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View Full Version : Quick Fraud Inquiry.
XTNet 06-23-2002, 07:17 PM I just got an order that seems fishy to me.
Order from Belgium, the client states that his AMEX card does not have a CVV2 code on the back.
While the order supposedly came from belgium, i am receiving emails from his compuserve account, IP resolves to somewhere in Ohio.
Anyone have any suggestions?
petertdavis 06-23-2002, 07:30 PM I have a company AMEX card that has a 4 digit CVV2 code on the front.
XTNet 06-23-2002, 07:33 PM Yeah thats what he said his had, i guess it is legit.
TheGAME1264 06-23-2002, 07:34 PM IP resolves aren't always accurate as it pertains to location. For example, a LOT of AOL IP addresses will resolve to Virginia (where the head office is). So from that standpoint, it's probably just an error on the part of whatever program/site/service you used to resolve the IP.
As far as the CVV2 code goes, I really couldn't tell you for sure on that. A lot of security measures are North American-only (and in some cases, such as AVS, US-only). I know that there are CVV2 numbers on the backs of credit cards here in Canada, but over there...no idea.
eddy2099 06-23-2002, 07:36 PM The CVV2 on my AMEX cards are in the front of the card, it is the 4 digits on the right top line of the last set of card numbers.
Hope that helps.
Perhaps, you could have them fax the front of the Amex card containing his name, card number, expiration date and the CVV2 and to contain a short note that he makes the purchase with his
signature.
Actually being in another country with a card from yet another country may not be an issue of fraud. High chance it is but may not be in all cases.
It could be a person who happens to be working in say Country A but carried his credit card from his homeland in Country B. I travel in some instances to another country for work or pleasure and at times need to purchase when overseas.
If he has the actual credit card with him and it checks out alright with the bank, probably it will go through.
Originally posted by petertdavis
I have a company AMEX card that has a 4 digit CVV2 code on the front. Same with my (European) AMEX card
allan 06-23-2002, 10:00 PM Originally posted by TheGAME1264
IP resolves aren't always accurate as it pertains to location. For example, a LOT of AOL IP addresses will resolve to Virginia (where the head office is). So from that standpoint, it's probably just an error on the part of whatever program/site/service you used to resolve the IP.
I think all AOL users go through one of 12 proxies to access the Internet -- so they should all come through addresses in NOVA. Unless they have changed their network design.
Rochen 06-23-2002, 10:01 PM My friend here in the UK uses AOL and his IP shows as being in the US.
Techark 06-23-2002, 10:12 PM call to Amex will give you a go or no go.
XTNet 06-23-2002, 11:22 PM Thanks for all of your responses. I think were going to be okay here. Even though the card # I was given is invalid, :D
Probably mistyped it or something ;)
TheGAME1264 06-23-2002, 11:43 PM Good luck to you. And if it turns out not to be okay, I know guys that are in the credit collection business. Their methods of payment collection are flexible too. They can break thumbs, fingers, toes, kneecaps...;)
XTNet 06-24-2002, 12:12 AM Im owed money by a hosting company that i'd rather not say due to a pending lawsuit, maybe i'll enlist your services ;)
TheGAME1264 06-25-2002, 01:17 AM Ask for Big Vito or Don Pepperoni. :)
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