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sooha 02-15-2007, 04:55 AM I am wanting to start a Game Server Hosting Company but I don't know what to do :(
I know I have to rent a Dedicated Server but after that I am lost. I'm hoping that some of you here will be able to Help me =]
1. How do you run Game Servers on a NEW Dedicated Server? (Mostly CS1.6 and CS:SOURCE)
2. How do you change the FPS of the server and the tick rate for the Source Servers?
Thank you!
ukgaz 02-15-2007, 05:53 AM From what i know your choosing to attempt to get into a very saturated sector of the market, have you seriously thought this through?
if you wanted to get started with source servers have a look here http://srcds.com/
[inx]Olly 02-15-2007, 07:40 PM Really, you do need to think this through.
Game server clients are for the most part unforgiving, and expect you to have an expert level of knowledge.
I suggest you rent a dedi, practise a bit, then think of selling a service.
RS|John 02-15-2007, 11:26 PM I am wanting to start a Game Server Hosting Company but I don't know what to do :(
I know I have to rent a Dedicated Server but after that I am lost. I'm hoping that some of you here will be able to Help me =]
1. How do you run Game Servers on a NEW Dedicated Server? (Mostly CS1.6 and CS:SOURCE)
2. How do you change the FPS of the server and the tick rate for the Source Servers?
Thank you!
not to be rude but as previously said the market is extremly over saturated. If you plan to start a company it helps to know what your doing. Obviously everyone starts somewhere but basic knowledge on game server tweaking such as changing the fps in source and I am wanting to start a Game Server Hosting Company but I don't know what to do :( are reasons you should slow it down a bit. Have you considered trying to get a job at a already established GSP in order to build up your experiace? Also if you do decide to do this have the dedi for atleast a month and work on edit the configs and what not for servers so you get a basic idea of how it actually works before you start charging clients.
ukgaz 02-16-2007, 04:22 AM Olly']Really, you do need to think this through.
Game server clients are for the most part unforgiving, and expect you to have an expert level of knowledge.
I suggest you rent a dedi, practise a bit, then think of selling a service.
Heard this from you before olly with your unforgiving ones ;)
[inx]Olly 02-16-2007, 10:01 AM Well it's true. There's no beating about he bush regarding it.
Game server clients expect high uptime, and constant attention.
Be prepared for them to delete mystery files, not tell you or attempt to hint where they've broken the server, then scream because the server is down.
We've many many awesome gamers as clients, but some are a real difficulty to handle.
If you aren't prepared, you'll get burnt!
RS|John 02-16-2007, 05:24 PM ukgaz i think you are underestimating this. You are attempting to start a company that’s the point. Clients expect you to know what you are doing and to pay constant attention to them unfortunately because the way the internet works you are not going to find 1 guy to do everything for you and be completely trust worthy. The best technician I ever had I found trying to order pot seeds from EU.... So if you don’t know what you are doing don’t expect to find someone who is going to help you out as much as you think.
Consider this....
Owner of coke a cola drops some money down to start his company however has no experience with the soda bottling business and has no idea what he is doing is the company going to just work out or is it going to be a flop and cause him a huge loss of money? A company is a company no matter how you look at it or how much money you are investing or what industry you are getting into... Like olly said get the dedi and practice before you try something like this. Then you say you have been through that and you still need help? So now you want to start a company? That’s not going to help you anymore.... Plain and simple rethink your idea and gain some experience in what you are doing before you start a COMPANY without any knowledge of the business or experience.
sgarbus 02-16-2007, 05:28 PM The best technician I ever had I found trying to order pot seeds from EU....Thanks for telling a community of this size what type of company you're running. :agree:
Patrick67 02-16-2007, 06:29 PM Owning and running a GSP is not easy and as they all say, way over saturated. Clients pay for expertise and knowledge in the games you host. They do not want excuses when they mess up a cfg file or the server crashes, they want it back up 5 minutes ago. ;) Might want to get some experience under your belt before you open up shop along with a good business plan.
RS|John 02-16-2007, 07:43 PM Thanks for telling a community of this size what type of company you're running. :agree:
Yeah, the fact that i caught him and the act and fired him that secound was preety good if you ask me. It was by chance i logged onto the server at the same time he was doing it.... Just clearing that up a bit you can't predict what your staff does you can only prevent it from happening in the future and by firing him I did that what would you of done steve?
RS|John 02-16-2007, 07:45 PM BTW that staff member is now working with a huge game server company however im preety sure he learned his lesson with me.
sgarbus 02-16-2007, 07:50 PM Yeah, the fact that i caught him and the act and fired him that secound was preety good if you ask me. It was by chance i logged onto the server at the same time he was doing it.... Just clearing that up a bit you can't predict what your staff does you can only prevent it from happening in the future and by firing him I did that what would you of done steve?Actually, if you had a more-proper sentence structure, I could have better understood what you were trying to say.
The best technician I ever had I found trying to order pot seeds from EU....This can be interpreted as:
1) You found him in your attempt to buy them.
