Just noticed they offered a good deal at WHT. Is there anyone using them ? Has anyone used them before. Please comment their service.

Ill order today or tomorrow..

I just ordered the Cogent bandwidth server from them so I'll let you know. They have been very quick to reply to my emails and always answer my questions fully... not beating around the bush.

Mark

Do they own the NOC and for how long they are into business.

I've also ordered their cogent bandwidth, only I think I'm gonna bump it to 5 MBIT instead of 3 (it's an extra $60 a month, but it's still a steal at that price). I just heared they should get my server up in the next 24 hours, so I'll report back when it's up. Communications have been excellend up till now. Everything looks good.

I ordered a very custom package..so i have to way one week! :( I'll post my experience soon.

I choosed the multi pipe option! :)

How is everyone getting along with this host. Has anyone actualy got a server with them yet?

Regards,

Brian

I couldnt find anything on dedicated servers on their website, can someone point me to the url?

Thanks! :)

Little update:

It's taking longer than expected to get my server. I should have had it up 24 -48 hours ago, but I'm still in regular email contact with Chavvon and it looks like it will be going online soon (me hopes it will at least). Might have taken longer because I ordered a 5 MBIT line instead of a 3 MBIT...

Originally posted by WebHozt
I couldnt find anything on dedicated servers on their website, can someone point me to the url?

Thanks! :)

yeah dude

i couldn't find anything about it either..? maybe i'm just dumb or something

i believe they posted a special in the advertising forums. but, there's no information about it on their site.

http://www.transoptics.com/hostmania/

hostmania.net

Anyone got their server from Transoptic, please share your experience with them (support, speed, etc)? I'm particularly interested in the multi-pipe option.

*** Updated comments ***

Received this reply from CS as follows:

Brian,

The time frame was given as 3-5 business days due to the short week and unexpected large orders.

We have another set of servers that will hopefully arrive tomorrow and you will be in that batch.

Regards,

CS


:) I am so far more happier than I was yesterday.

Thanks CS.

Brian

<< Issue cleared >>

Edited: See next post.

*** Updated comments ***

Received this reply from CS as follows:

Brian,

The time frame was given as 3-5 business days due to the short week and unexpected large orders.

We have another set of servers that will hopefully arrive tomorrow and you will be in that batch.

Regards,

CS


I am so far more happier than I was yesterday.

Thanks CS.

Brian

2 good things about paying by CC though: chargebacks and fraud insurance. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

Ive been in touch with Chavvon via email and he hasnt replied to my last email to him, perhaps he's on holiday?

Dont know for sure though, lets wait and see!

im waiting too...he said things will be a little slow cause' july 4th.

I managed to get through to him now. Darn it, I forgot about 4th of july, easily done when you live in Europe.

At least all my fears have been put to rest, they're expecting a batch of servers in tomorrow :)

any updates?

Updates:

Charged my card, waiting for server details?

Anyone else at this stage?

Brian :)

I probably am, but contacting my CC company to see whether they charged my card is a delicate matter over here. They'll just feed you a lot of stuff about privacy etc. Hell, even my bank says (they issued me the card) they have a hard time getting info out of Mastercard.

Anyone with a contact number. Everytime I try there is no one there?

Brian

P.S.

They have taken $150 out of my card and also tried twice again today for 2 more loads of $150? thats in total $450.00

Ummmmmmmmmmmm whats this about, getting suspicious.


Brian

I called them (phone)....They said they are waiting for a server shipment...

They'll start activating on monday. Servers didn't arrived today.

hey dominet,
I tried calling them today, no answer, as I was promised that the server would be up today. Can you contact me off board with who you spoke with.

-Steven

tell them to call you back (answering machine) Chavvon Smith (ceo) called me.

I'm still waiting for my server right now. I tried emailing Chavvon today, but I didn't get a response. Has anyone received a server that's up and running yet? Just curious to see how long it took.

Mark

Originally posted by dominet
tell them to call you back (answering machine) Chavvon Smith (ceo) called me.

I thought Travis was the CEO? Hmmm. This is getting pretty fishy.

Im still getting pissed about with my credit card, he keeps saying that he has to wait for the payment although he has (Hostmania) has taken $150.00 from my card?

I am getting a bit pissed off!

No comunication only emails, never answers the phones and I think that his address is only a mailing address?

I think this is going to be a nightmare?

He has not said if there is going to be any additional costs like for reboots etc, etc.

NOT HAPPY!

Has anyone got a running server considering he said to me that im in the new batch of servers?

So what happened to the first batch before me, has anyone got one?

Brian

He told me that he suddenly got an order of 80 servers...


I expect to have my server on monday.

Be patient. This company is only just starting up in the hosting business and it's the 4th of July season.

He has always answered me, eventually. Though I'm also still waiting for my server, I have every confidence it will be delivered. They have a lot of orders to work themselves through. Also, my CC hasn't been charged yet (at leat that's what my CC company told me, though I still can't be 100% sure as they would only give vague info via email).

I just hope their response times pick up when it comes to resolving hardware problems etc. once they get the servers up and running, though I ordered mine with an APC switch, so that takes care of 90% of the issues.

Tazz, how much you paid for the APC switch?

They quoted me $10 a month for the added APC, and $30 per additional MBIT of Cogent (had it bumped to a 5 MBIT capped line).

Originally posted by Realist
Im still getting pissed about with my credit card, he keeps saying that he has to wait for the payment although he has (Hostmania) has taken $150.00 from my card?

I am getting a bit pissed off!

No comunication only emails, never answers the phones and I think that his address is only a mailing address?

I think this is going to be a nightmare?

