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LordBob
06-27-2002, 12:53 PM
Look at this page:

http://www.mchost.com/plans/

and then look at this page:

http://www.host2host.ca/plans/

Not only did host2host.ca steal text from McHost, but they forgot to substitute their company's name for McHost's name!

It's too bad they didn't copy McHost's prices, too. Pretty steep.

LordBob

311
06-27-2002, 12:55 PM
Already been mentioned...

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52384&highlight=Design

:stickout

MCHost-Marc
06-27-2002, 12:58 PM
Yeah, they completely copied our old design. Even now it still looks very similar. And the 'MCHost' text ...:rolleyes:

tazd9t9
06-27-2002, 01:00 PM
copying just gets worse :(

Brin_AcuNett
06-27-2002, 01:10 PM
TF: 1-877-717-2266 give them a call ;)

ATST
06-27-2002, 01:26 PM
Sheesh! Wouldn't you think a hosting Co could afford a simple piece of software with search and replace? (homesite ought to do it) Or maybe they couldn't figure out how to use it? Too funny!

Aussie Bob
06-27-2002, 08:02 PM
From the host2host.ca (http://www.host2host.ca/plans/) site -
Unlike other reseller providers where you have to buy each of your clients' account separately, the [b]MCHost reseller plan gives you the flexibility.....
:eek: :eek2: :eek3: :D :laugh:

ben
06-28-2002, 01:02 AM
maybe Kiwi should thanks them..
they promote MCHost for FREE at there :D

Wazeh
06-28-2002, 03:21 AM
Well, it seems they went around the net to shop...


http://www.host2host.ca/about.htm

GetWebHosted.com was founded on July 8th, 2001 by Blastnet Communications Inc. in order to offer premium web hosting services to consumers and businesses at reasonable prices. Since our opening day our services have been a huge success due to the dedication of our team and the great support of our clients.

In addition to leaving GetWebHosted.com name, host2host.ca was registered on Feb 12th 2002!

MCHost-Marc
06-28-2002, 03:30 AM
It actually is GetWebHosted.com that stole the content ..see:
http://www.getwebhosted.com/products/index.htm

It links to host2host.ca - i think i'll visit them next week in Vancouver.

TimPD
06-28-2002, 03:40 AM
Good Luck. LOL .

Wazeh
06-28-2002, 03:57 AM
wahahhaha Actually it looks like they are both owned by the same company!

Domain Name: GETWEBHOSTED.COM

Administrative Contact:
Master, Domain Host network@getwebhosted.com
605-1331 West Georgia St.
Vancouver, BC V6E4P1
CA
(604) 647-2247
Fax: (604) 647-6467

Domain: host2host.ca

Administrative Contact
Name Network Operations Center
Job Title
Postal Address Blastnet Communications Inc. 605-1331 West Georgia St. Vancouver BC V6E4P1 Canada
Phone (604) 647-2247
Fax (604) 647-6467
Email network@blastnet.com


Good luck with your visit, Marc :D I would suggest you hide an X10 cam and record the encounter, it would be a classic on the web :laugh:

Aussie Bob
06-28-2002, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Kiwi
It links to host2host.ca - i think i'll visit them next week in Vancouver. [/B]
:laugh:

Kiwi - Knock knock.

host2host.ca's Mum - there's an angry Kiwi at the door. :eek: :eek2: :eek3:

Kiwi - :dgrin:

Maniac
06-30-2002, 04:26 AM
At least they like MCHost and support them :stickout

bruce1234at
07-01-2002, 01:35 AM
i can't believe how stupid some people are. it's bad enough they copy another site's content, but to forget to remove the other companies name is amazing!!

:eek: :D

Maniac
07-01-2002, 08:48 PM
At least change the name if you are going to do it.

Lonny
07-04-2002, 03:22 PM
Again?

Poor Mark - it's like the fourth time his site is being copied :)

Maniac
07-04-2002, 03:55 PM
People must like his site.

