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GetSupport
06-25-2002, 12:33 AM
Hello,

Need Programming? We can do it for $3/hour, the programmers are in India, but they do not get paid until you are satisfied!

Contact me for more information!


Regards,
William

geiger
06-25-2002, 12:40 AM
Um... that's more than a little bit suspicious.
Why??

WebmastTroy
06-25-2002, 12:55 AM
:eek:

Are these children that do this? (Sorry....I've got last night's special on NBC in my head (about unlawful working of children in India in the silk "factories")).

Seems like you could charge a LOT more than $3/hour for that kind of work.

What kinds of things can be done and have been done in the past?

dre145
06-25-2002, 12:57 AM
LOL
yea kinda fishy
3 an hour?
for php scripting?:rolleyes:

iamdave
06-25-2002, 02:05 AM
Does that come with unlimited scripts?

Acroplex
06-25-2002, 02:14 AM
Feed the world....Today I got an email from Moldova, $8 /hour web design!

ROFL

#fdd700
06-25-2002, 02:24 AM
timechange,

As far as I know the statistics, in general PHP programming is 20% more expensive than web design :rolleyes:

Acroplex
06-25-2002, 03:33 AM
You missed the joke....plus PHP programming is not 20% over web design. Unless you are doing templates.

RobbertC
06-25-2002, 04:53 AM
Wow, $3 a month ??

On a 40-hour working week, you're making about $400 a month.

That's not a lot of money, and it's before your costs (insurance, software, internet connection etc.)

I was thinking I'm cheap with $30 a hour...

designNYC
06-25-2002, 08:31 AM
William,

Can you be specific about your company?
Web site? Where in India are you located?



What is the method of payment?

I might be interested.

Thanks

Joey
06-25-2002, 09:54 AM
I know there's differences in pricing and the American dollar has greater value, but $3 per hour!?

Anyone tried them out yet?

GetSupport
06-25-2002, 10:40 AM
Do a search for the exchange rate between india and the us, you will find a big difference, all of my programmers tell me what they would like to be paid, so I am not working them for nothing, they are making good in there country, and I just do not try to make 1000% profit off of them, I am keeping the cost low for you.

I tell you what...We will do 3-5 php/mysql scripts for free, send me the information about your script and I will choose the winners in a day or to! This is the best way I know to prove that we provide a quality service.

Regards,
William

GetSupport
06-25-2002, 10:47 AM
We will be launching our new site in a few days, at the same time we will start providing php programming, as well as server monitoring, and server administration. We will start providing the new services in about 3 days.


Regards,
William

GordonH
06-25-2002, 11:04 AM
I used to work for a relief agency in AFrica.
We employed someone in Tanzania for $600 per month.
He was the richest man in the district with his own servants and security guards.

We used to get complaints from westerners that we were ripping off our African workers but if we had paid them a standard western salary they would have been more powerful than the president!

Gordon

GetSupport
06-25-2002, 11:19 AM
Thank you

talash
06-25-2002, 02:02 PM
Hi,

I also operate from India and run a web design and development company. We do not make a lot of money even when we charge $10 per hour for web design work.

I cannot believe someone can do work for $3 per hour !

Have you accounted for rent, electricity, bandwidth, salary, infrastructure, pc, repairing, legal softwares, etc.

I run my company working almost 18 hiurs a day and not making that big a profit ! I think you are mis calculating somewhere.

I dont mean to sound wrong to you, but i personally find the offer unreliable.

I wish you best of luck in the venture.

Regards,
Abhishek

Acroplex
06-25-2002, 05:32 PM
Can you spell "IT Sweatshop" ? :)

maxbear
06-25-2002, 06:47 PM
hi GetSupport,

I just PM you. Your account don't allow people to email. Please check your PM. Thanks.

#fdd700
06-25-2002, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by timechange
You missed the joke....plus PHP programming is not 20% over web design. Unless you are doing templates.

PHP programming IS 20% over web design. Unless you are doing scripts ;)

iamdave
06-25-2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by timechange
Can you spell "IT Sweatshop" ? :) LOL

Acroplex
06-25-2002, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by #fdd700


PHP programming IS 20% over web design. Unless you are doing scripts ;)


Dude, if you were talking about ColdFusion, ASP or database design I'd say it's 30% over. But PHP is a joke as far as corporate development is concerned.

iamdave
06-25-2002, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by timechange
Dude, if you were talking about ColdFusion, ASP or database design I'd say it's 30% over. But PHP is a joke as far as corporate development is concerned. I don't think ASP differs to much from PHP.

onokazu
06-25-2002, 07:30 PM
How about web design? Do you offer web design services for a similar cost?

