what online billing systems do you guys use? and why do you think their better than the rest?

h-spheres's billing system.
and its better then the rest because its built into my control panel :)

I use WHNBilling. I like it because it is very simple to use and it does a great job. I like it better because I receive better support then I did with one other billing system I tried.

Andrew

I built my own and programmed it into ensim :)

We use good old ModernBill

Revecom [aka Paysystems.com] suits me just fine. They're bringing out a new control panel soon too. I've been emailing them every day for a month asking for a "Client's notes" link for each account. So you never know, that might be in the new version. :D

We are installing modernbill tommorow. Having alot of darn trouble with Zend though.

ModernBIll working fine here.

Who among you guys have tried myInvoice from widgetmonkey.com?

Please advise.

Thanks.

:)

Moving onto phpManager.

Modernbill here :)

ModernBill here.

modernbill as well, and we love it.

-Steven

My own custom developed script.

paysystems, but have modernbill - just need to find time in the day to get it set up and tested.

Greg Moore

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AlaskanGreyFox: anyway, later kid, i dont need your business, please take it elswhere

That's not nice. :eek:

Looks like i can edit this since Chicken actually did his job :)

Check out the features of WHNB at http://webhostingbilling.com

Hi,

just like to throw in my tupence worth :)

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AlaskanGreyFox: our system is worth alot more then Modernbill
AlaskanGreyFox: you get what you pay for, ever heard of that?
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Just simply saying that will put off a lot of customers. Although it is okay to say that your system is worth a lot more than "other" client managers on the market, I would never stoop as low as to actually mentioning one of your competitors. That is very unprofessional and bad business practice. I understand what you say about AIM/ICQ being personal, but still, do you have to resort to these tactics?

Regards,

Locutus

AlaskanWolf, I think your replies are very unprofessional...

The chat that was posted was never meant to be posted public, so take it how you want. I will not defend anything that anyone posts via AIM or any sort.

Our system is worth alot more then what we sell it for, unfortunately people have placed us in the same threshold as moderbill. If you compare both systems, there's no comparison, we both (and this has been discussed many times before which lead to a flame war) focus on different markets. Even I have seen a limited demo of Modernbill, our system is NOT comparable with theirs. They have features we don't, we have features they don't. Their system is priced different, our system is priced differently.

12 months ago people realized this, as of today, people in WHT have done over and over again, placed us with Modernbill and PHPManager. I have continued and will continued to state our stance. When customers email us about what's favorable in our system compared to modernbill or any other system for that matter, I tell them they need to make their own decision on that, since we feel its like comparing apples and oranges.

I will not post any more responses to this post so that the original poster does not get angry for this going off trail.

Other then that, I gatta run, I wont be posting in WHT any longer as I will be out of town for the next 4 months


Luminance, im very glad you feel that way :)

Hi,

Our system is worth alot more then what we sell it for

It may well be, and I'm not saying that it's not, but what you DON'T do is stoop to the level where you actually mention a competitor.

It's not that I'm trying to bash you or something, but seeing how you react on several things makes me turn away from your service / products...

Gary forgive me for saying so but you sound like a real di*k. Your level of tone is very condesending and unprofessional. I was looking at your product and it seems very nice but one thing I should point out is that you were a bit rude in your post/chat regarding the kid as you have called him and there is no need for that.

I understand you may be a little intolerant of newbies but I think it would not only help your WHT image but the image of your company/product a lot more if you took a more positive attitude. Good luck.

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Other then that, I gatta run, I wont be posting in WHT any longer as I will be out of town for the next 4 months
How do you get away for 4mths and run a web hosting business?? I can only dream. :)

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so wait... Why did you change your 'handle' to MarkG again? and why are you hiding the other 'handle' you used for longer ?

Is it just me or does it seem like you created this new 'handle' just to anonymously help with the flame in this thread... have you read this thread? http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?&threadid=59021

I know Gary personally and I chat with him at least a little everyday. He is a good guy who understands how things work and is simply tired of seeing so many 'youngsters' who think they can purchase a $20/mo. bulk reselling account and rule the world with it or even seeing so many people who think they can purchase a $99/mo. dedicated celeron/duron server and rule the universe with that. Many dedicated and hard-working hosts here realize that a lot of those 'small-starting-out hosts-without-any-dedication-except-for-this-summer' (not all of them are but there are these kinds of hosts) that come to WHT thinking that if they win the favor of few WHT members, they can become successful - is making a huge mistake in their train of thought and business marketing. I'm even tired of seeing the lack of dedication I see in some hosts who 'go-out-of-business' over a period of a week because those who started it just got bored with it... 'ooh, lets just sell the 2 customers I have, the design, the domain, etc and get the hell outta dodge'

I was just reading this thread and was shocked at how many random people attack a well-established business and its software. First of all, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anywhere on the WHNBilling web site that says 'if you have further questions, please contact me through AIM'. All I see is email address, a helpdesk system, fax number, and a mailing address. So, failing to recognize the normal channels provided for questions was a mistake. So using AIM to ask him a question that can be answered by just reading the site was another mistake.