GH_Dave
07-04-2002, 04:19 PM
Do the pictures look the same to you?

http://www.host2host.ca/network.htm

http://www.peer1.net/en/facilities/facilities.html

If I only knew which cage they were in a Peer1. Actually I couldn't be that evil :dgrin:

:dgrin:

GH_Dave
07-04-2002, 04:25 PM
After a liitle more digging - they aren't at peer1.

Dave

Maniac
07-04-2002, 04:42 PM
Are you sure? : )

GH_Dave
07-04-2002, 04:47 PM
Uhhh.. I didn't dig my hole too deep :) but this didn't look like peer1.

Traceroute
Tracing route to www.host2host.ca [64.246.37.155]

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 0 0 0 216.46.228.241 port-216-3073265-dal16509b-drtn.devices.datareturn.net
2 0 10 0 64.29.192.237 port-64-1949933-zzt0prespect.devices.datareturn.net
3 0 0 0 64.29.192.226 port-64-1949922-zzt0prespect.devices.datareturn.net
4 0 0 0 209.246.152.201 gigabitethernet3-0-101.ipcolo2.dallas1.level3.net
5 0 0 0 209.244.15.105 gigabitethernet11-1.core1.dallas1.level3.net
6 0 0 0 209.247.10.105 so-4-0-0.mp2.dallas1.level3.net
7 40 30 30 64.159.1.125 so-3-0-0.mp1.losangeles1.level3.net
8 31 30 30 209.247.10.194 pos8-0.core1.losangeles1.level3.net
9 40 30 40 129.250.9.33 p4-6-0-0.r00.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net
10 30 40 40 129.250.5.25 p16-7-0-0.r02.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net
11 50 50 50 129.250.3.210 p4-0-3-0.r01.sndgca01.us.bb.verio.net
12 50 50 50 129.250.3.205 p4-2-0.r00.sndgca01.us.bb.verio.net
13 40 41 30 129.250.3.185 p4-1-0.r01.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net
14 30 40 40 129.250.29.89 ge-0-2-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ra.verio.net
15 70 80 70 128.241.2.102 ge-0-0-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ce.verio.net
16 70 70 70 207.218.223.37 tayhou-223-37.ev1.net
17 70 71 60 64.246.37.155

Trace complete

MCHost-Marc
07-04-2002, 04:51 PM
They're at RackShack. Sent several complaints to the abuse/copyrights email address ...no reply yet.

Maniac
07-04-2002, 05:01 PM
Yep.

Does RackShack and Ev1 use the same data center?...just wondering.

MCHost-Marc
07-04-2002, 05:03 PM
EV1 = RackShack

Maniac
07-04-2002, 05:08 PM
I know that. What I didn't know is if Ev1 (the dial-up provider) has a different data center then RackShack. I don't know too much about them so I was just wondering. Anyone want to give me a histroy lesson on them?

edude
07-04-2002, 05:52 PM
lol at kiwi, will this ever stop :eek:

Ohwell, whocares they are just making themselves look like fools.. I agree with Bruce1234at :)

Maniac
07-06-2002, 02:44 AM
Yep, agreed....

benoire
07-07-2002, 03:47 PM
Whenever I rip a design I always triple check I've removed all traces to the original author/designer...

Oops I didn't just say that out loud did I?

:D

admin0
07-07-2002, 04:02 PM
All copy from the best !!

congrats on being the best Marc !


:homer:

code_renegade
07-09-2002, 11:22 AM
At least it's a compliment, in a way, right? :D

Now go out there and give them a call ;)

Samuel
07-09-2002, 11:39 AM
I actually helped this person learn php includes, to thank me? They ripped my entire layout, and now calls me an ******* ahhhaahaha, figures..

MCHost isn't the only regularly ripped site, wonder how many referrals other hosts get in their logs and don't even catch it...

Ripper-
http://cancun.dnsvault.com/~jacynthe/

Original-
www.devimg.com

Atlonim
07-09-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Samuel

MCHost isn't the only regularly ripped site, wonder how many referrals other hosts get in their logs and don't even catch it...

