prime
06-14-2002, 08:56 PM
Anyone know how long they've been down?
Any other info?
Thanks
Any other info?
Thanks
![]() | View Full Version : fdc servers down... prime 06-14-2002, 08:56 PM Anyone know how long they've been down? Any other info? Thanks prime 06-14-2002, 08:59 PM ... or maybe it's just my server. That, or their main page came back online recently. eddy2099 06-14-2002, 09:49 PM Well, you are not alone. :mad: I had a 1gb remote storage space signed up with them and it has either been very slow or inaccessible for the past couple of weeks since I signed up with them. Petr managed something about wanting to add a new pipe a few days back which should improve performance but I still cannot get to my space. I did consider signing up for dedicated hosting if it improves the situation but since the problem is not just isolated to me. I would just drop that idea. StarGate 06-14-2002, 11:03 PM ... was Cogent and not them. I monitored it with VisualRoute all the time, there were packet losses all over Cogent hops on that route... not FDC's fault eddy2099 06-15-2002, 02:49 AM Seems like FDCServer is up but my space there is still down. Will see if Petr replies. jmaclean 06-15-2002, 09:03 PM I didn't figure with the location Petr described not having a multihomed connection would be as much a problem as it has been. I'm trying to run a high-availability server, so its a darn good thing that this isn't happening when its fully configured. Of course I'm losing a good day of work here, as the box has been down consistantly lately. :( Just wondering what everyones experiences with them have been like up until this. Its hard for me to provide any kind of an uptime guareentee, when its completely out of my control. prime 06-15-2002, 09:12 PM Well, the first week or two everything went well. My server was down yesterday (power supply problems, apparently) for 3 hours. Tonight it's been down for 2 hours, more or less, so far. It is hard to do anything in these conditions... And now (but that's not fdc-related), with the strike going on @ our cable service provider here, my link to the internet could go down anytime... :( But at least, that would just be me and not the people who rely on me for hosting (only friends & family so far, thank god!) kreativ 06-15-2002, 09:24 PM I haven't been able to access any sites hosted on FDCservers.net (nor FDCservers.net itself) for the past hour or two. EDIT: I can get to FDCServers.net now, although it's really slow. I still can't get to other sites hosted on other FDCServers' servers. Tazzman 06-15-2002, 09:25 PM Maybe we can petition for a backup provider for when Cogent goes down. It's been great for months on end and now suddenly Cogent is up and down like a jojo... I'm gonna send Petr an email and try to find out as much as I can, but one thing is clear, things can't go on like this. I can't really consider moving shop, I spent far too much upgrading the server hardware to do that and Petr/fdcservers have been to nice to me just to0 do that anyway. P.S. my server is back online @ 2.20 AM GMT kreativ 06-15-2002, 09:28 PM okay, site's seem to be loading again, but REALLY slow. StarGate 06-15-2002, 09:28 PM =============================================================== === VisualRoute (tm) 6.0a report on 16 Éïõí 2002 4:37:28 ðì === =============================================================== Report for 66.250.73.63 Analysis: '66.250.73.63' was found in 14 hops (TTL=243). But, problems starting at hop 13 in network "Cogent Communications" are causing IP packets to be dropped. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | 0 | | 161.58.180.113 | win10115.iad.dn.net | Dulles, VA, USA | -05:00 | | | Verio, Inc. | | 1 | | 161.58.176.129 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 2 | | 161.58.156.140 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 3 | | 129.250.27.215 | ge-1-3-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net | Sterling, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 4 | | 129.250.5.47 | p16-7-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 5 | | 129.250.5.249 | p4-3-0.r00.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 6 | | 205.215.2.37 | - | ?Atlanta, GA 30303-1537 | | 0 | x | NetRail, Inc. | | 7 | | 66.28.28.173 | g14-1.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 8 | | 66.28.4.22 | p15-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 62 | x- | Cogent Communications | | 9 | | 66.28.4.82 | p6-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 10 | | 66.28.4.14 | p15-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 11 | | 66.28.4.86 | p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com | Chicago, IL, USA | -06:00 | 31 | x | Cogent Communications | | 12 | | 66.28.66.78 | g50.ba02.b000268-0.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com | Chicago, IL, USA | -06:00 | 31 | x | Cogent Communications | | 13 | 70 | 66.28.21.82 | Datacenter.demarc.cogentco.com | - | | 413 | --x---- | Cogent Communications | | 14 | 40 | 66.250.73.63 | - | ?Washington, DC 20007 | | 31 | x | Cogent Communications | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *********************** Sometimes even THAT wierd: =============================================================== === VisualRoute (tm) 6.0a report on 16 Éïõí 2002 4:39:01 ðì === =============================================================== Real-time report for 66.250.73.63 (30% done) Analysis: '66.250.73.63' was found in 29 hops (TTL=243). But, the node is losing packets. There appears to be a firewall at hop 12 or 13 that is blocking incoming ICMP TTL expired in transit messages for hops 13-28. Please contact your network administrator for help. