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Warren
06-27-2002, 03:52 PM
Anyone here know where there is high speed connectivity in Canda? I'm in eastern Canada, and the best I can get out of the phone company around here was a quote for a t1, and they wanted almost $4,000 a month for it. I was wondering if anyone knows of availablity of connections in the ds3+ range anywhere in the country?

mwatkins
06-27-2002, 04:11 PM
No matter what, you will be spending bucks. I am assuming you are looking for connectivity to an office? I'm suprised you can't get more than a T1. Are you in Goose Bay or some far(ther) flung place?

If you can't bring the connectivity to your door step, then you could always co-locate somewhere. There are choices.

Magma Communications, Inc. - Ottawa, Ontario
www.magma.ca

Q9 Networks, Inc. - Toronto, Ontario
www.q9.com

Peer1 Network
www.peer1.net


Or, do it in the US and pay less.

Warren
06-27-2002, 04:31 PM
we're currently in a bit co-lo debate, and yeah, it's gonna be the states. right now we're just leasing a dedicated server, but we're soon to be running our own box on someone elses lines. I was just wondering if there was anywhere around that you can actually get a line. I'm in Nova Scotia, Cape Breton to be exact, and a t1 is "big" deal for most places. I mean, 4k is a big deal for a t1, wouldn't you say? At least I think it's a little steep.

311
06-27-2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Warren
I'm in Nova Scotia, Cape Breton to be exact, and a t1 is "big" deal for most places. I mean, 4k is a big deal for a t1, wouldn't you say? At least I think it's a little steep.

Since you're that far out east even T1s are rather expensive, If you lived in a more populated urban area then leased lines are generally less expensive.

mwatkins
06-27-2002, 04:50 PM
Telecom costs have always been outrageous in our country. I used to pay 3500 CDN for a 56K data circuit from Vancouver to San Jose. About 2800 of the cost was from Vancouver to the border (30KM).

This was a long time ago, but the general issue of high cost remains.

Warren
06-27-2002, 04:55 PM
do you guys know what a t1 or something like that runs for out west?

ontheedge
06-27-2002, 05:14 PM
Sounds like Aliant deal ?!?

Granted 311 is right. You're way north. ;) You need to be in Truro or HFX :D

Don't be fooled. Where you are won't depend on pricing. iStar Internet (now PSINet, now Inter.net) used to charge the same price for a T1 in Vancouver/Calgary/Edmonton as they did in NS.

Have you tried MTT?

BTW. What's life like out there. I'm due for a vacation soon. Thinking about visiting.

You know all the time I've been down East, I've never been to Cape Breton (had family near Truro).

ClusterMania
06-27-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Warren
Anyone here know where there is high speed connectivity in Canda? I'm in eastern Canada, and the best I can get out of the phone company around here was a quote for a t1, and they wanted almost $4,000 a month for it. I was wondering if anyone knows of availablity of connections in the ds3+ range anywhere in the country?

I am also a Canadian. I found prices in Canada were way too steep so I ended up buying a rack in US and getting bandwidth there. If you need anything for a good price just tell me.

Warren
06-27-2002, 05:35 PM
heheh MTT is the only phone compnay now between Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, P.E.I.. They're partnered with Aliant now. Inter.net is someone i've only recently heard from, I might try and find out what they're doing. And Life out here is great. Getting some technology based industry out here in CB as opposed to the traditional coal mining/fishing/steel working/forestry. There's actually 1000+ people employed by one place in Glace Bay. Mind you it's a tech support call center, but it's a start, right? (p.s. everyone move to nova scotia and bring money hahahah)

bacid
06-28-2002, 01:40 AM
inter.net doesnt offer high speed lines.

and they suck, trust me on this :p

Cephren
06-28-2002, 03:07 AM
If youre in eastern Canada and far away from a major carrier's data center, such as UUNET, SPRINT, or ATT, most likely you will have to go through a local loop past your telephone company.
In Ontario, BELL Canada is SUCH a monopoly and charges horrifics rate for the local loop. If a normal burstable T1 costs 1800, Bell Canada or other Major Phone company in Canada will place in couple thousand dollars on top of it for the local loop.

mwatkins
06-28-2002, 09:54 AM
The other point that probably needs to be made is pricing in Canada makes it very costly to have any sort of redundancy. Having "1" line or provider is not probably what you really want if you are looking at these investment costs.

Here's another thought - do what can-host.com did (they are Canadian too) - see if your local (if you have a local and now Shaw or Rogers) cable co will be your ISP. Can-host has two fiber runs connecting them to the ISP. search for them in WHT< there was some discussion about this about a week ago.