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Marty 02-12-2001, 12:50 PM I had stated in another thread that the developer of phpBB had said that once phpBB started handling more that 20,000 posts that it would begin to seriously lag in speed a performance. He may have spoken to early, based on theory.
Check out this forum using phpBB v1.2.0:
http://www.s-series.org/phpBB/index.php
The current stats on this board are:
Our Users have posted a total of -63244- messages.
We have -1274- Registered users.
That is a pretty hefty board, and it doesn't appear slow to me.
TheComputerGuy 02-12-2001, 03:59 PM Maybe your on a fast connection, 56k and up
klisis 02-12-2001, 04:19 PM I don't think connection matters with this kind of matter.
If the program slows down, no matter what kind of connection you have, it will slow down.
alpha 02-12-2001, 04:21 PM go into the board and look...
i see some bugs... maybe its not phpBB itself
but how do you get negative number of replies?
and if you try to read the posts with negative replies..
DA DA DAAAAAAAAA
"Error connecting to the database!"
i see a multitude of negative replies
lets see these bugs being fixed for v2 :)
webfors 02-12-2001, 04:31 PM Version 1.2.0 is a beta version, so you can expect bugs like that to pop up. I find phpBB a very good alternative to paying for vB.
Marty 02-12-2001, 05:29 PM 1.2.0 is no longer beta. 1.2.0 is the latest stable release. The negative posts you see and the problems on the board I posted are most likely related to the fact that that board was a conversion from UBB using a phpBB hackers conversion script. The script used for conversion is not perfect and is not a product of phpBB developers. I use phpBB on both the sites in my signature, and currently have version 1.2.0 running. I have yet to find any bugs in the forum software.
Personally, I think it is a great alternative to the cost of vbulletin. I have nothing against vBulletin or the cost of it. I understand what it takes to write a script like this, but phpBB is one of the better open source bulletin boards available. tForum would be my second choice in the open source arena, but I don't think it is in the same class a phpBB yet. tForum's developer is currently rewriting the entire code base to bring it up to par. I will be interested to see if it can come close to phpBB.
TheComputerGuy 02-12-2001, 05:44 PM BBhacks.com ? I think it is up there Marty,
RotoHost 02-12-2001, 06:19 PM I think any slowness of that s-series board has to do with the images some posters included in their posts. I'm pleasantly surprised to see phpBB holding up with that many posts. We use it for out Support board and have been very pleased.
dektong 02-13-2001, 11:35 AM Originally posted by Marty
The current stats on this board are:
Our Users have posted a total of -63244- messages.
We have -1274- Registered users.
That is a pretty hefty board, and it doesn't appear slow to me.
KEWL! Now all this is for free! :love:
cheers,
:beer:
klisis 02-13-2001, 12:19 PM The only thing I don't like in phpbb is they use font size=3 in post. It uncomforts me. I like size=2.
alchiba 02-13-2001, 12:25 PM Originally posted by klisis
The only thing I don't like in phpbb is they use font size=3 in post. It uncomforts me. I like size=2.
I didn't like it either, but was able to hack the file viewtopic.php to fix it. The delivered version of the code isn't setting a font size so the default size was being used.
klisis 02-13-2001, 12:29 PM Yeah, I edited it manually also. Hmm in my option, using size=3 in the post looked cheap ;)
Marty 02-13-2001, 01:31 PM The font sizes will be addressed in v2.0.0 where phpBB will go to an HTML templating system. This will allow alot of flexibility in the look and appearance as a whole.
But, it is an easy hack to modify to a font size 2. I haven't done it yet, but probably will.
TheComputerGuy 02-13-2001, 02:06 PM It doesnt bother me, but whatever floats your boat
theFinn 02-13-2001, 08:58 PM Someone pointed me at this discussion so I figured I should jump in :D
First, yes I said that phpBB would probably lag once it gets over 20,000 posts. That was probably in referance to version 1.0.0. Version 1.2.0 handles itself a little better but it still becomes a real dog when post counts start getting really high (100,000+).
Now, when I say 'a real dog' I mean that it takes the index page more then 1 second to process. The index page on the S-Series board takes over a second to load, thats really bad proformance in my mind. I would like phpBB to be able to load an index page for a forum with over 1,000,000 posts in under a second, in its current state it would probably take a couple minutes :eek:
That said, we are rewriting about 90% of the code, and 100% of the SQL interaction for version 2.0. With the new table structures it'll be far faster then the current version. Also with 2.0 will come the template system so you can make your forum look however you like :D
Thats my $0.02
TheComputerGuy 02-13-2001, 10:04 PM TheFinn,
Welcome to WHT, for those who do not know Finn is one of the creators of phpbb.com, very nice board. Again, Welcome, and when you are taking a break from phpbb.com give us a vist.
alpha 02-13-2001, 10:16 PM although im considerately amateur when dealing with php and mysql... i've been able to learn php easy because it has the exactly same syntax and symantics as C++...
if you ever happened to need any help with simple parts of phpBB's development... then e-mail me!
btw, good job with phpBB :)
dektong 02-13-2001, 10:27 PM Originally posted by theFinn
That said, we are rewriting about 90% of the code, and 100% of the SQL interaction for version 2.0. With the new table structures it'll be far faster then the current version. Also with 2.0 will come the template system so you can make your forum look however you like :D
Thats my $0.02
All this for free? But why? I don't see that the user of phpBB will need to run some sort of advertisement... So how do you guys maintain all this? :) Having said this, I still love the fact that it's free.... Greeeaaattt.... :D
cheers,
:beer:
klisis 02-13-2001, 10:41 PM Well, I don't mind paying 50 ~ 100 dollars.