JamRover
06-26-2002, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by iamdave
I don't think ASP differs to much from PHP.

lol - do your research

itsdestiney*
06-26-2002, 03:23 PM
god guys do you have to jump all over people if they work that cheap then let them is it effecting you in anyway at all huh well no so leave them alone they could be doing it cheap to boost up a clients list and i wanna know does it allways take a goodie two shoes like me (aand all the others) to shut up the flaming on this forum leave people alone if u arnt intested the just leave them alone................................

iamdave
06-26-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by JamRover


lol - do your research Whatever, PHP has the same capabilities as ASP, I by the way do program in PHP, and the company I work for programs in ASP, and we have a very intense Shopping cart, that we install on client's site, and we also use many other advanced scripts, these scripts are no different as far as usability and features go then PHP coded shopping carts and what not.

#fdd700
06-26-2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by JamRover


lol - do your research

Have you done yours yet? :stickout:

iamdave
06-26-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by #fdd700


Have you done yours yet? :stickout: Good question...

progex
06-26-2002, 10:38 PM
Check your PM, GetSupported.

maxbear
06-26-2002, 11:52 PM
I PM GetSupported a few days ago but not reply. Hi GetSupported, are you here?

ClusterMania
06-27-2002, 01:26 AM
I am sure there are IT people in china or india that would be happy to work for $3 American per hour. You have to understand that some people in other countries don't make more than 7 cents a day. $400 American a month in some countries is a great salary. It's just really hard to compete with them but just because it's cheap doesn't always mean the quality of work is very bad.

I think Cisco and allot of IT companys have R&D in countries like India cause it's allot cheaper. China is next but real quality won't be seen for at least another 5 years.

progex
06-27-2002, 11:03 AM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Where do these people in the 'impoverished' countries learn IT material?

I think most of them are illiterate, so how do they come by IT training?

JaniceH
06-27-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by progex
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Where do these people in the 'impoverished' countries learn IT material?

I think most of them are illiterate, so how do they come by IT training?

In India, I don't believe that they have universal education for 100% of the population, but the percentage that goes to school seems to get an excellent education. I've gotten to know a number of Indian programmers and IT people here in the US and they've told me that India kept a lot of the British-style educational system particularly in things like math, and from what I've observed they are more motivated and ambitious in regards to their studies and their grades.
During their 2 week vacation from work, while a lot of us are
laying out on the beach, the Indian people will do things like taking a cram course to brush up on a programming language etc.

But I cant speak to whether or not $3 per hour is reasonable or not.

imago-allan
06-27-2002, 06:38 PM
Greetings!

As far as the Philippines is concerned, we know how to speak and write in English. We can comprehend things. We go to school.
We are capable of learning just like you guys. :)

We are just a bit unfortunate because we live in a land not so rich as yours.

I saw here $400/month salary. Yes, that is true, $400/month is already a BIG salary here!

In my opinion, it is sometimes not justifiable to associate price with quality.

Take care everyone and good luck to GetSupport!

:)

EDIT: And, progex I understand how you feel, but I guess your statement may not be necessarily right at all times. (no harm done here)


Originally posted by progex
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Where do these people in the 'impoverished' countries learn IT material?

I think most of them are illiterate, so how do they come by IT training?

designNYC
06-28-2002, 02:37 PM
Amen to consul

Just because people are little poor does not mean their quality of work will be sub standard.


There are places in US where people are illetrate like the ghettos of Harlem/Jersey City/Newark.
How many of you have even been near one?

To the wise guy who said how can poor illetrate countries people learn IT :::: pay a visit to HARLEM. I am sure the brothers there will tell you how.

I have and I lived there. (Glad I am out)

But then US also has places like Beverly Hills and many more where people spend $5k on their dog's hair cut.


Anyways, point being :

Humans are same all over the world. We work. We earn. We consume. We learn. That is all to it.

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Now to how $3/hour is not impossible:

1) $3/hr is Indian Rupees Rs 150 ( 1 US $ = Rs 50)
7 hours per day > $21 or Rs 1050/day
This is Rs 5250/week or Rs 20,000 per month.
Say compnay pays the developer Rs 12-15k, still it has Rs 5-8k profit.
So quite possible.

Acroplex
06-28-2002, 03:39 PM
There are excellent programmers and Oracle DBA's from India and China, but from my own corporate experience they deliver the goods slow. The ones I worked with had trouble establishing a working communication and their code was very cryptic. They were very secretive and would not mingle with the rest of the IT department.

When the US economy was booming during the Dot Com era these guys were being given H1 visas and 6-figure salaries. Right now, with thousands of US workers unemployed and the economy being stagnant, one has to deal with the penny pinchers of IT :D

By the way, Network Solutions outsources half their tech support to Manila, Philippines. They are outright clueless, rude and speak incomprehensible english. The few of you that still use NetSol would only be so lucky to get anything done when you ask to be connected to a US-based supervisor.

Bottom line: what you get is what you pay for.

jks
06-28-2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by iamdave
Whatever, PHP has the same capabilities as ASP

Well, both are Turing compatible :-)

Maniac
06-30-2002, 05:19 AM
Is this the ****************** guy?

For $3/hour you guys must work really slow to rack up those hourly fees :D...kidding