Anyone have any fraud attempts from this IP? He has placed a large order and we cannot find him on our fraud list, but we are thinking it is a little fishy?

200.242.84.76

Thanks

There is a big list somewhere on this forum, you might want to try the search, just put in the IP:)

If you think its a fraud order... Why don't you call the phone number your CC proccessor prolly collected??????

Well its from another country "BR" and there is no country code associated with "BR"

On a side note, is there an easy fraud checker out there aside from the fraud checker available from authorize.net to ensure more merchant protection...

Originally posted by dialuphost
Well its from another country "BR" and there is no country code associated with "BR"

On a side note, is there an easy fraud checker out there aside from the fraud checker available from authorize.net to ensure more merchant protection...


Not really....

Its mostly common sense, if 1 + 2 != 3 then its prolly fraud :D

Well its from another country "BR" and there is no country code associated with "BR"

Brazil?....

The URL for one of the lists is http://www-hosting.net/denied.html

Yeah, BR is Brazil heh. I just search that posted fraud list, it wasn't on there. There are a lot from Brazil and a lot from the netblock owner on there also. Is there a phone number assosciated with the card? I would suggest calling it. Better to spend 2 or 3 dollars than risk that much money.

we dont waste time with non us-canada orders

too much fraud, and try calling a foreign back/cc processor to confirm a card--not!

this seeems like a hard line, we got tired of 9/10 foreign orders being fraud....

so its a benefit to the rest of you that pick up what we miss, its just not worth the charge backs and headaches...

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Amen to NOT accepting anything from outside US or Canada!
Last year we received several chargebacks from overseas accounts. Most were from Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. Verification on credit cards was next to impossible.
Our new policy dictates that we only take US/Canada and verify EVERY credit card with a phone call. More headache initially, but way less headache in the long run.

So, you make pay the rest of the world because of a few stupid ones.

At Can-Host we accept everyone, no matter where you live. For security we open you account after your payment was verified and accepted by the bank. When we bill you the next month, if it says 'stolen' or something similar we close the account. If there is another problem (a payment didn't pass for one month, etc) we wait for a maximum of 30 days for you to fix the problem and pay. If you have still not pay after 30 days, we close the account. You must pay the due in whole and the next month before we re-open the account.

At the worst we have gave out one month of free hosting. For every fraud attempts (and we find 95% of them immediately since we verify all CCs by hand at the bank) we have 10 new, good, lasting customers. I say 10, but probably more than that, I am not working at the accountings.

Of course, for big services, such as dedicated servers, it's different. I think we have extra security verification for these, but as I said I am not working at the accountings.

Originally posted by Tom|420
So, you make pay the rest of the world because of a few stupid ones.
No, we don't make pay the rest of the world anything. If you can accept from anywhere, more power to you. Just a common sense business decision on our part, that's all. You get too many chargebacks on your merchant account, and your account will be terminated. Works well enough for us.

Hi

Had an order for £1,500 for virtual reseller account yesterday, fraudulant.

To Ed & Tom :

You're not accepting orders from countries other than the US and Canada ?
There might be quite some fraud from maleysia, indonesia,etc, but does that mean you have to block every single country except the US & Canada ? I mean, the world is bigger than just the US/Canada, not every other country in the world is filled with credit card thieves ...:eek:

Sorry, but I find this just ridiculous...

Apart from that, >50% of my customers are non US/Canada based, from countries all over the world, no fraud at all*. Just check the order carefully.




*) Keep my fingers crossed :)

Hi

I remember reading an article in one of the broadsheets about 45% of all credit card fraud being in the US!!

Thanks,

Originally posted by diederik
You're not accepting orders from countries other than the US and Canada ?
No, I think Tom meant he DID accept orders from anywhere. We, however, don't. Yes, we have had a few fraudulent credit cards from U.S. as well. But, it was MUCH easier to verify than from overseas countries. Not to mention the fact that when trying to verify credit cards from clients who speak a foreign language, plus the international charges, it's just not feasible. There are more than enough potential clients in the U.S. and Canada.
Like I said, if you can and do accept from anywhere, then that's your business. It is NOT, however ours.

we dont accept orders from outside the us and canada
and frankly thats our business, our decision, OUR perogative.

we got tired of the fraud...
or how about we got tired of
"cpanel is not in our native language and our clients cant use it give us a refund or we charge you back"-ever heard that one??

look thats what we do in our business, you can conduct your affairs as you wish and we will continue to conduct our affairs as we wish to.....

this is NOT meant to slander any group, like m corleone said
" it's strictly business "

I'm would be intrested into learning how to only allow US/Candian orders?
I would be all for that for the fact of not bein hasseled by frogein fraud!:mad:
Is there a CC processing company that does that or some kinda script built into website??

Info on how to get this done be much appreciated!!!!;) :stickout

So for you guys, places like the UK, Ireland, France etc. are considered highly fraudulant??

Originally posted by jstonehouse
So for you guys, places like the UK, Ireland, France etc. are considered highly fraudulant??
hahah ;) thats a good one ::eek:

a) UK is English speaking (yes it really is)
b) Consumer and Trader laws are structured to protect both parties very well
c) Fraud on a UK based credit card is tiny!

Your right, No they may not be.. but...
Is there a way to filter out countries that DO have fraud issues!
?:confused:

If not... I can live w US/Canadian orders only... Just to avoid Hassles w/ fraud / Payment timeliness (if there is an issue there):eek3:

Is there a CC service that has some way of filtering fraudulant countries out?

Originally posted by jstonehouse
So for you guys, places like the UK, Ireland, France etc. are considered highly fraudulent?? I'm from Ireland, but I don't understand what this thing you call "fraud" is? :D Seriously, never had a fraudulent order and charge-backs are non-existent, but please, stay away from my icle market ;)

::closes business

::gets on first boat to Ireland

::reopens business

:D

Hi

You can always ban ips from ranges used outside of low fraud countries.

Pay for a good fraud protection scheme, like WorldPay, www.worldpay.com

:)

WorldPay - 6p per transaction (whats that, about 10cents?) and you are guaranteed against fraud. :)

I know :) We use it on ours! Better safe then very very sorry!

we do not block ip blocks, that would potentially compromise our resellers.

we do block ips when fraud is committed

we trace ips from orders, most fraud will have a us address of record but an ip address of the fraudsters country

when we say we dont accept foreign orders we mean we accept ALL orders, except from ip that are blocked, we just dont PROCESS all orders.

life is too short to kill yourself over an $8.95/m account from abroad- they go into the circular file.

and really, it isnt that frequent that we get foreign orders anyway.

any views on FraudScreen.Net by authorize.net?

re any views on FraudScreen.Net by authorize.net?

its after the fact

use samspade.org
use mcaffee visual trace
get the ip of the person placing the order
verify the zip
verify the area code
call the number they give you
run a whois on the domain

dont accept orders from hotmail or that ilk

you'll get creamed like the rest of us till you get a feel for it
even then once in a while you still get tricked.....

good luck