'Money makes the world goes around'
But I am Not going to pay 125 dollars for stupid upgrade like UBB, waste of money.
Boostable 02-14-2001, 12:34 AM Hello Everyone...
I like the fact that my board is getting some air time. :-o
First: Negative posts have nothing to do with phpBB. It was a combination of the UBB conversion and me screwing up the posts DB. Wooopsss.. So I had to restore a 2 day old backup. Thus causing all the posts made during those 2 days to go to a -1 (this is what happens when you have Topics and no Posts..)
So I have restored the majority of them so most of the -1 are gone. The only ones left if you notice are duplicate entires that are already there. So I just need to clean them out. Again, my fault. Thats what I get for converting a Topic twice.. duhhhh...
All in all I am VERY happy with the board. Finn knows this.. :) and it is substantialy faster then UBB configured the same way. (not to mention im a php freak)
Last: phpBB rocks.. keep up the killer work guys. Hopefully I will get some code in it someday.
Just thought I would clear that up seeing as I was mentioned here... didn't want any bad publicity for phpBB due to my ummmmm fat fingers.. ya ya.. thats it... :)
Chicken 02-14-2001, 01:14 AM Welcome theFinn and Boostable! By far it is a great great great board, and somewhere I posted a few of the things which I thought it lacked. (Gee, sure you don't get any of those comments?)
So I say that, with a, "By far it is a great great great board", so keep that in mind! Also, someone said some of the issues were going to be addressed in v2.0 so I look forward to checking it out.
Keep up the good work, as many appreciate your efforts, (as if you didn't know that also, heh).
theFinn 02-14-2001, 01:29 AM Thanks for the warm welcome :D I'm glad everyone like the software, alot of hard work has gone into getting 1.2 out to the world.
Just one thing that I want to address.
Originally posted by dektong
All this for free? But why? I don't see that the user of phpBB will need to run some sort of advertisement... So how do you guys maintain all this? :) Having said this, I still love the fact that it's free.... Greeeaaattt.... :D
cheers,
:beer: [/B]
I'm a very strong proponant of the Free Software (Free as in speech, not nessacarlly as in beer :D) movement. Even though I've been in software development for a while and have made a good living out of doing it I don't see the point of charging money for non-custom built solutions. If I were to build a forum like phpBB for a client I would charge them an arm and a leg, but it would be built to their specifications. Now, if I build a bit of software like phpBB its built to my specifications so why should I charge others for work that I've been doing for myself?
As for how we maintain it, well our webhosting is provided free of charge from the great guys at Intrahost.com, all the development is done by voluenteers in their spare time who agree with the Free software philosiphy. Quite frankly I never even though to charge money for phpBB...its just not somthing I would be confortable doing...I guess I'm weird.
Long live Free software! :D
Deb Suran 02-14-2001, 12:38 PM Hi Finn. I've been keeping an eye on your program for a while, but can't add it to my "check these out" list until someone proofreads your webpages. You come across as extremely unprofessional when you offer a communication product at your website without, at a minimum, running your webpages through a spelling checker. On just one page:
experiance
themeing
Mulitpal
compatiable
I'm a poor speller, and when *I* find that many mistakes on one page....
lienzi 02-15-2001, 11:00 AM "You come across as extremely unprofessional "
mistakes I found on YOUR site
"...all.We ..." http://www.mimf.com/link.htm
"Still inder construction" http://www.mimf.com/link.htm
"anotated in English" http://www.mimf.com/link.htm
and did somebody complain about your "extremely professional" design?
if there are errors you can also say it in a more friendly way.
Deb Suran 02-15-2001, 05:42 PM I'm not trying to promote my own communications product. Nor do I consider it in any way "unfriendly" to point out to a company why I can't recommend them.
Thanks for your corrections: they are now fixed.
Mafukie 02-15-2001, 06:18 PM ? pot calling the kettle black rather.
lienzi 02-15-2001, 06:38 PM There is nothing to say about "why I cannot recommend you". But offensive statements do not help. Nobody is perfect (as we have seen not even you), and I am far more interested in getting an *error free* code than an error free website. Excellent coders are not necessarily excellent writers.
Topic closed.
Deb Suran 02-15-2001, 08:51 PM <sigh> My message was not an attack, as you would like to style it. I would prefer to recommend products, including phpBB. I cannot do so if they don't improve their website. I have told them so.
Topic closed.
Chicken 02-15-2001, 10:32 PM Please email specific things like spelling errors directly to the site owner and do not post them on the board. It isn't something that can be discussed and it just pisses people off in public for no reason.
I think we can all agree with that... play nice or I'll stop the car and make everyone walk (what my mother always threatened, -we didn't believe her for a second :))
Mafukie 02-15-2001, 11:14 PM I was always scarred because just to think about walking *shudder* :p
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