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Gonzo
02-08-2001, 02:27 PM
http://www.rnwebdesign.com

does any one know anything about this host?
are they good?

Thanks for you info

Jeremy

ExaHost
02-08-2001, 02:57 PM
Never heard of them and I don't like to critique a business based on site appearance, but I don't like their web site at all. $2.95/mo sounds too good to be true as well, but may not be... have you researched them at all? Make sure you check them out - there is nothing worse than getting duped(?) by your host.

Good luck and let us know what you find out about them.

Jenn.

klisis
02-08-2001, 03:06 PM
I.. don't like this host. Their web site doesn't look professional. If anyone is serious about what they are doing on net, the one should make their homepage looks nice and friendly.

However, their plans look ok.

Gonzo
02-08-2001, 03:46 PM
Here is some comments I found about this host.
is it just me or do you think that theres could be fake?

http://www.hostsearch.com/showcomment.asp?companycode=2462

i am a
02-08-2001, 05:53 PM
personally, i would go with someone a little more professional... as a freelance designer, i'm apalled at what they offer as "design"... just because you know how to work frontpage doesn't make you a web designer...

which does beg the question... what does?

oh well.

wert
02-08-2001, 07:20 PM
Hostsearch initially had rave reviews *faked I'm sure* about GXhosting. And they turned out to be two teenaged scumbags who ripped off anyone associated with them. So do a search here on this forum and take hostsearch lightly. And yes, their site looks very very unprofessional. It looks like they are using microsoft word to design their pages... yech!

Haakon
02-08-2001, 07:27 PM
The best you can do is to ask them some questions (maybe something that has to do with technology also), and see how fast they reply.

The comments are most deffinantly fake though.
In my oppinion:
I think the whole buisness looks very unserious, with the self made rewievs and the horrible the design and they`re asking others to pay them for designing :rolleyes:

wert
02-08-2001, 07:43 PM
I just checked out the reviews and they are *obviously* fake... It's sad really that some people will fall for it. Don't be one of them!

jimb
03-14-2001, 10:47 PM
Hey,
This is jim, a tech support from RN Web Design & Hosting. In December when this article was posted, we were just starting out on our web hosting. We put up a "crappy" site because we had very little venture, anything we did have though, we put into our servers. We have made very big changes to our site and our reputation. The hostsearch articles were in now way fake, and we would just like to clear that up. We have clients behind each of those postings, and if you would like, can email you on these posts. Also, since we started out, we have made great strives to provide customers with the best support and services we need. At this time, we have 5 dedicated servers, and a client base of over 500. We hope to keep expanding and also hope to bring new ideas to the web hosting industry. If you have any questions please email us at info@rnwebdesign.com.

Jim
RN Web Design & Hosting
http://www.rnwebdesign.com

hostrocket
03-14-2001, 10:50 PM
Hi,

Good reviews are not always fake, Im not trying to plug us in any way but we have like a 9.8 average rating by 100+ reviews and theyre all legit... You shouldnt count the host out just because of the reviews. Email some of the people who reviewed them, see if they respond.

-Brendan

Apachequest
03-22-2001, 12:43 PM
<< dun people ever learn?? do not advertise on the board!! >>

[Edited by kunal on 03-22-2001 at 01:42 PM]

MSW
03-22-2001, 12:50 PM
I find this very strange that we have not had anyone praise out AIT for the past few months, now all of a sudden 3 new people come on this board singing about them.

Is it me?

Angel78
03-22-2001, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Apachequest
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I suppose that this is his signature :) there is no other way to explain that..he answers the question and than starts talking about him beeing a reseller at ait...stupid

<< admin edit: removed advert quote >>

[Edited by kunal on 03-22-2001 at 01:46 PM]

Synergy
03-22-2001, 03:19 PM
How do hosts get like a rating of 10 for all their reviews? I believe thats impossible.

MSW
03-22-2001, 05:47 PM
Now you know why nobody likes those host index/search/whatever sites. Unfortunately, the users that are looking for hosts there don't know that.

Meister
03-22-2001, 08:36 PM
How can you judge or determine whether a host's website is 'professionally' made, or at least to make it 'look nice'?

daren
03-23-2001, 01:39 AM
I've found this company call Webtrader.

Waht can i say, so far it's been the best. Cheap, Friendly, Excellent support team, HEY they even have a professional AND friendly looking website for all of you who care.
So far i haven't had any problem i think you all who complain about your hosting should check this company out:

http://www.webtrader.com.au

BC
03-23-2001, 03:09 AM
Daren,

Did you hear anything about a little 'security' incident with Webtrader and one of their customers? I read it in The Age somewhere... I'll try and dig it up if I can find it.

(not trying to put you off your host (considering the incident happened 6 months ago), and it wasn't anything *really* major, but wondering if other Webtrader customers know).

[Edited by BC on 03-23-2001 at 02:15 AM]

BC
03-23-2001, 03:14 AM
I just found the article.... Unfortunately Fairfax makes you pay for the damn thing, but I've got a membership with them so I'll display the article in full here.

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Website defaced in attack by savvy cyber-vandals
Author: ADAM TURNER
Date Published: 12 Sep 2000
From section: Computers (829 words)
Publication: The Age

A PHONE call from a client last month surprised motivational speaker Heidi di Santo. She was a victim of cyber-vandalism and didn't know where to turn for advice.
Hackers had defaced her website (www.heidi.com.au) by pasting her face on to images of naked bodies. Considerable time had been spent altering text and graphics across most of the site to include references to sex and drugs.

