whole network with your name.

well its quite hard to re-brand whole network .. but i think every reseller should use anonymous network name .. as they are reselling there services .. eventually any smart customer will get it from where we are getting our services.

Which is really bad for any reseller, because words spread very quickly

wantingawebsite:

In your first post you would be asking you host to rebrand their whole network with your name.

that would be quite a misunderstanding. :)

to tell you the truth, I had trouble deciding what to call this thread.
is there any 'official' term for what i try to circumscribe in my second post ?

- domain name/site selling the reseller plans isn't the same as the domain name of the server hosting the reseller accounts.

- generic domain name also for the parent nameservers, and leaving the site belonging to that domain name blank.

- use of privacy protection to register these domain(s).

- the company name appearing in the IP whois isn't the name of the company selling the plans (which could be either a parent company or a branch, etc.)

etc.
(not sure if this list is complete, i'm just listing what comes to mind)

note also that if the last point was well done and the two names were kept tidily apart, also with google in mind, there wouldn't be much of a brand issue in the first place, i guess ..

cheers
satch