2) He was trying to buy them (after taking a closer read).
So, next time you say something in those regards, phrase it like this:
I caught the best technician I ever had trying to order pot seeds from EU...
RS|John 02-16-2007, 07:57 PM Sorry for the poor sentence structure I was in a hurry to get my statement across before other users read yours. Also I see what you are referring to with how the sentence can be interpreted in multiple ways. To clear things up I caught him in the act and fired him on the spot.
CArmstrong 02-16-2007, 08:52 PM Actually, thanks for saying that. I read the sentence the same way Steve did but I didn't want to say anything.
Sorry for the poor sentence structure I was in a hurry to get my statement across before other users read yours. Also I see what you are referring to with how the sentence can be interpreted in multiple ways. To clear things up I caught him in the act and fired him on the spot.
RS|John 02-16-2007, 08:57 PM Thanks for the heads up that could of turned into a dirty sittuation hahah
peruviantalk 02-16-2007, 09:18 PM lets not forget the amount of chargebacks kids will do to their parents cc because of a game server..
Defcon|Rich 02-16-2007, 09:37 PM I am wanting to start a Game Server Hosting Company but I don't know what to do :(
I know I have to rent a Dedicated Server but after that I am lost. I'm hoping that some of you here will be able to Help me =]
1. How do you run Game Servers on a NEW Dedicated Server? (Mostly CS1.6 and CS:SOURCE)
2. How do you change the FPS of the server and the tick rate for the Source Servers?
Thank you!
You should read your post a few times and ask yourself if this is really what you want to do. Seriously.. This would be the same as me walking into a restaurant and proclaiming "I'd like to buy this shop but don't know how to cook or run a business".. Sounds rather silly doesn't it?
You want to run a business and that's fine but I would advise you start with something you know more about because nothing for nothing you won't make it. That's a fact. There are guys out there right now that know game hosting inside and out but they are failing because they forgot one crucial thing.. How to run a 24x7x365 internet business and more importantly how to make it successful and keep it producing.
Make no mistake, Your not going to get rich selling game servers. If I had to guess I'd wager there are less then a dozen GSP's that produce enough profit to earn a living at it working full time so don't get your hopes up..
Coolraul 02-16-2007, 09:52 PM Thanks for telling a community of this size what type of company you're running. :agree:
I took it as he found them doing it and put a stop to it. If you have hired any volume of staff over time, you are bound to have someone go off the beaten track sooner or later. Hence the term "going postal".
RS|John 02-16-2007, 11:47 PM thanks coolraul im glad someone actually understood what i was saying
NitOxYs 03-01-2007, 12:00 PM Very heavily saturated market, if you don't know what your doing then don't. Or you can just be another "kiddy" business as other people pertain to.
PEAK-Bobby 03-02-2007, 07:34 PM I can say from experience, I am the founder of a GSP SuperiorServers.net, back in the day we had heavy sales volume. I went into the Gameserver business pretty much the same sooha is talking about. But the only thing I had was a large capital to start my business. I poored in thousands of dollars on servers/techs/sales/advertisements ect.. I admit it was tons of fun, and I made a nice dollar or two.
But what I am trying to say about this situation is, don't make an overnight decision like I did. You should really think about it and weigh the pros & cons of your idea. If you end up really wanting to get your business started, I'd be happy to give you a few starter tips as well as tech help if needed.
I suggest you do what RS|John said in #4 post, about getting a job as a support or sales w/e in a already established small or large GSP. It will help you get a feel for what selling gameservers is about. Yes there are plenty of Nuckle heads who just want to harrass you, and of course since you most likley will be IRC based on some network eg. Gamesurge, you will receive tons upon tons of "SPONSOR ME, MY TEAMS CAL-O" requests. You'll learn to ignore and move on.
Anywhoo thanks for reading and I help everything turns out good for you sooha
Defcon|Rich 03-02-2007, 11:25 PM 'Back in the day' ?
According to whois info your domain was created last fall..
PEAK-Bobby 03-03-2007, 12:02 AM 'Back in the day' ?
According to whois info your domain was created last fall..
I let the domain expire on accident, I don't own the company anymore.
Kemik 03-03-2007, 06:33 AM I'm not even going to apologise for the following...
If you don't have a clue how to setup game servers then please please please do not sell your services. It's that kind of people that screw up the current market, filling it with people who don't have a clue how to do things, therefore providing rubbish servers.
You need to become an expert in one market. E.g. HL2 and it's mods or the COD series. Learn how to do all the configs, how many servers/slots you can put on a box, how to update the game, learn all about tickrates, what all the options in the configs mean and how they affect the server. Don't overload your server just because your getting more customers. People will say "oh I can get that many slots for £'s lower from ABC" but you'll usually find that ABC is overloading their servers to make any profit.
Don't base your prices off companies such as INX because they're the biggest companies in the market and can use economies of scale. For now I'd suggest just hosting friends for a price that will break even.
Learn how to communicate with customers, especially professionalism.
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