He has not said if there is going to be any additional costs like for reboots etc, etc.

NOT HAPPY!

Has anyone got a running server considering he said to me that im in the new batch of servers?

So what happened to the first batch before me, has anyone got one?

Brian

I ordered on about a week ago, but in email Chavvon indicated that due to the holiday weekend and the large numbers of orders there would be about a week delay. I wanted to point out that in the original offer here

Original thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57124)

He indicated free reboots. I hope that is the case as it was an important aspect of my consideration to go with them.

Yes, reboots are free, but the point of having the APC is so I don't have to wait for datacenter staff to do it as not everywhere is as fast as RS when it comes to rebooting a server. It also takes away the hassle of contacting the DC staff and requesting the reboot etc.

are they offering cogent only servers?

So if you order the $99 server with 420 Gb of data, is your linespeed only a few megabits or what?

I dont understand :(

I ordered on June 27th. They have already billed me on July 1st. Still havn't got my server yet. I am wondering if anyone has got a server with them before? I am kind of worried.

Doesn't sound like anyone is giving them much of a chance.

It sounds like these guys are legit, and just expanding their business into other areas. Give them a chance before jumping to conclusions, and remember this....... Not eveyone is out to get you :D

Hope it works out.

Im sure they are legit.

I hope so (fingers crossed)

They have $150 of my money

But their price is a bite strange. Even Cogent sells 100mb/s for $3000. That means, it's $30 per mb/s.

And the price for transoptics.com is $75 for 3mb/s, that means it's $25 per mb/s. Why it's even lower than Cogent? Are they buy bulk from Cogent and they give them a discount, so they can offer such a low price?

Just want to clear things out and don't want to have problem later.

I'm surprised they haven't popped by this thread and explained whats going on/not going on.

Yes this would be nice of someone official can just post a few words.


Originally posted by JDMundo
I'm surprised they haven't popped by this thread and explained whats going on/not going on.

Well, I've had enough waiting so I cancelled my order. Sorry, but I don't have the luxury of beeing able to wait forever. I'm just happy they haven't charged my CC yet (or at least they hadn't when I checked with mastercard yesterday).

Pitty really, it could have been such a nice deal and I did tell Chavvon from day one I was on a deadline as I'm going abroad very soon for a month.

P.S. Would one of the persons that were already charged care to state what name the charge was under so I know what to ask Mastercard to look for next time I contact them? Was it under transoptics, hostmania....?

Hostmania

Primary red flags;

Doesn't use their own domain or list services on existing site.

Traceroute showed irsd.org so are they an organisation??.

Network information showed up

NS1.CATALOG.COM 209.217.1.2
NS2.CATALOG.COM 207.240.40.2
NS3.CATALOG.COM 209.217.16

Use of images initially ripped from Rackspace.com and changed once was questioned.

Lack of adequate responses in sales and support in a new venture.

Another red flag:

claiming to offer 3 mbps and server for less than $100/month

Guys/Gals,

Take a step back here, this is a NEW company emerging, give em time like you give others time.

Chavvon and myself have been speaking with each other, and ehm... lets say keep tuned for more news ;)

Imran

Originally posted by rastoma
Another red flag:

claiming to offer 3 mbps and server for less than $100/month

My old friend rastoma :stickout

Can I ask you why its NOT possible to offer 3mbps unmetered Cogent and server for less than $100?

Thanks.

P.S. I am eagerly awaiting your answer :rolleyes:

Yeah, I have the same question too.

Becasue what I think Cogent offer $3000 for 100mb/s, so it's $30 per mb/s.

But the price of transoptics.com is even lower. $75 for 3mb/s, that means it's $25 per mb/s.

Why their price is even lower than Cogent? The only reason that I can think of is Cogent offer them a even lower price, otherwise, I cannot think of any reason they can offer such a price.

I am not ISP nor hosting companies. May be I don't know some of the secert inside :stickout

If there is no strick inside, I will sure give them a try.

Originally posted by maxbear
Yeah, I have the same question too.

Becasue what I think Cogent offer $3000 for 100mb/s, so it's $30 per mb/s.

But the price of transoptics.com is even lower. $75 for 3mb/s, that means it's $25 per mb/s.

Why their price is even lower than Cogent? The only reason that I can think of is Cogent offer them a even lower price, otherwise, I cannot think of any reason they can offer such a price.

I am not ISP nor hosting companies. May be I don't know some of the secert inside :stickout

If there is no strick inside, I will sure give them a try.

maxbear,

I don't want to be the person that answers this for you, what I can do is get chavvon to shed some light on this situation, lets say if we (eServers dot Biz) were to offer this specific offer, would you be asking us the same question?

I can undertand your worries, about a new company, offering prices that the BIG BOYS havent been able to offer, but lets just wait and see what these guys can do.

Imran

I agree give them a chance, WHT is a very hard place to get started..... Let them have the chance instead of jumping on them...... LOL,,,,, I'm gonna get jumped on.... oh well it's Sunday here.... being jumped on, on a Sunday isn't allowed in NZ.

Have a great Sunday people when it's your turn :D

Seeing these threads turn into flaming sessions make me sad..... Let everyday be Sunday LOL :D

Well for me I have received a reply from Chavvon and he said the following regarding my credit card transaction and my server the following:

Brian,

I faxed in a request to have the funds released. We should be paid by Tues
or Wed on next week.

Sorry for all the inconvenience, these CC transactions get flaky sometimes.

Either way, your server should be online by Tues evening of next week. I
trust you.

regards,

CS


Now I have to wait, but I have never heared this before were a bank holds funds back until a company (Hostmania) faxes them a letterhead????

