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View Full Version : Dedicated Server w/firewall and unmetered 3mb/s connection only $75/mo
chavvon 06-25-2002, 06:29 PM No contract needed. Month to month services only.
We currently have two promotions. One with pure Cogent connectivity and the other with connectivity from 9 Tier 1 providers.
The pure Cogent connectivity promotion is for a Celeron 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB ram, and a 40 GB HDD with a 3 mb/s unmetered connection for $75/mo with a $75 install.
Our other promotion places your web server about 50 ft from direct connectivity to all of the following. UUnet, ATT, Sprint, Genuity, Global Crossing, Cable and Wireless, Qwest, Verio and one more Tier 1 provider. This allows us to offer 55ms or better response times and 100% uptime guarantee for all network connectivity. This is the Internap network. We offer credits when we miss SLA objectives (~2 days for each occurrence). The server is a Celeron 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB ram, 40 GB HDD, and 420 GB transfer for $99/mo and a $99 install. Ensim 3.1 is included.
Our Cogent gateway is 66.28.28.90 and this InterNap nameserver is in our cage (216.52.190.1). Ping and traceroute from various looking glasses for response times and multiple paths to our datacenter. Our Cogent link hasn't been down in 9 months (we've only had it 9 months).
EVERY server is behind a firewall for prevention of DOS/DDOS, SYN Flood and a whole list of other hacker attacks. Contact me for the entire list. This ensures you're not wasting resources on unwanted traffic types. We also have 400 GB of cache in place to accelerate web page access. Other network features available are server load balancing, SSL acceleration, full blown firewalls, rate limiting by traffic type, and Intrusion detection to name a few.
Additional Cogent bandwidth is $30 per mb (unmetered) and Internap bandwidth is $1.25/GB over 420 GB.
See our Cogent ping times below.
From 66.28.28.90 to www.verio.com (204.0.52.20) min/avg/max=84ms/84ms/84ms
From 66.28.28.90 to www.CW.com (204.71.140.70) min/avg/max=80ms/80ms/80ms
From 66.28.28.90 to www.att.com (135.145.9.134) min/avg/max=44ms/44ms/44ms
From 66.28.28.90 to www.qwest.com (199.168.32.62) min/avg/max=58ms/58ms/58ms
Upgrade cost:
Add 512 mb memory: $29/mo and $29 setup
Upgrade to PIII 1 Ghz: One time fee of $99
Add 40 GB HDD : One time fee of $99
Add Ensim to Cogent promo: $15/mo
Full Firewall: $29/mo
Data backup: $2/Gb per month
All servers are based on Red Hat 7.2
24/7 live support and reboots are free with 25 minute response time guarantees. We ping your server and if it stops responding, we will send you a notice and automatically reboot your server (you can disable this feature). You can also subscribe to a software management package that will give you software updates for a small monthly fee.
Contact sales@transoptics.com for more information and to place an order. We have fixed quantities of servers so these will go fast.
Thirdbrain 06-25-2002, 06:45 PM what kind of control panel are you offering
Tazzman 06-25-2002, 06:51 PM I'm already talking to him and they're very helpfull. As of today they are an official H-Sphere reseller :)
Nadav 06-25-2002, 06:53 PM Great offer.
And one thing, what about extra IPs?
ckpeter 06-25-2002, 07:00 PM Any option for more powerful hardware?
Peter
chavvon 06-25-2002, 07:05 PM Extra IPs are free once you use your first set. (2 in the begginning). We also require name based hosting where possible.
We do have more powerful servers. After 6PM or so, go to www.transoptics.com/hostmania and you will see the site we are putting on line in the next day or so. It has some nice details.
CS
chavvon 06-25-2002, 07:24 PM Control panels are up to you. We offer Ensim in our packages and we also have H-Spere available. If you want Plesk or some othe control panel, contact us and we'll make it happen.
Regards,
CS
LancerForums 06-25-2002, 07:30 PM This looks like a great deal! I'm very interested in purchasing a server. I'd like to have a control panel like H-Sphere to admin subdomains, but I also require things like the Zend Optimizer, GD2.0.1, and ImageMagick... will those cause problems? If so, what is included in a standard server.
Thanks,
Mark
chavvon 06-25-2002, 07:50 PM This is your server, so you decide the programs. Can you send links to the software you mentioned to support@transoptics.com
i.e. Zend Optimizer, GD2.0.1, and ImageMagick
My tech guys will research them and have a price for you pretty quickly. Once we have the package loaded, we can deploy them on multiple servers in a matter of minutes.
CS
LancerForums 06-25-2002, 08:12 PM chavvon, thanks for the quick response. I have emailed the tech support and look forward to your response.
Mark
PhilKali 06-25-2002, 08:15 PM Do you have any servers outside of the US?
