There was just a benchmarking on the new versions of Slackware Linux vs. the newest kernel of BSD running the Apache that just came out. FreeBSD wooped Linux's but, it was able to do like 25% more requests. I knew BSD was much faster but WOW. I guess all of our new systems are going to have to have BSD :).

Here is the article:
http://www.byte.com/column/BYT20010130S0010


James R. Clark II
Nethosters Inc.
http://www.nethosters.com

[Edited by jic on 02-06-2001 at 08:33 PM]

Do you have any idea what you might have started here? :-)

HAHA.. But of course.... It's one of those questions

"Is the cup half empty or is the cup half full?"
"What came first the chicken or the egg?"

This will be fun :)


James R. Clark II
Nethosters Inc.
http://www.nethosters.com

At least these were benchmarks that apparently lacked some of the "vested interests" that may have influenced the famous Mindcraft benchmarks a couple years back that showed NT beating Linux in benchmarks. Microsoft kindly funded the study. :)

Server benchmarks are much harder than, say, CPU benchmarks. There are such a multitude of possible settings depending on the server environment and requirements.

With that said, BSD is a fine OS, and deserves more consideration. It goes head to head with the proprietary Unixes in its feature set much better than Linux does. Which isn't to say it's better, just different. :)

Eeep! Gonna get major flack from all the linux zelots :)

But It's nice to see FreeBSD is still the bad ass it's always been. Besides the FreeBSD devil dude is so much cooler!

Can somebody please explain to me what FreeBSD is?

FreeBSD is another flavor of Unix... The article linked in the first message of this thread explains more (especially in the "What's A FreeBSD?" section. :) ).

What I feel is really unfortunate was that Linux didn't more strongly pursue it's original intent...an alternative for the desktop. That is why Torwalds originally made it, a personal project to put an OS on his computer. What Linux really needs is the ease of use of Windows. From there, its stability would have made it a natural for a server OS, as well as embedded applications, but huge enterprise applications are really better suited to BSD. Even Solaris has elements of BSD in it--which is legal, the BSD licenses are different from GPL.

Anyway, it's a rhetorical argument. If Linux was as easy to use as Windows 2000, but with Unix-like stability, power, and security features, it would have taken over everthing by now in any case. :)

Maybe the Unix gurus could shed some light on the benchmarks and BSD strengths vs. Linux strengths.

Originally posted by Shawn (Wrestlecar.com)
Can somebody please explain to me what FreeBSD is?
Grabed this off the freebsd site...

Briefly, FreeBSD is a UN*X-like operating system for the i386 and Alpha/AXP platforms based on U.C. Berkeley's 4.4BSD-Lite release, with some 4.4BSD-Lite2 enhancements. It is also based indirectly on William Jolitz's port of U.C. Berkeley's Net/2 to the i386, known as 386BSD, though very little of the 386BSD code remains. A fuller description of what FreeBSD is and how it can work for you may be found on the FreeBSD home page (www.freebsd.org).

This is so pointless its not even funny. I can give you stat all day long about how linux is better then freebsd or freebsd is better then linux. It isn't going to change what people are using. If you like linux, use it. If you like FreeBSD use it. **PLEASE** Don't start this religous war, its really not worth it.

It is clouded by all the distros and Xwindows crap.

The basic OS is still there, you can even download it.

You just need to know how to install it by itself.

Originally posted by mysitehost
It is clouded by all the distros and flamethrow Xwindows crap.

The basic OS is still there, you can even download it.

You just need to know how to install it by itself.



For the record (not trying to be too picky here):
The X Consortium requests that the following names be used
when referring to this software:

X
X Window System
X Version 11
X Window System, Version 11
X11

What? They don't even have XWindows crap on that list? :D

I agree with jfiliss in terms of Linux as a desktop. The biggest things that Linux lacks are cohesion and ease of use.

You can't have much of an ease of use without a desktop interface. What needs to happen is Xwindows Crap needs to re-evaluate their goals, if not disolve completely and start anew. Where things are at now, it is going no where.

2 million people controbute to the OS each day. You would think we would have something better by now.

Thanks Guys :) I appreciate the time you took to explain what FreeBSD is :)

I appreciate your assistance :)

-Shawn

XWindows is great, it is very memory efficient.

James R. Clark II
Nethosters Inc.
http://www.nethosters.com

I'm about to set up a server and am thinking of using FreeBSD instead of Linux. Can someone tell me if any software that can be installed on Linux can also be installed on FreeBSD? Or does it have top be a special port written specifically for FreeBSD?. I'll probably be installing VBulletin and phpNuke...and would like to make sure that they can run on FreeBSD. Thanks.

I honestly don't think anyone here is interested in a "what is superior" thread. I know I'm not. We're all in the webdevelopment or webhosting business, and would simply like to know where each OS excels and what special considerations it deserves. They are both outstanding operating systems they prove themselves every day. :)

I think a general statement about BSD being better suited to enterprise applications, while Linux occupies more of a space for small servers is basically correct, but someone who knows way more than I do could probably do a better job of filling in the gaps.

Greggish, the software has to be written for FreeBSD, but much of the software ported to Linux is also available to BSD. On individual applications, you should always be able to get information on OS compatibility on the app's homepage. Along with any special considerations, etc.. Hope that helps. :)

[Edited by jfiliss on 02-08-2001 at 08:50 AM]