Ripper-
http://cancun.dnsvault.com/~jacynthe/

Original-
www.devimg.com

Maybe I'm too blind, but where do you see anything similar except the blocks?

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:01 PM
Some of it has been changed, they have actually admited it.

I have screenshots of both sites to show it was an EXACT copy, same random image, same text etc

duration
07-09-2002, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Some of it has been changed, they have actually admited it.

I have screenshots of both sites to show it was an EXACT copy, same random image, same text etc

:rolleyes:

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:07 PM
What duration, what do you THINK you know about it eh?

The person has not only admited to it, but has been a complete ass about it and still you sit there acting like its "No big thang" amazing.

Aussie Bob
07-09-2002, 07:12 PM
:D "I do believe this thread can be closed now and happened off the boards..." :D

Sorry Samuel, couldn't resist. ;)

duration
07-09-2002, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
What duration, what do you THINK you know about it eh?

The person has not only admited to it, but has been a complete ass about it and still you sit there acting like its "No big thang" amazing.

is it a "big thang"? i doubt it...the offending material has been removed, an apology has been posted...anything further on this subject is between the two parties involved...

the fact that you are continuing to take this issue into public forums not only prove that on your part this is nothing more than an attempt to discredit another individual publicly (for what reason? who knows...but maybe your personal grudges should be kept personal)...

sorry, but the endless "victim" posturing on your part is quite tiresome...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:15 PM
Save it duration, it matters to you not, and doesnt concern you, no it has NOT been corrected, and the user still uses the layout.

Discredit? They have discredited themselves, by being an ass about it, calling me an ******* because I would happen to have a problem with it, you say that has been taken care of? Wake up

duration
07-09-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Save it duration, it matters to you not, and doesnt concern you, no it has NOT been corrected, and the user still uses the layout.

Discredit? They have discredited themselves, by being an ass about it, calling me an ******* because I would happen to have a problem with it, you say that has been taken care of? Wake up

well, if it doesn't concern me (or anyone else, for that matter) then keep it off public forums...simple as that...

in terms of public concern about this subject, yes, it has been taken care of...someone calling you an *******, i think, shouldn't matter to anyone other than yourself...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:19 PM
Again, you are wasting your time, twisting this, its ON a public forum, so others can the user that would do it.

You have what 5 posts? You are either just taking this time to get involved with this to stir crap up, or you are talking for someone else.

Either way, its none ya business.

Atlonim
07-09-2002, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
and the user still uses the layout.


I don't believe layout can be copyrighted.

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:21 PM
Noone said copyright except you, a rip is a rip

duration
07-09-2002, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Again, you wasting your time, twisting this, its ON a public forum, so others can the user that would do it.

i'd like to respond to this, but hate to say that it's not written in english...

You have what 5 posts? You are either just taking this time to get involved with this to stir crap up, or you are talking for someone else.

Either way, its none ya business.

as if number of posts determines my qualifications for commenting on anything?...

& i would never presume to speak for anyone else...i quit playing those games when i graduated from high school...

&, again, you make it my business when you take it public...if you would prefer not to receive any kind of negative comments, then (again a quite simple concept) don't take it public...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:24 PM
You are saying the same things over and over, move on bitch.

Youve already voice this in another location, and are just "Grandstanding" who cares toady

duration
07-09-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
You are saying the same things over and over, move on bitch.

quite profound, & well thought out...

nice to know you are capable of adult conversation...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:26 PM
Put the opium pipe down

duration
07-09-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Put the opium pipe down

your wit astounds me...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:28 PM
Your lack of following a conversation does not astound me.

You are going to only pick peices to respond to, and reiterate the unjustified position you already have.

A rip is a rip, and THAT was a rip, that you ignored, and will continue to, its the entire basis of your argument.

Atlonim
07-09-2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Noone said copyright except you, a rip is a rip

well, copyright laws (and trademarks) are there to protect against the ripping. If it is not protected by copyright or trademark laws is not a rip-off. Maybe plagiat...

Your opinion, the car industry is all rip-off because cars look alike?

