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View Full Version : Enabling clients to edit their own sites
Mr101 02-02-2007, 09:15 PM Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for a solution that will enable clients to edit their existing sites from any browser, added value for hosting. I'm not looking for a sitebuilder per say but if it includes templates that would be a bonus. Brandable would be great as well.
So far the only solution I've found is: http://www.besavvy.com
Thanks for your input!
Bounceweb 02-02-2007, 10:42 PM Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for a solution that will enable clients to edit their existing sites from any browser, added value for hosting. I'm not looking for a sitebuilder per say but if it includes templates that would be a bonus. Brandable would be great as well.
So far the only solution I've found is: http://www.besavvy.com
Thanks for your input!
Don't waste your money, look at the pricing, it's a rip off in my opinion, there are so many other options out there, if you do a cost advantage analysis I'm sure you will find that it'll bring less value to the customer than it costs, unless you have 10000+ customers.
jmweb 02-02-2007, 10:50 PM Or you could go the opensource route.
WebNerdz 02-03-2007, 03:39 AM Are you talking about something like RVSite Builder? It comes with templates, some of them flash. I think its under $10 a month for a single domain license and it works with Cpanel.
thebizarone 02-03-2007, 05:11 AM Are you talking about something like RVSite Builder? It comes with templates, some of them flash. I think its under $10 a month for a single domain license and it works with Cpanel.
We've just installed RVSiteBuilder on our servers, not too sure about it yet. The prices are cheap for the lite version, $6/month/server or $3/month/VPS account. We opted for the Pro version at $12/month/Server.
If your looking for a content management system for clients, there are tons of open source programs. We've got Fantastico on cPanel running and have a niche site devoted to providing easily (point and click) installed CMS/blog systems to clients who have a hard time installing scripts like this, it's working great.
Mr101 02-04-2007, 04:09 AM Are you talking about something like RVSite Builder? It comes with templates, some of them flash. I think its under $10 a month for a single domain license and it works with Cpanel.
A site builder would work for someone that is willing to have their site re-done, or someone who doesn't have a site yet. I'm looking for a solution for those that pay for a maintance fee or pay per-update to their existing site. I'd like to offer a solution to self maintaining a site, not re-designing. Any suggestions?
thebizarone 02-04-2007, 04:37 PM you could try fckeditor.net, it's basically an Open source WYSIWYG editor.
We've built a free hosting control panel using it, it worked out great.
SoftDux 02-04-2007, 04:51 PM That's a trickey one. take a look on hotscripts.com, there are a few which could edit an existing website, but they might need some tweaking to work with all your client's websites.
RVSite Builder, for instance is written to be installed serverwide, so the total overhead is also a bit less.
But, take a look on hotscripts.com, I know we used to use one from there, a while ago, can't remember what it's called though
The Stealthy One 02-04-2007, 07:14 PM I don't know if this is in the same league as what you're looking for, but we've used Psoft's (psoft.net) SiteStudio for awhile now, and our users like it. It includes the templates, and software that runs in any browser for site editing. So far, it's the best of what I've seen. Short of a custom solution, there's nothing better out there, in my opinion. Good luck in your search! And I would be interested to hear what you end up settling with. :)
SoftDux 02-04-2007, 07:21 PM One thing you have to keep in mind, is how will whatever script you get, know how to handle the data on the websites? If these sites are built with Fronpage, Dreamweaver, Homesite, etc, it's all going to be a mess with HTML / PHP / JS, etc. Website builders are build in such a way, that everthing editable is refrenced.
Unless your clients know coding, this could turn out messy for them
jagarco 02-05-2007, 08:45 AM I just install websitebaker.com and put their info, photos, colors, logo, etc.
they are able to login and easily create new pages, change info, etc.
And that's it.
Is simple for us...,
cheap, pretty and powerful for them..
We have a lot of work.
Salutes
Giorgio
Mr101 02-06-2007, 01:13 PM Thanks for the replies so far. Has anyone used flyspeck.net? It looks like a commercial version of fckeditor.
mrzippy 02-11-2007, 05:58 AM Flyspeck.net is very similar to www.snippetmaster.com. Basically a simple editing system for basic content management, etc.
Shaw Networks 02-11-2007, 04:41 PM Are you talking about a simple WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editor?
Mr101 02-13-2007, 03:48 PM Are you talking about a simple WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editor?
You could call it that but I'm looking to host not an application and also not restricted to templates.
thanks.
The Stealthy One 02-13-2007, 07:39 PM Mr101, have you considered creating a custom application then? Maybe a "lite", server-side program that would do the job?
Mr101 02-13-2007, 08:24 PM Mr101, have you considered creating a custom application then? Maybe a "lite", server-side program that would do the job?
Not really. I've been looking at the different lite cms and trying to narrow it down.
jb5ep 02-16-2007, 05:49 AM Hi there,
I use SiteCenter from Interspire. They've just updated it to the 'NX' version. Comments:
* It's easy to install and doesn't require any modification to core OS/control panel files
* It's extremely usable - Interspire seem to put a big emphasis on usability
* With a bit of creative building, you can use it to allow clients to manage 'bespoke' sites that you've built for them (rather than a template built site, which it also does).
* The core technologies it relies on are all basic, proven and robust (html, ftp. etc)
But as mentioned elsewhere, - there are loads of SiteBuilders. I went through a process of listing my business requirements and then comparing products against that list to find a best fit. Bit anal, but well worth it.
Cheers,
JB
flysouth 02-26-2007, 08:42 AM I have used this and sold it to a couple (three I think) clients who are in small business and want to do the occassional update to their website.
It seems to be a lot cheaper that some other WYSIWYG editors and it is quick and easy to install and set up and nice to use - like a word processor almost. It has it's own self-installer.
For instance I have one client who is a business broker - she sells businesses - who was paying a bundle to have her main listings page with all the business for sale updated weekly - she now happily uses Editwrx.
I have found that clients in (non-internet/computer) businesses with websites cannot get to grips with the non-WYSIWYG editors.
flysouth 02-26-2007, 08:48 AM Sorry - did not give the URL:
http://www.editwrx.com
BTW - it is self-updating too and does not interfere with anything else within a website.
You can even install it on a "master" website on a server and allow access to that single copy from multiple websites - but I never tried that yet.
ThePrizeChest 02-26-2007, 11:12 PM Looking at that first one you posted, if that's your budget, i'd say have one custom made for your website - this way you get exactly what it is you need and don't pay for anything more than you want.
jb5ep 03-05-2007, 05:19 PM @flysouth: - thanks for the tip on editwrx! - i'm in the process of testing it vs. SiteCenter and strongly suspect (esp given the licensing) that i'll be swapping clients over to it shortly!
garlicd 03-06-2007, 09:57 AM Has anyone ever used the SoHo Pro Launch? It now comes with cpanel but I was wondering if any of you designers have ever used it or set it up for your customers. All these other suggestions look pretty interesting also.
flysouth 03-07-2007, 03:18 PM Glad you found EditWrx useful j5sep, it's great value for money!:agree:
jb5ep 03-28-2007, 07:28 AM Indeed, - i've now shifted clients to EditWrx. The auto-update saves a tonne of hassle. Nice product, well worth the money. The only downside is it's dependency on IE, - but even that's workable in Firefox with the 'View in IE tab' extension.
Cheers,
SoftDux 03-28-2007, 07:46 AM That's IF the client has windows!
I most certainly won't purchase or support anyone who force me to purchase windows just to use their products / services. Like many others I use Linux, and only Linux. Working on the web & running a hosting business, there's no need for me to use Windows
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