Tazzman 06-25-2002, 08:54 PM I've ordered one of the 3MBIT deals, be it with a P3 800 mhz they still had in stock. So far they have been very flexible and very helpfull and this is one of the few places I found that supports H-Sphere. I'll post an update when my server goes online.
chavvon 06-25-2002, 09:13 PM We have a datacenter going online in London in the next 2-3 months. Nothing as of today.
Our Internap connectivity has some pretty nice performance times in Asia and Europe. Go to some looking glasses and test the IPs.
Regards,
CS
DomiNET.net 06-25-2002, 10:41 PM why memory have a monthly fee? :(
dektong 06-25-2002, 10:50 PM Originally posted by dominet
why memory have a monthly fee? :(
Oh Come on ... you are talking only few buck/mo :eek:. Look at the bandwith quality you are getting at that price (InterNAP). This is no cogent, and I myself can't believe this!
regards,
-dave
thesmallguyshost 06-25-2002, 10:51 PM Originally posted by chavvon
The pure Cogent connectivity promotion is for a Celeron 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB ram, and a 40 GB HDD with a 3 mb/s unmetered connection for $75/mo with a $75 install.
connectivity. This is the Internap network. We offer credits when we miss SLA objectives (~2 days for each occurrence). The server is a Celeron 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB ram, 40 GB HDD, and 420 GB transfer for $99/mo and a $99 install. Ensim 3.1 is included.
Additional Cogent bandwidth is $30 per mb (unmetered) and Internap bandwidth is $1.25/GB over 420 GB.
Some will thing I'm trying to bash another host but I'm not. I just want to make sure I really understand what you're doing here.
You are advertising 3 megs of Cogent bandwidth for $75/month INCLUDING the server. By you offering a set amount you have to be guaranteeing each server can pull 3 megs/sec. This is not the same trick we all play where you sell 300-400 gigs of bandwidth on the basis that everyone doesn't use it all. You can't oversell unmetered set amounts of transfer.
Well, the cheapest price anyone can get Cogent bandwidth for is $30/meg (unless someone is illegally selling a consumer 100mb line that doesn't allow reselling off of). So you're giving 3 megs which means it costs you $90/month. But you're selling it for $75 INCLUDING the server. Please explain how this can be done?
Also, Internap bandwidth costs AROUND $250/month in bulk... maybe a little cheaper if you have LOT of bandwidth.. but I doubt possible to get it cheaper than $175/meg. So you're giving 450 megs of bw which is over a meg of bandwidth for $99/month.
At your cost of $1.25 per gig for Internap for overages then I would I would guess your cost is around $250-$300/meg.
For Cogent you selling extra megs of Cogent at cost.... $30/meg.
Again don't take offense. But how is this possible? Again you can't over sell megs of bw because you're offering a set amount of 3 megs per server. So that means you can only have 33 servers per 100mb line, because if you oversold it then you couldn't be giving 3 megs to EACH server.
1x100mb line costs $3000. 33 servers times $75/month is $2475/month.
What am I missing?
chavvon 06-25-2002, 10:58 PM When you visit www.TransOptics.com you'll see that
we deal with data backup, business continuance etc. When you back up data, everything occurs at night time. That means we have a multi-million dollar infrastructure running at 1-4% utilization during the day. The pipes are already paid for by other lines of business so we can be very competitive in the web hosting arena. We do some much volume on the data backup side that our pricing is probably much different than what you've seen :) It's a result of being part of a shared infrastructure group.
Performance will be good and you always have the option to leave. We don't require a contract. Saying that, we have to keep good network performance or all of our customers will just go to the next guy. You're protected no matter what. Our core business is Fortune 1000 customers and they demand the best
performance. Web hosting is all word of mouth and if customers are not happy, your're going to tell everyone.
Saying that, you can see that our network is basically free for our web hosting customers. Our core line pays for it and everything else just goes along for the ride. As a result, none of your math applies to TransOptics.
I didn't take your remarks personally or negatively, it was a good question.
Regards,
CS
chavvon 06-25-2002, 11:07 PM One more thing....
Your math forgot to account for traffic patterns. First off, anyone that runs at 3 mb/s is not going to order a 3 mb/s link because peak formance will be terrrible.
Secondly, all web sites have different peak times. East cost sites may peak at 1 PM which is before the west cost peak time 3-4 hours later.
A business web site is going to peak during business hours and a dating site will peak at night time/evening. Peak and off-peak traffic is often multiples of one another. (3:1, 5:1 etc.)
We have some nice trending software that keeps us on the ball. Traffic patterns aren't as black and white as 3 mbs * 33 servers = 99 mb/s
Regards,
CS
ckpeter 06-25-2002, 11:10 PM So this isn't 3Mbs of *dedicated* bandwidth?