Just gota wait now till next Tuesday ;(

Brian

Well at least you know and if you don't get the server then, you will have a grumble...... Info is everything.

Yes, cabalstudios. Totally agree with you. I will wait and see.

It would be nice if they at least confirmed they received my order cancellation and processed it. I'm not saying this is a flakey company as I found Chavvon very helpfull and open, but I just can't wait till sometime next week to maybe finally get my server.
I am in the process of making other arrangments as we speak and I can't pay for 2 more dedicated servers when I only want one.

Should I need another server in the future I'll surely give Chavvon a call, but for now I'll have to find what I need elsewhere.

Originally posted by cabalstudios


My old friend rastoma :stickout

Can I ask you why its NOT possible to offer 3mbps unmetered Cogent and server for less than $100?

Thanks.

P.S. I am eagerly awaiting your answer :rolleyes:

You mean I have to explain why 1+1=2 and doesn't really equal 3? They are not offering a chunk of 'metered' space which is easy to play the overselling game with... they are offering a 3mbps unmetered connection. IMHO, which isn't worth much and probably worth even less to you since we've had our differences before... but it's not responsbile and not possible to guarantee everyone 3mbps unmetered connection.

Cogent we all know is $30/mbps so that's $90 but he's selling it under cost. So since he's selling it less than cost that means he is OVERSELLING it.... overselling dedicated bandwidth is a contradiction.

Robin, you are absolutely right. He (transoptics) also admitted (in his offer thread, after being questioned) that the connection he was selling was a cap, not a dedicated connection.

He is definitely overselling here, and not providing any form of dedicated bandwidth.

Peter

Originally posted by maxbear
Yeah, I have the same question too.

Becasue what I think Cogent offer $3000 for 100mb/s, so it's $30 per mb/s.

But the price of transoptics.com is even lower. $75 for 3mb/s, that means it's $25 per mb/s.

Why their price is even lower than Cogent? The only reason that I can think of is Cogent offer them a even lower price, otherwise, I cannot think of any reason they can offer such a price.



The only way you can get Cogent cheaper than $30/meg is if you have one of their 100mb subscriber lines which costs $10/meg. But you can't resell bw on a subsriber line.. that's why it's triple the cost for a line that you can resell bw on. Even a 1000mb line is the same $30/meg.

So they are playing a game... that no everyone is going to use all 3mb/s all the time. Since they are doing that they shouldn't be advertising it as 3mb/s they should advertise it that you have UP TO 3mb/s available to you IF no one else is using all of theirs at the time.

Originally posted by ckpeter
Robin, you are absolutely right. He (transoptics) also admitted (in his offer thread, after being questioned) that the connection he was selling was a cap, not a dedicated connection.

He is definitely overselling here, and not providing any form of dedicated bandwidth.

Peter

I haven't followed every response so.. not that he needs my approval or anything :) but it's good to see a little more resonableness in the description.

Originally posted by rastoma


I haven't followed every response so.. not that he needs my approval or anything :) but it's good to see a little more resonableness in the description.

I don't think they are mispresenting things too badly. They have tons of bandwidth I think because they also offer large customers offsite backup. They have a pipe which is wide enough to offer these customers a certain performance during peak times, but much of the time it is being unused. Webhosting isn't the only way they are making thier money off of this bandwidth so it changes thier business parameters. If they can track usage and trends, which Chevvon indidicated they could, there is no reason why there shouldn't be 3MB/S available when ever needed it. If every single server started hitting 3MB then of course something is going to suffer. It's like a freeway. There are traffic patterns which can be analysed. You can go 65MPH which is the posted speedlimit. Now if every single person in town all got on the highway at the exact same moment and expected to go 65MPH you'd have a big problem, but I dont think the Speed Limit 65MPH signs need to come down or that they are false advertising - the nice thing about bandwidth is the road can be widened when needed. :cool:

I wouldnt put too much trust in them, he sent me a deal a long time ago about how he could provide tier 1 premium t3 bandwidth for 3000.00 of course i looked into it, what he didnt tell you was it was cogent only or at least primarily. I wont deal with people who arent honest.

any updates?

nope, and I am getting very worried about this company as I see that my card has been charged on the July 2, but I have had no response from the whatsoever. I have called (both corporate, and chavvon's personal cell phone), emailed, done everything possible, but they will not respond. Guess I will just cancel the server because they knew that we were on a tight deadline.

-Steven

ill give them 24hours.


How to cancel a payment via paypal??

I was promised that my server will be active Tuesday night the latest. If this is a no go, then I will say that this is one big scam.

CS - Prove me wrong!

Brian :angry:

I think I'll be contacting my CC company tomorrow to make sure they didn't charge me. If they did they can expect a nice little chargeback...

Has anyone even spoken or received an email from him lately? I've tried emailing and calling serveral times and I never get a response.

Mark

Originally posted by dominet
How to cancel a payment via paypal??

Hmmm most of the times, you can't.
I wanted to cancel a payment with paypal once, but they said, once it is accepted by the other user, you can't get it back :(

You can cancel it before they accept it and thats the only time you can do it.

Originally posted by diederik


Hmmm most of the times, you can't.
I wanted to cancel a payment with paypal once, but they said, once it is accepted by the other user, you can't get it back :(

you can file a complaint with paypal. If the other party doesn't deliever, then PayPal will refund you.

PayPal will refund you but will make the other person pay you back. There paypal account will remain - and locked meaning you can't send funds and only accept.

Seems nobody here has received a Server.....i cant wait !!!