... I don't believe that he will be receiving much business in the coming months. None as a result of this site at least. And you can be sure I will keep this thread handy in case anyone should happen to ask about WWW-hosting or web hosting billing software just to make sure he doesn't get any new cusomters.
I find that to be the funniest thing I read today (so far). You seem to think that WHT is the center market of web hosting and thats where all the real successful hosting companies get their customers... oh geez!

well, if your 'old handle' already has a company name and URL in its signature, I hope you good luck while you focus your marketing on WHT advertising forums ;)

Paypal;)

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Originally posted by shaun2222
what online billing systems do you guys use? and why do you think their better than the rest?


I use my own billing system developed in PHP and Perl. It integrates with 2checkout.com and an ACT!2000 databse. It outputs a CSV file that I can import into the ACT database with the click of a mouse... I like it because it stores billing information OFFLINE -- where it's safe. I don't think I would ever store customer info in a MySQL table or the likes.

Originally posted by FDrive
I like it because it stores billing information OFFLINE -- where it's safe. I don't think I would ever store customer info in a MySQL table or the likes.
What happens if someone steals your PC?

Check out the features of WHNB at http://webhostingbilling.com

With that attitude I sure hope you dont get struck down in a sudden burst of wind from god. Good luck because your gonna need it. Stop being so rude. This board isnt a flame piece and this has gone way off topic. :eek:

Back on topic, I have heard very good things about 2checkout.com and they seem to have a fairly painless setup. You might want to look into doing a paypal payment also. This is only an option. Billing software doesnt have to be the only way you collect payment as it may be expensive and overkill to start with.

Hey James, I didn't start the flame war, just defending myself, if you don't like the way I defend myself, sorry for you, there's nothing I am ashamed of in my posts. If you don't have the balls to say what's on your mind, why bother saying anything at all?

If my words change the way you view me or my company, sorry for that, nothing much i can do at this point now can I. If people want to hide behind their screen names, thats fine with me (IE: Mark)

True good point I suppose. :)

now, as you said, why doesnt everyone get back to the post and stop the flames any further.

I am sure he (FDrive) has a backup.

We are also thinking of developing our own billing system - probably a simplier one for our own simple use. An integration with 2checkout or revecom may be an option.

FDrive, will it be alright if you share a little ideas for us? But, if you choose to keep it a secret, I will certainly understand.

Thanks.

:)


Originally posted by Aussie Bob

What happens if someone steals your PC?

I was going to do a change over also from my current billing system but seeing how rude people representing this software are. i just thought " FORGET ABOUT IT "


rude rude rude do your self a favour and just stop posting in this thread and edit out your past commensts!

Good luck

enough!!!!

I have used em all..

Here are the low downs..

ModernBill = lots of features, lots of bugs. If you have more than 3000 accounts, don't even think about using this system.. lots of headaches once problems start.

WHB = very stable and fast billing system with all the features you'll need.. Missing just a few small features which I hear will be in the next version.

ubersmith = stable, with the guarantee that nothing will break because everything is managed. If you have over 1000 accounts I recommend using ubersmith or WHB!

Choppy, it may be one thing to post in forums and start flame wars, which lately more and more people are tending to do towards me, its another thing with customers

We treat every customer with respect and satisfaction, just look at the posts now and in the past that prove that.

Maybe I do have a tenancy to say what's on my tongue, but its alot better then saying nothing at all.

Day in and day out the mods complain about my attitude, well im sorry that they are so near sided (Chicken specially) for not seeing the people who provoke such responses.

I been on this board for 2 years now and never have I had to deal with such kiddies posts attempting to bash me.

Should I apologize? Yes, to a few people I should, if they want to contact me directly, sure I will give them an apology, but when people start attacking me, I have no other choice then to defend myself.

To the boyz (or whatever) yes i apologize to him since it seems we were on two levels when we spoke on chat, I use chat only as a personal queue and will never show the customer service we offer, or I have offered to my customers since 1996.

I have never *ever* used AIM or any other chat program to answer questions with our services or products, and that will not change. If you want to IM me, it better be on a personal level, or I will tell you what I tell everyone else, go though the proper channels.

Should I have told that person that? yes, but I thought from what other source said he was very easy going and had a great sense of humor, it seems to me that he had neither, The chat is and never was authorized to be made pubic, its a private chat between two people, No where on our site does it state to contact us via AIM or such.

www.clientexec.com is another one worth watching in the future.

Cheers

Gary

I understand were you are coming from and i agree that there is to much bashing in this forum full stop.

But everytime you are on a forum, in a chat or anywhere else in real life or online you are representing your company.

I know what you mean how you would approax people on chat etc when they are your friends but remember one thing, everyone is a potential customer my friend.

I am happy you are willing to apologise to people at least it shows that you did wrong and you are admiting it ! This is not a bad thing either just shows you can take it on the chin.

Kind regards

universal2001

Thanks for your insight.

I'm with Gary on this one :D If you plan on flaming his company, he has his rights to defend it...

so don't cry over spilt milk :stickout

From what i have heard ModernBill is a good program. But i have never used it before.

I setup my own system to handle billing and integrated it with our site order form to accounts are automatically setup and billed on signup. It works well and i have integrated it with all the features i need including our payment gateway.

An advantage of setting your own system up is that you know exactly how it works, and so if you encounter any problems it should be easy enough to fix. But the downside is if you need advanced technical support you aint got any :(


Anyway good luck, if MB is withing your budget go for it i say.