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:32 PM
If you saw the site originally you would consider it a rip, some of the content has been removed, but it is, and was based on the entire layout.

Not talking about copyright here, talking about someone taking someone elses work, and then acting like a complete bitch because someone would have the gall to call them on it, then duration here chimes in with his poison just to stir the situation, this is the SECOND time he has done this and the only motivation he has shown to have is to ignore that it WAS a rip, and will continue to ignore it just to have a say.

duration
07-09-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Your lack of following a conversation does not astound me.

perhaps if you were able to construct a coherent sentence, i might be able to follow a bit better...quit trying to wax philosophic, sam...you only trip over your words...

You are going to only pick peices to respond to, and reiterate the unjustified position you already have.

unjustified in the sense that your constant attempt to tell anyone who does not agree with you on this point is somehow "not in the know," or that it's "none of their business" is enough of a foundation to tell you to either disclose everything that went on previously, or keep the subject private?

A rip is a rip, and THAT was a rip, that you ignored, and will continue to, its the entire basis of your argument.

ignore? i don't think i ever said it wasn't a rip...merely said that the offending material has been removed, with an apology posted in its place...

try reading a post before you respond to it...might save you the stress of trying to find something witty to say...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:34 PM
Remember, i've said, in order to teach this person php includes, code was sent, they took the code and put it on their site and re-created my site as if it was their own.

That is a fact that THEY don't even deny, fact is it was done and an attempt to have the layout (Code) removed has been underway, posting about it is to show it's rampant and even someone you "Think" won't do it, will steal from you.

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:37 PM
Duration, you are incorrect, an apology is NOT what I would call this.

Samuel, in case you can't read english plainly. It is being dealt with so get a life, get a clue and get off your high horse.

Simple enough?

That is what you call an apology? Attacking me because I havent quite followed your standards in writing is totally beside the point and is being used to bait me into an argument, it's obvious what you are doing duration. Attacking me.

Atlonim
07-09-2002, 07:37 PM
well, if your site has such a good design to be ripped-off once, for sure it will be more often in the future, so get used to it. Happens all the time.

Happened to me as well, not worth of getting so upset over it.

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:41 PM
Not upset about the rip as much as Im upset about the person's minions going around attacking me because I would say anything about it in the first place, just as you've seen above the attack continues.

It's been ripped off 3 times and each time it was me helping someone, and after 3 entire rips by people you helped understand something it gets to you.

Helping people with code, working with them to understand something about their graphic editor is becoming quite the disapointing endeavor now days.

duration
07-09-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Remember, i've said, in order to teach this person php includes, code was sent, they took the code and put it on their site and re-created my site as if it was their own.

That is a fact that THEY don't even deny, fact is it was done and an attempt to have the layout (Code) removed has been underway, posting about it is to show it's rampant and even someone you "Think" won't do it, will steal from you.

if this is the case...if the entire point of your post was to warn others...then why the continued emphasis on how it's "none of my business"?...would think a general warning, or life lesson about something we should all be concerned about, would definitely be everyone's business...

sorry, but this "bitch" doesn't buy it...

duration
07-09-2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Not upset about the rip as much as Im upset about the person's minions going around attacking me because I would say anything about it in the first place, just as you've seen above the attack continues.

minion?...hate to break it to you sam...but some people are quite capable of thinking for themselves...

Samuel
07-09-2002, 07:43 PM
Yes you win duration, nothing I say will mean very much to you, this is the second time you've attacked me on a forum over this. You are the winner, respond to this to have the last say and pick apart every thing I say just to ignore that this is about a thief.

duration
07-09-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Samuel
Yes you win duration, nothing I say will mean very much to you, this is the second time you've attacked me on a forum over this. You are the winner, respond to this to have the last say and pick apart every thing I say just to ignore that this is about a thief.

"win"?...i've no intention of winning anything...especially given that a victory over you would mean very little to me at this point...would only give you more fodder for your continued attempt at martyrdom...

again, read a post before you respond...i've never argued the point that this may have been a rip...i've taken issue with the ways in which you are taking this public...