Peter
DomiNET.net 06-25-2002, 11:11 PM do we have to pay extra tax? where are you located?
Marshall 06-25-2002, 11:14 PM Why is www.transoptics.com hosted at Catalog.com?
chavvon 06-25-2002, 11:29 PM Peter,
How did you conclude that this isn't 3 mb/s dedicated bandwidth?
If you get to use 3 mb/s whenever you want it, that qualifies as dedicated.
about catalog.com
We run networks, not web sites. If any of you wans to host the web site, it's yours.
CS
chavvon 06-25-2002, 11:30 PM We're located in TX.
DomiNET.net 06-25-2002, 11:32 PM so i have to add taxes? where to order? how much time for server setup?
ckpeter 06-25-2002, 11:34 PM Originally posted by chavvon
Peter,
How did you conclude that this isn't 3 mb/s dedicated bandwidth?
If you get to use 3 mb/s whenever you want it, that qualifies as dedicated.
Well, I am certainly no expert in networking, but isn't dedicated defined as "dedicated aside just for you"?
What you have described seems to be unmetered connection with 3 mbs *cap*.
Peter
DomiNET.net 06-25-2002, 11:35 PM any 60gb drives available?
chavvon 06-25-2002, 11:45 PM Peter,
That means that no one gets dedicated connectivity. I know my provider didn't set aside 1/12 of the OC48 just for me. I'll have to agree with you and say that dedicated bandwidth doesn't exist. We all buy capped unmetered connectivity from tier 1 providers and that's what you get from me. You have a full 3 mb/s connection available to you whenever you need it. No restrictions.
Call it what you want to.
Regards,
CS
chavvon 06-25-2002, 11:46 PM Dominet,
Contact sales@transoptics.com and all of your specifics will be addressed. We can offer 60 GB harddrives.
CS
DomiNET.net 06-25-2002, 11:50 PM sounds 2g2bt (too good to be true)....i think ill try one..
What motherboards do you use?
MKelso 06-25-2002, 11:58 PM If this is all genuine then good luck with the promotion, but just curious why the united states flage image and text is used at the top of your HostMania page considering the first thing that popped in my mind was Rackspace.com where i know that image has existed for some while in their pages.
RackMy.com 06-26-2002, 12:27 AM popped in my mind was Rackspace.com Think you mean RackSHACK?
Aussie Bob 06-26-2002, 03:32 AM Our other promotion places your web server about 50 ft from direct connectivity to all of the following. UUnet, ATT, Sprint, Genuity, Global Crossing, Cable and Wireless, Qwest, Verio and one more Tier 1 provider. This allows us to offer 55ms or better response times and 100% uptime guarantee for all network connectivity. This is the Internap network. We offer credits when we miss SLA objectives (~2 days for each occurrence). The server is a Celeron 1 Ghz processor, 512 MB ram, 40 GB HDD, and 420 GB transfer for $99/mo and a $99 install.
That sounds way too good to be true. :eek:
What am I missing here?? If not, I'll take one now. :)
MKelso 06-26-2002, 06:06 AM No, i did mean Rackspace.com where i have my servers as thats how it automatically made me think of that image at the top of the page.....
http://www.rackspace.com/dedicated/dedicated_overview.php
Matrix 06-26-2002, 11:01 AM MKelso,
That flag that Hostmania has up is not the same one as rackspace so what are you talking about?
chavvon,
Will you have pictures of your datacenter up on the new site soon?
Nadav 06-26-2002, 06:26 PM I think i'll get one myself. Are there any extra charges to move from the cogent plan to the multi-home one (apart from the additional $25/month)? Where can I see your AUP?
MKelso 06-26-2002, 07:10 PM Matrix, it was the Rackspace image and it does now seem that that has been changed in a hurry since I do not post at all unless i have my facts straight.
Goood luck with your offer chavvon...
Revelation 06-26-2002, 09:43 PM Will/Can you load other OSes onto the servers?
thesmallguyshost 06-27-2002, 01:12 AM Originally posted by chavvon
Peter,
How did you conclude that this isn't 3 mb/s dedicated bandwidth?
If you get to use 3 mb/s whenever you want it, that qualifies as dedicated.
about catalog.com
We run networks, not web sites. If any of you wans to host the web site, it's yours.
CS
Ok... I think I understand now. You're not giving a dedicated 3mb/s connection, you're allowing UP to 3mb/s in traffic. Right? How I was doing math is that it is simple to figure out that if you successfull in this, which I really hope you are, there will be enough people in each peak time as you pointed out to use a full 100mb line and when that happens it seems that they will either not have 3mb/s left for each or you will be losing money.