So that's been confirmed no one has received a server? The last message I've received from Chavvon was July 2nd, and since then I've sent about a half a dozen emails to him asking him what the hell is going on, and I haven't got a single reply. Perhaps he is overwhelmed?

Why would he wait to turn all the servers on at the same time? Wouldn't it be only logically to setup a few at a time, instead of 100 (or whatever it is) and activate them at the exact same time?

Either this guy needs some new staff members or he needs to get down to business, I've been waiting almost two weeks for my server that was supposed to take 3-5 days to be setup.

By the way for the PayPal complaint, there's no guarantee that you'll get your money back, they can only give you your money back if they can contact the other party involved, and collect the money from them.


--Jeff Dyer

From what I know, Chavvon is actually on a business trip to LA, thats why he's not responding to e-mail etc...

Imran

Hmmm.... Wow, so that's what he did with all our money heh heh heh, taking a trip to LA now.

I'm not sure about other people but just after I posted the previous reply I got a response from Chavvon. It didn't mention anything about a trip, but what it did mention is how he tore some ligaments and has been getting medical things straightened out.

He will contact me tonight regarding the server, I'll let everyone know how things work out...

--Jeff Dyer

If I had seen this thread sooner, I would have posted this earlier.

I ordered a customized server at TransOptics.com a couple of weeks ago, few days before everybody else started ordering. I have always experienced good help from Chavvon and his people - they make sure you receive a good and functional product, which is well worth some patience. Anyway, I received my server about 3-4 days after my order, so no reason to complain.

I see that a lot of you are loosing their faith in this company. All I can say is : how would you react if you suddenly received like 30-50 orders, and you need to configure every server individually ? I'm pretty sure no-one could ever work around such a list in a matter of hours. That's why it's taking some extra time. But, as I experienced, it is well worth some patience.

I'm in no way affiliated with this company, I'm just a little customer, but all I can say is : both thumbs up !

-Carl

Just been in contact with Chavvon, things are pretty hectic at the moment. I am sure he will contact you all when he gets the time.

he replied me!! im happy now! :)

Originally posted by Jeff2
Hmmm.... Wow, so that's what he did with all our money heh heh heh, taking a trip to LA now.

I'm not sure about other people but just after I posted the previous reply I got a response from Chavvon. It didn't mention anything about a trip, but what it did mention is how he tore some ligaments and has been getting medical things straightened out.

He will contact me tonight regarding the server, I'll let everyone know how things work out...

--Jeff Dyer


I got that email too! seems i got a BCC :D

Lets wait...

Originally posted by Mango
If I had seen this thread sooner, I would have posted this earlier.

I ordered a customized server at TransOptics.com a couple of weeks ago, few days before everybody else started ordering. I have always experienced good help from Chavvon and his people - they make sure you receive a good and functional product, which is well worth some patience. Anyway, I received my server about 3-4 days after my order, so no reason to complain.

I see that a lot of you are loosing their faith in this company. All I can say is : how would you react if you suddenly received like 30-50 orders, and you need to configure every server individually ? I'm pretty sure no-one could ever work around such a list in a matter of hours. That's why it's taking some extra time. But, as I experienced, it is well worth some patience.

I'm in no way affiliated with this company, I'm just a little customer, but all I can say is : both thumbs up !

-Carl

What server you got?? is it fast? how's the network?

Originally posted by dominet


What server you got?? is it fast? how's the network?

I have a PIII, SCSI harddisk and I'm very happy with the server. The network is extremely speedy as well, nothing to complain about. Upload/download speeds of 8MB (megabytes)/sec to other dedicated boxes !! :)

-Carl

Originally posted by Jeff2
Hmmm.... Wow, so that's what he did with all our money heh heh heh, taking a trip to LA now.

I'm not sure about other people but just after I posted the previous reply I got a response from Chavvon. It didn't mention anything about a trip, but what it did mention is how he tore some ligaments and has been getting medical things straightened out.

He will contact me tonight regarding the server, I'll let everyone know how things work out...

--Jeff Dyer

Jeff this was cancelled, like i said it was planned, but it never happend cause of the injury he sustained.

I owe some of you an apology. I had plans to give my staff some real vacation time while I covered the tech support and customer contact, but things didn't go as well as planned. Sunday evening, I was out with my 15 month old daughter and tripped coming down some steps. While keeping her from hitting the ground, I came down on my ankle and ripped some ligaments in the process. I had some work done on it yesterday and everything is back in order. (for now at least)

I haven't run off with anyone's money and definitely not trying to rip anyone off. Just trying to make the best of the situation. We are slower than usual, but I promise everyone will be more than satisfied with the service.

Also, I have some info to put the Cogent discussion to bed. Everyone is quoting Cogent bandwidth at $30/mb, so a dedicated 3mb/s connection doesn't make sense in some people's minds for $75/mo. I assume, that you don't know a 1,000 mb/s connection is only $20K/month.

regards,

CS

Originally posted by chavvon
Also, I have some info to put the Cogent discussion to bed. Everyone is quoting Cogent bandwidth at $30/mb, so a dedicated 3mb/s connection doesn't make sense in some people's minds for $75/mo. I assume, that you don't know a 1,000 mb/s connection is only $20K/month.


I waited for you to clear that up rather than me ;)

Imran

tuesday night here! any of you got the server today?

Originally posted by chavvon
Everyone is quoting Cogent bandwidth at $30/mb, so a dedicated 3mb/s connection doesn't make sense in some people's minds for $75/mo. I assume, that you don't know a 1,000 mb/s connection is only $20K/month.


