I'm not sure if this is a bug or i'm just doing it wrong but when I design a webpage in layout mode in Dreamweaver its all dispositioned when it's compiled. It's all aligned nice and neat when i'm working on it but when I go to view the page in explorer its all ****ed up! I paid alot of money for this and it seems ridiculus that something that alot of freeware programs can do right dreamweaver cant!

Welcome to web design. If you really want to depress yourself, look at the same page in various incarnations of Netscape.

I highly recommend Notepad.exe.

Originally posted by mwatkins

I highly recommend Notepad.exe.

Agreed. I use this for everything and occasionally I'll use dreamweaver or something if I'm doing a page full of tables. But guess what they still don't come out right. Also check out ultraedit. It's like notepad but you can have hundreds of files open at once all under the same window. Way better than hunting through 50 windows.

Originally posted by mlip129
[Bbut when I go to view the page in explorer its all ****ed up! [/B]

What I've noticed is that IE6, 'reformats' your code into their standard. Example, view beautiful page in DW then view it in Opera (exact match), Netscape (90% match), IE6 (fonts are big as hell and not suppose to be, tables become unalign, etc...)

I know DW has a history of distortion from their window to the internet, but I think IE6 f---'s it up more. I personally like IE5 slightly better...... However, Opera is my fav browser the only thing is well over the majority of ppl DON'T use it and it has its fair share of java problems, too

Persoanlly I am only using DW a little. But I use GoLive 6.0 more than anything. And when I preview it in there, I have it look the same in IE6. I have also gotten it to look the same in Opera 6.03, Mozilla 1.0, and Netscape 4.7 & 6.2.3. So if your having trouble woth DW, maybe try out GoLive 6.0.

I was only half kidding about Notepad! I hand code everything. I used to fire up a graphical editor one in a while to set up a complex table layout, but since I've moved away from tables for layout to CSS, there's no need for that.

Personal editor of choice is PrimalScript by Sapien. But there are lots of free and quite capable programming editors out there these days.

Originally posted by fsn


What I've noticed is that IE6, 'reformats' your code into their standard..... IE6 (fonts are big as hell and not suppose to be, tables become unalign, etc...)



LOL, something I thought I'd never say : I owe Microsoft an apology. The fonts were out of normal because of their setting, it was on default "largest" instead of "normal"

Now, I can say, DW does everything fine in IE6 now. I'm not the most skilled web designer, so maybe that is why everything looks fine for me, :D

I highly recommend Notepad.exe.

Amen - except I'm a pico man myself... :)

Dave

try frontpage for a change guys

Dreamweaver is a superior product....by far the best out there for web development....and I have just gotten hold of a trial of this new version, and I am very very impressed (trying to get my boss to purchase it), it supports XHTML 1.0, has greater focus on accessibility etc....

However, when using layout view, things will never come out perfect....a little editing here and there is always required.

Note also with IE6, the page will be rendered differently according to the doctype......IE6 is pretty good with standards, but with no XHTML doctype etc, it will revert back to quirks mode, thus displaying things a little different.....

I have been using DreamWeaver and havn't had any problems with my documents not showing up correctly.

Do not use Frontpage!!!
Use DW. It is the best WYSIWYG HTML editor.
Usually I will get pages looking distorted in NS.

Anyway what is XHTML for?
is it the lightweight version of HTML?

Usually I get my designs distorted more in NS rather than IE but I just ignore it, cause my broswer stats show only 1 % of my visitors use netscape...

Dreamweaver takes some time getting used to, Seriously if you're good with coding hand coding is the best, but when you're not, Dreamweaver is the best out there. Industry professionals use it. Try to use "standard view" instead of "layout view". Html is not like word processing where u can place elements where you want it. It can be achieved with layers or complex tables, but will usually end up distorted in different browsers.

Anyway what is XHTML for?

It is the replacement for HTML...

Strongly recommended:

Homesite: Version 2.5 :)

and textpad

Anyway what is XHTML for?

Something that doesn't work good in IE unless you are looking at a page made in Office Word. ;)

Seriously though. Like the guy said above, addition to or replacement of HTML. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#xhtml

Regards,
Michael

Originally posted by NixHosting

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Also check out ultraedit. It's like notepad but you can have hundreds of files open at once all under the same window. Way better than hunting through 50 windows.

Yeah, I use HomeSite, at least they have line numbering too ;)

Originally posted by Roy@ENHOST

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Anyway what is XHTML for?
is it the lightweight version of HTML?

It is an HTML implementation in XML. In other words, HTML with more strict syntax rules.

Originally posted by Lonny
Strongly recommended:

Homesite: Version 2.5 :)

and textpad

HomeSite 4 was really buggy, but I use 5 now, which is very nice.

I really enjoy Dreamweaver's code editor, it give you a list to select from as you type, and closes the tags for you. The FTP synchronization system is pretty cool too, although sometimes the timing is off and it doesn't work.

I like to call myself a HTML coder, but I do occasionally use the layout view to arrange tables the way I like. The new coding is just too stupid. Using "Strong" instead of "B" for doing bold, and others.. It doesn't make sence, along with always wanting to add new Paragraphs.