But I'll be interested to follow your business. I may even have to have get one for myself eventually :)
Tazzman 06-27-2002, 07:02 AM Actually, as it was explained to me you get a capped 3MBIT line and it is completely yours. This does mean you can't burst beyond the 3 MBIT, but $25 per MBIT including a half decent server, I'll give them a try :)
thesmallguyshost 06-27-2002, 10:33 AM Originally posted by Tazzman
Actually, as it was explained to me you get a capped 3MBIT line and it is completely yours. This does mean you can't burst beyond the 3 MBIT, but $25 per MBIT including a half decent server, I'll give them a try :)
I think we're both confused :)
It can't be a capped 3mbit line because he said they will put more than 33 servers on a 100mb line, so that means you won't have a full 3mbit available 24/7/365... you'll only have 3mb if no one else is pulling peaking traffic when you are. That's how it was explained to me. But, I'm cross-eyed thinking about it so I'm gonna stop :)
You basically can get 3Mbps if it is available. If not, you're outta luck.
cascompany 06-27-2002, 11:00 AM If I understand it okey ....
for $75 a month you get the 3Mbit cogent ...
plus control panel ... $15 / month
but is unlimited ???
cause in the site says upgrading to unlimited $29/month ...
so... $75 + $15 + $29 = $119.-
for the server with ensim 3.1 full.
or ... $99 + $29 = $128.-
for the 420Gb server with ensim 3.1 full.
mmmm... I just need that CP or another ... so... this makes this server ~$20 / ~$30 more than the "$99" ones...
I mean.... RS is $99 for about the same as this $128 ....
and FDC is $99 for more than 3Mbit of cogent....
dunno...
anyone already get a server ?
PD: Maybe... a No setup would help :rolleyes: ...
or... maybe a free unlimited ensim... :stickout
thesmallguyshost 06-27-2002, 11:08 AM Originally posted by jkehe
You basically can get 3Mbps if it is available. If not, you're outta luck.
Yep... that's it.
That's not hard to advertise... why didn't I think of it before :)
JDMundo 06-27-2002, 11:51 AM The transoptics guy wrote "You have a full 3 mb/s connection available to you whenever you need it." .. Not "if its available".
phpjames 06-27-2002, 12:22 PM Nice offer chavvon
Revelation 06-27-2002, 01:10 PM Originally posted by rastoma
I think we're both confused :)
It can't be a capped 3mbit line because he said they will put more than 33 servers on a 100mb line, so that means you won't have a full 3mbit available 24/7/365... you'll only have 3mb if no one else is pulling peaking traffic when you are. That's how it was explained to me. But, I'm cross-eyed thinking about it so I'm gonna stop :)
I think the point is that you are guaranteed 3 MBPS, if you have the traffic to use it. Although there are no technical measures to ensure this, I assume that chavvon will be making sure that people have some burstability, and users can use as much as they need.
ckpeter 06-27-2002, 04:13 PM Actually, this is not true. What you are describing is 3mbs minium. But transoptic is providing 3mbs *cap*.
To use your wording, it is not guaranteed 3 mbps, in fact, the only thing that is guarantteed is that you *cannot* burst over 3mbs.
If transoptic is really evil (which I am sure he is not), he can put tons of server on the line, and no one can get any decent performance, but that will still be legal according to the terms of the offer.
Peter
Realist 06-29-2002, 05:09 PM Has anyone taken up this offer, made enquiries or have any info?
I have made a few quiries and placed an order but they say its not ready to go as yet?
Anyone with more details?
Regards,
Brian
GAMPort 06-30-2002, 08:52 AM This is what I got:
"We are working to try and beat the holiday, but we are running into supplier problems. Most of their staff is on vacation so the the setup will be about 5 business days out."
thesmallguyshost 06-30-2002, 09:22 AM Originally posted by chavvon
We have fixed quantities of servers so these will go fast.
I wonder how many they had setup and why no one has posted here they got it yet.
ckpeter 06-30-2002, 09:40 AM There are a few people who reported having signed up with them. You can search the forum for their comments. (mostly in the dedicated forum).
Peter
Realist 07-04-2002, 02:26 PM As a follow on from the very first post were its states "3 mb/s unmetered connection"
3mb/s = mbps (megabits per second)
This is only 0.003 gbps (gigabits per second)
what does he mean?
IS this right?
Thanks,
Brian
ckpeter 07-04-2002, 02:27 PM Yes, it is 3mb/s. (megabits per second)
Peter
Realist 07-04-2002, 03:40 PM So what does that work out a month and whats it in GB's compared to the likes of Rackshacks 400GB a month?
Brian
About 900GB +
Calculate 3mb/second = ???GB/month !
But that wont realistically be your maximum transfer!
Realist 07-17-2002, 10:56 AM I now have the server and Im getting 745kbs transfer speeds.
regards,
Brian
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