$20k huh?

http://www.cogentco.com/serviceprovider/pricematrix.html

Originally posted by cabalstudios


I waited for you to clear that up rather than me ;)

Imran

Imran seems to agree that it is in fact $20k a month for the 1000mbit connection. Seeing as he does something important at eservers.biz I would think he knows what he's talking about.

Jeez people why are you so quick to jump on people.

ACTUALLY cogent gige lines ARE 30,000.00 now they use to be 20,000.00 up to a couple of months ago then they raised prices.

No but waiting for the big turn on.

Originally posted by Realist
No but waiting for the big turn on.


/me rubs Realist :D

James

LOL Owe Yeh

Okay~

Has anyone got a server yet, I thought the new batch of servers should arrive on Tues (7/9). But I have not yet received anything. I have been waiting for two weeks now. I called them multiple time. No one is taking calls. I really hope they can deliver they they offered.

im still waiting!

I just lost one customer because of this :(

I just lost one customer because of this

:bawling: :bawling:

My server got activated about an hour ago. I guess I'm the first one here who got their server.

It's great. Nothing to complain about =)

--Jeff Dyer

Nice to hear Jeff everything is good

Originally posted by Jeff2
My server got activated about an hour ago. I guess I'm the first one here who got their server.

It's great. Nothing to complain about =)

--Jeff Dyer


Great!! I need my server!!!!

oh well good luck bud. is it fast?

Originally posted by dominet



Great!! I need my server!!!!

oh well good luck bud. is it fast?

Yes it's very fast. I'm getting about 100 KB/s upload speed (from my computer to server), and even faster downloading (from the server to my comptuer).

--Jeff Dyer

Where is the server physically located? try to download (from your server) ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z to test the speed.

And it's actually a lot faster than that.

I did the good ol' UU Test and this is what I got nearly 6 Mb/s!

wget -P ~ ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z


-- Jeff Dyer

sweet!! what server is it? processor? hd? ram?

Originally posted by dominet
sweet!! what server is it? processor? hd? ram?
It's the pure Cogent "3 Mb/s" and I got a P3 866, 40 GIG, 512 RAM...

Good deal if I do say so myself. I could have gotten a Cel 1 Ghz, but I figured the P3 866 would be just as good and I didn't want to wait for it to come in.

--Jeff Dyer

im waiting a p3 1ghz

any of you with chavvon's mobile phone number?

I contacted their sales email several days ago without a reply...

Originally posted by cabalstudios
Nice to hear Jeff everything is good


You seem to have taken a special interest and liking to this company.... are leaving dv2 to start selling servers with trans? :)

Originally posted by Jeff2
I did the good ol' UU Test and this is what I got nearly 6 Mb/s!


I assume you said 6 Megabits/s ? Not to shabby though not the fastest I have seend. I have seen people hitting 4.5 Mega Bytes/s, and now that's fast :)

Originally posted by clockwork
I contacted their sales email several days ago without a reply...

Try e-mailing them again. I'm not a customer yet but all my questions have been responded to promptly and courteously. Chavvron's a nice guy, just a little busy sometimes :) .

Originally posted by FHDave


I assume you said 6 Megabits/s ? Not to shabby though not the fastest I have seend. I have seen people hitting 4.5 Mega Bytes/s, and now that's fast :)

I never knew that you could see how many mbit/sec you do when you download, Its always MB/Sec or KB/Sec ... Unless im wrong ...

Originally posted by Jeff2

It's the pure Cogent "3 Mb/s" and I got a P3 866, 40 GIG, 512 RAM...

Good deal if I do say so myself. I could have gotten a Cel 1 Ghz, but I figured the P3 866 would be just as good and I didn't want to wait for it to come in.

--Jeff Dyer

Hi Jeff,

Perhaps your link is not capped to 3 mbit/sec since that can only give you a maximum of less than 300KByte / sec throughput, certainly way below 6MByte/sec. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

My rough calculation is based on the fact that it normally takes 10 bits per data byte (20% physical and lower layers overhead).

#$!^$#&^%@#&$ Still waiting for my server!! no answer from any of their support/sales email!! and always an answering machine.

:bawling:

Originally posted by cabalstudios


I never knew that you could see how many mbit/sec you do when you download, Its always MB/Sec or KB/Sec ... Unless im wrong ...

I suppose you are right, normally transfer rates on the applications can only be measured in (K|M)byte/sec unless if they multiply it by the corresponding value (normally 8 to get bit/sec from byte/sec) - for example some download manager software in windows give this option.

I think the reason FHDave thought it was 6 mega bits / sec is due to the fact that we are quite impressed, if not in disbelief, that it can reach transfer rate that high, especially when it is a capped 3mbps link (see my previous post).

My LAN which runs on 100mbps at home can normally transfer at around 7-9MByte/sec during quiet time provided that the client software doesn't do too much refresh on the screen which causes the transfer speed to slow down a lot (shows a bad design of the display routine).

so, what do you think?

Just received email from Chavvon that I will have my server with the hour or so.

Will keep you all informed.


Thanks Chavvon :)

Regards,

Brian

Great! i got the same email!

keep us posted :)

They look very professional. They offered me an APC for $10/mo 0/setup...i'll consider it.

Owe - Nice deal Joman :)

Originally posted by dominet
They look very professional. They offered me an APC for $10/mo 0/setup...i'll consider it.

No it wasn't 6 MegaBytes per second it was 6 Megabits I just converted it over to show everyone it was a lot greater than 3 Mb/s which is supposed to be the cap.

It actually worked out to 748.25 KB/s


Now I get: 231.74 KB/s (works out to about 2 Mb/s), then take into concideration my site bandwidth and you get your 3 Mb/s. Looks like the line is now capped.