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 0 | | 161.58.180.113 | win10115.iad.dn.net | Dulles, VA, USA | -05:00 | | | Verio, Inc. | | 1 | | 161.58.176.129 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 2 | | 161.58.156.140 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 3 | | 129.250.27.215 | ge-1-3-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net | Sterling, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 4 | | 129.250.5.47 | p16-7-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 5 | | 129.250.5.249 | p4-3-0.r00.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. | | 6 | | 205.215.2.37 | - | ?Atlanta, GA 30303-1537 | | 0 | x | NetRail, Inc. | | 7 | | 66.28.28.173 | g14-1.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 8 | | 66.28.4.22 | p15-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 9 | | 66.28.4.82 | p6-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 6 | x------- | Cogent Communications | | 10 | | 66.28.4.14 | p15-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Cogent Communications | | 11 | | 66.28.4.86 | p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com | Chicago, IL, USA | -06:00 | 35 | -x----- | Cogent Communications | | 12 | | 66.28.66.78 | g50.ba02.b000268-0.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com | Chicago, IL, USA | -06:00 | 31 | x | Cogent Communications | | 13 | 75 | ?66.28.21.82 | Datacenter.demarc.cogentco.com | | | | | Cogent Communications | | 14 | 75 | ?66.250.73.63 | - | | | | | Cogent Communications | | 15 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 16 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 17 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 18 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 19 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 20 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 21 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 22 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 23 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 24 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 25 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 26 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 27 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 28 | 75 | | | | | | | | | 29 | 25 | 66.250.73.63 | - | ?Washington, DC 20007 | | 31 | x | Cogent Communications | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tazzman 06-15-2002, 09:31 PM and down again @ 2.22 AM GMT. I did say 'like a jojo' I hope Petr is ready to type a lot of emails about this :bawling: Down again @ 2.25 AM GMT after coming back online @ 2.24 AM GMT... Back up @ 2.31... Hope this time it stays up. ckpeter 06-15-2002, 09:45 PM While petitioning for another backup provider is good, I don't think it is cost-effective for fdcservers to do that. If you look at your current pricing for server, that is really low, plus the fact that you are not just getting fixed amount of transfer, but unmetered ports. Even if Petr can manage to get a backup, it will be slow. Peter Tazzman 06-15-2002, 09:50 PM Well, that's not exactly what I had in mind. I have suggested in an email to Petr to maybe offer a backup line for when Cogent goes down to people who request it and then charge those people an extra fee for the comfort. I know he can't offer backup at the current pricing, but maybe for a limited amount of people and at extra charge it will be something to think about. He did once say they already have 6 additional fibre carriers in the building, so I should imagine getting a backup hooked up wouldn't be too much of an effort... kreativ 06-15-2002, 10:02 PM The sites are loading quite nicely now. Q: Aren`t you concerned about your network uptime having only one provider ? A: No, there never have been any outages except scheduled maitnance. Cogent is peered from 3 different backbones here in Chicago if one connection fails another kicks in so they really can not go down. Seems this might've been proven wrong today. I know he can't offer backup at the current pricing, but maybe for a limited amount of people and at extra charge it will be something to think about. What kind of backup line could you get for a limited amount of people that would be a reasonable price? If they were using another provider, adding Cogent would be a nice backup line. Going the other way around seems harder. Tazzman 06-15-2002, 10:04 PM Wouldn't he have to charge significantly more? ... I'll leave that to Petr to evaluate. I have no idea what the involved cost would be. I just offered it as food for thought. Tazzman 06-15-2002, 10:06 PM Just got this from Petr: sorry about the inconvinience, there was a DOS attack made on our router our tech guys are working on it and connection should be up soon shortly Petr smash 06-16-2002, 01:23 AM They've been down and unreliable for a while now and it's useless to send 'em an email since their whole network is down and they won't receive it until it comes back up. I have a server with them and I wasn't expecting high availability, it's not really possible at such a low price. Tazzman 06-16-2002, 01:19 PM Sorry to hear you have a bad experience with them. My experience with them has been excellent. This is probably the first downtime I've had in the past 2 months with close to none before that. The connection my server is on has always been reliable and fast as hell. I was transferring some linux rpm's from Redhat to my server the other week at 8 mb/s... prime 06-16-2002, 04:41 PM Between the email flood recently (?) and yesterday's DOS attack, it sure seems like someone's out to get them. AL-Benjamin 06-16-2002, 05:49 PM he's obveously very picky abput who he replies to. |