For the unsuspecting di Santo, who set up the site 12 months ago to promote her business, it was as if vandals had broken into her home and defaced the family photographs on her wall.

``At first I was shocked, I started crying and I thought `how do I get this off the air?', because I'm very naive when it comes to IT stuff," says di Santo.

``I never thought that something like this could happen to me."

She was unable to contact Web developer David Higgins, who had created the site, and didn't know which Internet service provider hosted her site - let alone how to remove the offending material. Her husband's business partner spent more than an hour on the telephone calling ISPs before he made contact with the site's host, Webtrader, and the site was taken off line.

The next few days were frantic as di Santo sought to restore her website and she later reported the break-in to the Victoria Police's computer crime squad.

``They said I had to go and report it to the local police, which I did. I also got all the computer logs from Webtrader and have sent them to the computer crime squad who are now investigating it," says di Santo.

``As to date they just haven't had a chance to even investigate it because they've got so many of these."

Late last week the computer crime squad had yet to begin their investigation.

Di Santo's Web developer, Higgins, had previously been a victim of the same hackers and says he has no idea how they gained access to the site.

``These guys really did know what they were doing," says Higgins.

``At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you do, there is always going to be that risk. There are people out there who can hack into multi-million dollar banks; there is no way you can keep them out of your website if they decide you're a target."

The managing director of Webtrader, Anthony Banek, says di Santo's website was taken off line as soon as they were notified of the vandalism and he was happy to cooperate with police to help track down the culprit.

Di Santo's difficulties in locating her ISP were not uncommon, says Banek, as many website owners who were not Internet savvy were happy to remain in the dark concerning the technical aspects of their site.

``A lot of people want that as a service, they don't really want to be bothered with it," he says.

``The downside is they're not in control."

Webtrader's security measures lock out users after three unsuccessful login attempts, says Banek, yet server logs show no unsuccessful attempts to access di Santo's site.

``To us it appears that the person who in this in this case got in actually had the user name and password," he says.

``I reckon, in 90 per cent of these cases, they actually know the person or have had dealings with them in the past."

In an email to di Santo, Banek said evidence pointed to the hackers connecting to the site through a Melbourne ISP.

Regular reports of cyber-vandalism incidents are made to the Australian Computer Emergency Response Team in Queensland, says AusCERT senior security analyst Eric Halil.

``Anyone can be a victim," says Halil. ``It happens to the well known, larger organisations and it makes the news, but it happens to lots of smaller organisations as well. You don't have to be famous."

Cyber-vandalism is a criminal offence which can result in imprisonment, he says.

``The police do have the power to go and prosecute people and there have been prosecutions in the past. Unfortunately they've been under-resourced, so obviously they can't get to every report, but I believe that's changing slowly."

``The difficulty is someone could be attacking you just as easily from the other side of the world as from across the corridor."

For di Santo, who now checks her site for evidence of vandalism every day, the experience has encouraged her to take a more hands-on approach to the site.

Now she advises website owners ``to be a little more cautious. I wasn't and this is what can happen".
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David.h
03-25-2001, 08:08 PM
Howdy all.

I have used Webtrader and not had a problem with Security.

Reading that article shows that it wasnt a hacker or cracker, but obviously someone who has had some bad dealings with Heidi and decided to get back at her. Who knows what the Reseller who sold the site to her had done. She may not have paid her bill, who knows.

I read an article of another company, that there site was defaced, but this was because the developer was never paid for the job and the Kid, under 15 who developed it decided to deface it because he never was paid. Because he could as he had the passwords.

If a site is defaced, it is usually either -

1/ Someone who knows the site owner and has passwords and
has bad dealings with them, I have even heard of Ex-employees doing it.
2/ A hacker/cracker, but a hacker/cracker need to either get the password from somewhere or use tools to eventually crack the user name and password, and this shows on ftp log files, if there was any bad password attempts.

As suggested by even Microsoft and other major security companies, you must change your passwords very regularly even daily. I dont think this is the responsibility of the hosting company though. Both the site owner and hosting company have equal responsibility.

My password with Webtrader is also made up of a series of letters and numbers upper and lower case etc and over 8 characters long. Which in my books is one of the best forms of password. So if the person didnt know the password they certainly are one of the best to get the password and user name with out any bad login attempts.

Anyhow, Webtrader have been great for me, cant complain, and the way the US dollar is at the moment, I am nearly paying less than half the prices stated. Well worth looking into.

Cheers
David

Webdude
03-26-2001, 12:52 AM
You have to rememebr that it doesnt say if there was Frontpage, some online control panel, or whatever on that account. There are always extra security risks in these. Many times you can get in without ever being promoted for a UN or PW. Back when I was got frontpage, which I rarely use, it placed the frontpage edit button on my IE browser. It was sitting where I was used to having the refresh button. However, it got me to thinking, and checking for frontpage security holes when I was able to edit other peoples sites every once in a while. I wouldnt do anything major, maybe put a period somewhere and hit "save" and see if it let me. ABout one out of ten sites I was able to make changes to, and it made me very leery of frontpage and control panels. I havent tried it in quite a while now, but I'm sure the probs still exist. By the way, all the servers I was able to make changes to webpages on, were all NT servers....of course, under a situation like that, of course your not going to show a failed login because of the piss poor security and the clueless sysadmins that run them...

wes
03-26-2001, 02:09 AM
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[Edited by BC on 03-26-2001 at 03:35 AM]