--Jeff Dyer

Received our passwords and IP to our server but it missing Ensim and mysql?

Thought this was part of the package?

Brian

Just received an email from CS and found out that there is NO panel with the cogent offer?

Bugger in hell ^%^%$^%$^%


Not my day?

Brian

Originally posted by Realist
Just received an email from CS and found out that there is NO panel with the cogent offer?

Bugger in hell ^%^%$^%$^%


Not my day?

Brian

was it in the offer saying there was one?

ask him how much it would cost to add one.

Im still waiting :(

edit out per request

Originally posted by Realist
Just received an email from CS and found out that there is NO panel with the cogent offer?

Bugger in hell ^%^%$^%$^%


Not my day?

Brian I do not recall Ensim beeing offered in the Cogent package. You're getting Cogent transfer as cheap as it comes, do you think he has the profit margin on this to go giving a free control panel too?

who else is waiting for servers? Seems im the only one...:bawling:

I just got my server from Chavvon today and I starting to play around with it now! I got the pure Cogent setup for $75/month. I haven't setup my site, so I can't comment on the speed yet, but I'll let everyone know once I get everything done. I suck at server admin stuff so it takes me a while :p

Mark

To add Ensim to a cogent setup costs an additional $15 a month, as per CS first post.

Regards,

Brian

w00t! got my server! FAST! GREAT! MultiHomed! Im happy know! Great service.

Originally posted by Realist
To add Ensim to a cogent setup costs an additional $15 a month, as per CS first post.


Got my server Friday afternoon, so far so good!

Seems fast to me:

20:15:48 (715.07 KB/s) - `/root/uumap.tar.Z' saved [8520221]

I too am toughing it out without the benefit of a control panel. I want to beef up my server admin skills, as this was one of the primary reasons I jumped on the low cost cogent offering; as a learning experience.

So far I have a working qmail "toaster" set up and apache with php and mysql. I have myphpadmin set up and apparently working with a serverwide administration. Mysql users can add new databases and administer them themselves.

It seems with these in place much of the control panel functionality is served. Domain postmasters can add email users and mailing lists and email users themselves can change passwords and read webmail using sqwebmail. SMTP-AUTH also seems to work! QMail and vpop looks pretty good.

The missing link is the dns stuff and the virtual domains.

Setting up virtual domains doesn't look too hard with Apache, I may use webmin or do that manually.

The dns stuff is the biggest hurdle - I'm afraid I just haven't quite got a handle on it yet! (pointers gratefully accepted)

Some of that will have to wait until I can figure out how to get the ip to resolve, Chavvon didn't send me any information on DNS setup and I fear I may be stuck for the rest of the weekend :( he only sent me one ip a usename and a couple of passwords. Does anyone know if transoptics has dns servers we can set up on or any info that might help me make some further progress?

Got mine as well, fast as lightning and smooth as a babies bum :)

The only thing thats missing is mysql and Im unable to (wget) download anything to the server?

Have asked for a price for H-SPHERE to be installed but as yet no reply from anyone at Hostmania or CS himself.

They cant be working 24/7 and if I needed support thay are dam slow to reply to emails, so far sent a few and not one replied to?

Not a happy shopper so far but at least Im willing to give them a chance and see were it goes.

Regards,

Brian

My server is super fast, but i can't use it since they created a weird partition scheme.

Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 30233928 140460 28557656 1% /
/dev/hda6 2071384 377536 1588624 20% /home
none 256592 0 256592 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 4822848 1078192 3499668 24% /usr
/dev/hda7 256667 25356 218059 11% /var


cpanel stores websites in /home. So i need lot of space there. Just emailed them this afternoon to re install using only /boot with 100mb and / with the rest. No answer yet. Seems they dont work on weekends! :(

Well, that's one of the reasons I gave up on Chavvon, it sometimes took him a long time to reply to emails, but it was just a contributing factor. Still not very professional to keep you guys waiting for an answer and very unusual to allocate so little space to /home as these are web machines. Even FDCservers allocated 30 of my 40 GIGS to /home...

@ Realist, when I was talking to Chavvon about a server he quoted me H-Sphere at $4.50 a licence (owned) and free installation, hope that gives you an idea of the price. They only offered owned licences, not internal ones, at the time I asked about it.

I got my server too. I got 700KB/s with my 3Mbps capped line. Not sure why it is twice faster than the thoery speed. Could it be no capping with upload??

how is your partition eiv?

I am confused with this? He did reply to my email and said its $4.50 per domain? how is this charged to me?

So do you mean that if I get a 100 domain license its going to cost me $450.00?

Anyone tell us how this H-SPHERE license works?

Thanks,

Brian


Originally posted by Tazzman
@ Realist, when I was talking to Chavvon about a server he quoted me H-Sphere at $4.50 a licence (owned) and free installation, hope that gives you an idea of the price. They only offered owned licences, not internal ones, at the time I asked about it.

Weird partition my ass :angry: this is so far one big piss take :angry:

I personally dont think they know what they are doing.

Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 30233928 61028 28637088 1% /
/dev/hda1 46636 4408 39820 10% /boot
/dev/hda6 1850004 376 1755652 1% /home
none 256592 0 256592 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 5044188 683432 4104520 15% /usr
/dev/hda7 256667 20322 223093 9% /var

Looks like one big mess?

:angry:

Brian

Looks like a good partition scheme to me, maybe just the size of the partitions are not in line with what you want.

I always strictly specify the partition scheme I would like on my order forms.

Multiple partitions are good for quota's and nosuid's for /home partitions.

Much better for security with multiple partitions.

BTW; you can change the partitions yourself if you wanted to

I have never played with a server to the extent of re arranging the partitions.

I just want a server that has all the usual stuff installed and working.

The only thing I want now is a panel to work with.

How do you re arrange them as Im used to looking at one main partition and a boot sector.

Thanks,

Brian

Originally posted by Realist
Weird partition my ass :angry: this is so far one big piss take :angry:

I personally dont think they know what they are doing.

Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 30233928 61028 28637088 1% /
/dev/hda1 46636 4408 39820 10% /boot
/dev/hda6 1850004 376 1755652 1% /home
none 256592 0 256592 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 5044188 683432 4104520 15% /usr
/dev/hda7 256667 20322 223093 9% /var

Looks like one big mess?

:angry:

Brian

That is a pretty good partition scheme for a cpanel server. Granted, I think mor of the space should be in /home rather than putting so much in /, but for a good example of a partition scheme, you can take a look at http://genesis.2hostdns.com/sysinfo/index.php and scroll to the bottom. That is a cpanel server used for webhosting.

I have not got cpanel installed?

:)

Brian

Originally posted by Marty


That is a pretty good partition scheme for a cpanel server. Granted, I think mor of the space should be in /home rather than putting so much in /, but for a good example of a partition scheme, you can take a look at http://genesis.2hostdns.com/sysinfo/index.php and scroll to the bottom. That is a cpanel server used for webhosting.

Just dig around psoft.net for the H-Sphere licencing info. I think it's something like each licence gives your the right to host 10 domains or subdomains or something down that street.

You buy the licences and they are added to your pool. As soon as you have used up all your licences your pool will be empty and you can't add any more sites unless you buy additional licences.

you can usually change the partitions in the install GUI, for freeBSD it is /stand/sysinstall - If you are running redhat, check their website for howto's and play with fstab

any of you using cpanel on a hostmania server?

dominet,
We are using cpanel on the server here with hostmania.

-Steven

i installed cpanel, but having problems with frontpage and mysql :( weird

what kind of problems?

You can find help from forums.cpanel.net.

Unless you mean transoptics is responsible for this?

Peter

It seems most people get their server already. Could anyone give me some feeback on the network speed? I really interest in their 3mb/s Cogent package.

I have one and yes its blistering speed

Originally posted by dominet
i installed cpanel, but having problems with frontpage and mysql :( weird

Not any more.... it appears everything is running like it should now.

Originally posted by maxbear
It seems most people get their server already. Could anyone give me some feeback on the network speed? I really interest in their 3mb/s Cogent package.

maxbear,
The network speed is crazy, I'm still getting 6Mb/s +.

Support is really good too, getting a lot better than what it was one week ago.

--Jeff Dyer

Thanks. Just talk to Chavvon. Going to order a server. Thanks. :)

Originally posted by Jeff2
maxbear,
The network speed is crazy, I'm still getting 6Mb/s +.

Support is really good too, getting a lot better than what it was one week ago.
--Jeff Dyer

Jeff2, are you getting this speed with the Cogent bandwidth package? If so that's great!

I'm still setting up my server so I haven't really seen what kind of bandwidth speed I'll be getting.

Thanks,

Mark

I'm curious how the speed is at night. Since he said the pipes are mostly used for backup transfer and that's done at night.

Originally posted by LancerForums


Jeff2, are you getting this speed with the Cogent bandwidth package? If so that's great!

I'm still setting up my server so I haven't really seen what kind of bandwidth speed I'll be getting.

Thanks,

Mark
Yes it's with the Cogent Bandwidth package. I don't think they have had a chance yet to cap the lines. You can test the speed using the following command:
wget -P ~ ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z

Well! Its just amazing!!!! TransOptic support and network is OUTSTANDING!!

My cpanel provider (virtualnet.net ) fixed cpanel, and its running smooth!!

wget -P ~ ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
--22:11:32-- ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
=> `/root/uumap.tar.Z'
Resolving ftp.uu.net... done.
Connecting to ftp.uu.net[192.48.96.9]:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD not needed.
==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR uumap.tar.Z ... done.
Length: 8,520,221 (unauthoritative)

100%[====================================>] 8,520,221 765.60K/s ETA 00:00

22:11:47 (765.60 KB/s) - `/root/uumap.tar.Z' saved [8520221]

root@host7 [~]#


11PM

nice speeds

Their website has been off and on for the past few days, usually taking forever to load...is this due to a network problem affecting you customers as well or is it unrelated? Some updates plus any feedback from those on the Internap network would be appreciated.

Internap is VERY fast! No problems, no downtimes (i only have 4 days with them)

hey dominet,
It looks like we are capped on the internap network, can you verify that with your box. See I get 4.5mb/s when I wget ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z from another box, but from this one on the internap network I only get 8-900kb/s.

Thanks
Steven

OK who has server and how is everything? How do you find the service and how easy is it to get in touch in case you need a reboot etc?

Which bandwidth do you have and how is the speeds now?

Thanks

My server speed at Transoptics :)

Great service, great speeds and a great company to boot. More than happy and pleased.

$ wget -P ~ ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
--12:36:48-- ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
=> `/home/hostman/uumap.tar.Z'
Connecting to ftp.uu.net:21... connected!
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD not needed.
==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR uumap.tar.Z ... done.
Length: 8,520,221 (unauthoritative)

0K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 0% @ 161.29 KB/s
50K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 1% @ 847.46 KB/s
100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 1% @1000.00 KB/s
150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 2% @ 833.33 KB/s
^
^
^
^
8050K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 97% @1020.41 KB/s
8100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 97% @ 943.40 KB/s
8150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 98% @1000.00 KB/s
8200K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% @1000.00 KB/s
8250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% @ 1.04 MB/s
8300K .......... .......... 100% @ 1.67 MB/s

12:37:00 (1011.12 KB/s) - `/home/hostman/uumap.tar.Z' saved

Thanks Chavvon :)

Brian James
Deahost

:D

hehe Thanks Shazad and the guys at DV2:- :D

bash$ wget -P ~ ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
--00:00:41-- ftp://ftp.uu.net/uumap.tar.Z
=> `/home/censored/uumap.tar.Z'
Connecting to ftp.uu.net:21... connected!
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD not needed.
==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR uumap.tar.Z ... done.
Length: 8,520,221 (unauthoritative)

0K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 0% @ 416.67 KB/s
50K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 1% @ 1.88 MB/s
100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 1% @ 2.03 MB/s
150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 2% @ 2.71 MB/s
200K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 3% @ 2.57 MB/s
250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 3% @ 2.22 MB/s
300K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 4% @ 1.32 MB/s
350K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 4% @ 1.36 MB/s
400K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 5% @ 2.22 MB/s
450K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 6% @ 2.03 MB/s
500K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 6% @ 2.03 MB/s
550K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 7% @ 2.33 MB/s
600K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 7% @ 2.22 MB/s
650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 8% @ 2.57 MB/s
700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 9% @ 2.12 MB/s
750K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 9% @ 2.22 MB/s
800K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 10% @ 2.57 MB/s
850K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 10% @ 1.48 MB/s
.......... .......... .......... .......... 60% @ 1.81 MB/s
EDITED FOR SIZE.......... .......... .......... .......... 76% @1020.41 KB/s
6350K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 76% @ 1.40 MB/s
6400K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 77% @ 1.22 MB/s
6450K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 78% @ 925.93 KB/s
6500K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 78% @ 1.19 MB/s
6550K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 79% @ 1.14 MB/s
6600K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 79% @ 1.19 MB/s
6650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 80% @ 1.44 MB/s
6700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 81% @ 1.58 MB/s
6750K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 81% @ 1.68 MB/s
6800K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 82% @ 1.48 MB/s
6850K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 82% @ 1.58 MB/s
6900K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 83% @ 1.53 MB/s
6950K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 84% @ 1.44 MB/s
7000K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 84% @ 1.40 MB/s
7050K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 85% @ 1.74 MB/s
7100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 85% @ 1.63 MB/s
7150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 86% @ 2.22 MB/s
7200K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 87% @ 2.12 MB/s
7250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 87% @ 1.81 MB/s
7300K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 88% @ 1.63 MB/s
7350K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 88% @ 1.58 MB/s
7400K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 89% @ 1.74 MB/s
7450K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 90% @ 1.58 MB/s
7500K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 90% @ 2.33 MB/s
7550K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 91% @ 2.44 MB/s
7600K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 91% @ 1.81 MB/s
7650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 92% @ 2.33 MB/s
7700K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 93% @ 1.88 MB/s
7750K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 93% @ 2.87 MB/s
7800K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 94% @ 1.95 MB/s
7850K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 94% @ 2.12 MB/s
7900K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 95% @ 1.81 MB/s
7950K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 96% @ 2.12 MB/s
8000K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 96% @ 1.74 MB/s
8050K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 97% @ 1.88 MB/s
8100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 97% @ 1.88 MB/s
8150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 98% @ 1.63 MB/s
8200K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% @ 1.95 MB/s
8250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 99% @ 1.74 MB/s
8300K .......... .......... 100% @ 2.51 MB/s

00:00:49 (1.88 MB/s)
And thing are pretty slow tonight.... I usually get 4.5 - 8 MB/s
:D

Deahost

Is yours on the cognet bandwidth?

Are the Cogent servers capped at 3 megabytes/sec or 3 megabits/sec?

Yes

Originally posted by Monte
Deahost

Is yours on the cognet bandwidth?

Originally posted by mushrew
Are the Cogent servers capped at 3 megabytes/sec or 3 megabits/sec?

I'm sure its 3mbit

I have the Cogent bandwidth Celeron server setup. I was busy installing a few additions, etc so I haven't been back here to reply about the setup.

Chavvon answers my emails very quickly. When I initially got the server, the partitions were weird, so I emailed him and they redid the server with the partitions I specified the next morning.

So far, things have been very good... no downtime, good speed, etc. I haven't setup DNS for my url, but you can see the site from the ip right now if you like:

http://66.28.95.136

Mark

do i need 2 know ALOT about linux 2 use this?

Yes. You need to have basic Linux administration knowledge to operate a dedicated server.

Peter

:(

cant i just get a web panel and use that?

A "panel" will only assist you in creating accounts & managing them. You need to know how to upgrade software, secure your box, and much much more. Its not as simple as one would hope.

ok, is there any hosts that offer almost the same package but more expensive

Take a look at the dedicated server offer forum, and also do some searches yourself.

Peter

ok, is there any hosts that offer almost the same package but more expensive

I will be glad to offer you the same package and you can pay twice as much or if you want to 100 times as much. I will make it as expensive as you want.

Originally posted by Incognito


I will be glad to offer you the same package and you can pay twice as much or if you want to 100 times as much. I will make it as expensive as you want.

Don't cheat yourself. He asked for something *almost* the same. :D

:)

10mb from rackshack looks ok, but that setup fee is a bit steep

The setup fee is how they recoup the initial investment on the server.

Peter

Originally posted by Incognito


I will be glad to offer you the same package and you can pay twice as much or if you want to 100 times as much. I will make it as expensive as you want.

Heh, same thing ran through my mind when I read that, too...