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Tom|420
06-14-2002, 07:27 PM
Hello, this is Tom from Can-Host Networks, I will be short.

I have just added 3 low price servers on the list of our discounted dedicated servers. 2 of them are even FREE (just pay for the connection to the Internet).

450 MHZ
512 MB of Ram
30 GB Harddrive

Not the high tech one, but enough for most purposes. And it's FREE.

Be quick we don't have many of them. My only regret is that my boss did not allow me to use it myself.

http://services.can-host.com/.php/en/dedicated

The Prohacker
06-14-2002, 07:31 PM
You should have put that its a Cobalt in your post.... Ewwwwww.. :D

Tom|420
06-14-2002, 07:48 PM
Oh! The free 450 MHz is a Cobalt

Here is an alternative if you dislike Cobalt:

Dell Pedge 2500
Dual 1 GHZ
1 GIG Ram
3 - 18 GB Raid Hot-swap Drives
Redundent Power supply
$100.00/month + connection
Save $200.00/month
This server comes with FreeBSD pre-installed, but we could install Linux (any distribution) at no additional cost, if needed.

hostNOX
06-14-2002, 08:02 PM
Lol, Tom|420. Isn't 420 national smoke weed day?
:stickout Not that i do but hehe :D

The Prohacker
06-14-2002, 08:02 PM
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The Prohacker
06-14-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by hostNOX
Lol, Tom|420. Isn't 420 national smoke weed day?
:stickout Not that i do but hehe :D


Its not just a day, but a time 4:20 :D

mwatkins
06-14-2002, 08:09 PM
Never seen a hosting company use a cable company for connectivity before... not that they are the first but it is unusual.


rollei# ping about.can-host.com
PING about.can-host.com (24.215.1.50): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 24.215.1.50: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=69.315 ms
rollei# whois -a 24.215.1.50
Mountain Cablevision LTD. (NETBLK-MTNCABLE-1) MTNCABLE-1
24.215.0.0 - 24.215.47.255

Interesting.

mwatkins
06-14-2002, 08:16 PM
http://services.can-host.com/.php/en/co-location - bandwidth costs, starting at 128 kbps / 40.5 GB / $120.00

Jason_Berresford
06-14-2002, 08:18 PM
Hello,

We use Mountain Cable Vision Limited for our connectivity as you have noticed.

There are a few reasons we have done this..

1) We have a direct point to point Fiber Optics connection with them.

2) Location wise they are 15 KM from us, which allow for the fiberoptics to be run to our Temporary noc and our new one currently in construction. You can see a rough draft of our layout, and we will soon have pictures posted as the building is just about done.

http://about.can-host.com/.php/en/about?version=print

3) We have a very good relationship with the company, as you can see their website is also designed by us: www.mountaincable.net

4) They have great connectivity.

5) Multi-homed connections.

There are other reasons as well, however I think you get the point

Tom|420
06-14-2002, 08:20 PM
Actually 420 is a symbol used to indicate you are a marijuana smoker. Well, should be secret but, congratulations to those who found :P

If you needed a proof that marijuana does not turn you stupid, here it is... unless you find me stupid :P


For the guy who commented that we are using a cable connection for web hosting:

We are NOT connected through cable. Our ISP is mainly a cable provider, which is why we have IPs in the 24.xx.xx.xx range, but we are really connected through point-to-point fiber optic. Let's try out our max speed if you are not convinced :)

mwatkins
06-14-2002, 08:22 PM
I wasn't saying the relationship was a *bad* thing, just interesting. Clearly a relationship with a smaller cable player would be easier to establish than with Shaw or Rogers or their data subsidiaries.

Jason_Berresford
06-14-2002, 08:24 PM
True enough mwatkins, Mountain Cable themselves are over 40 years old. They have made some real breakthroughs in this area, and where ahead of them time in the industry by installing Fiberoptics some time ago in this area.

I simply wanted to give you a few details as some people don't understand why we would want to do such a thing. :)

mwatkins
06-14-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Tom|420
We are NOT connected through cable. Our ISP is mainly a cable provider, which is why we have IPs in the 24.xx.xx.xx range, but we are really connected through point-to-point fiber optic. Let's try out our max speed if you are not convinced :) [/B] Never said you were or suggested you were. I had already looked at your site.

What redundancy do you have when your point to point goes down? I'm picturing a tractor with an auger in rural Ontario. Just curious.

The Prohacker
06-14-2002, 08:27 PM
Its actually a great idea to peer with an ISP, since the users will generally only use the downstream and servers hardly ever use downstream.... Its kinda like the deal with RS and EV1...

mwatkins
06-14-2002, 08:29 PM
Jason - seems like a win-win for both to me. Too bad we only have big players here in Vancouver. Bandwidth generally is way too expensive up here.

Jason_Berresford
06-14-2002, 08:31 PM
hehe .. well we have a dusty OC3 hooked up .. It would not meet all of our bandwidth needs, but it would keep things up and running while the fiber is placed back together.

On top of that there is actually 2 sets of 6 pairs of fiber, one running on each side of a main highway. So in order to have a total fiber outage it would need to be some construction workers that can't read blueprints (Which has happened:) Or a really large bomb of some sort.

Hostlead
06-14-2002, 09:20 PM
heh I recognized the IP block :)

24.215.1.60:27015 is my favourite cs game server, when ever I get time to play heh
it's mountain cable too..so u should get 5-10 ping

Jason_Berresford
06-14-2002, 09:23 PM
What a small world it is. :)

My ping is:

PING 24.215.1.60 (24.215.1.60) from 24.215.1.50 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 24.215.1.60: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=1.298 msec

Jason_Berresford
06-14-2002, 09:29 PM
Or even better:


PING 24.215.1.60 (24.215.1.60) from 24.215.5.116 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 24.215.1.60: icmp_seq=0 ttl=127 time=701 usec

:)

netacore
06-14-2002, 09:51 PM
Tom,

I love your pictures, great camera work! Did you hurt your neck ;)

Tom|420
06-14-2002, 10:02 PM
lol

Do you mean the pictures in the About Us section? They are not from me, they are from Jason_Berresford who commented in the thread.

I like those pictures too, I show them off to all my friends and familly when I introduce them to Can-Host :)

cologroup
06-15-2002, 05:09 AM
Tom the pot smoker, I would like to put all of my eggs in your basket. :)

The cable connected, pot smoking, web host. What will we see next on this board?

LMAO

Jason_Berresford
06-15-2002, 06:43 AM
I'm sorry cologroup I don't find that amusing.

The personal activities of my employees is none of my business nor yours. As for the cable comment, read the rest of the posts.

Tom|420
06-15-2002, 11:50 AM
Actually the thread was about cheap servers available.

A lot of you here have nicks in connections with personal activities and things you like. You will never hear me discuss your nick in a thread about a cheap server offer.

Also, it's already been discussed that we are not using a cable connection even if our IP block is in a range usually used exclusively for cable.

Not that I don't appreciate the side discussion, but please if you would like to discuss something different from the main thread I would appreciate that you e-mail me directly instead.

Thanks :)

mwatkins
06-15-2002, 12:01 PM
cologroup:
Clearly you did not read the entire thread. Leveraging a relationship with a cable ISP clearly delivers benefits for these guys and for their customers. They are reasonably priced for a Canadian provider, and throughput to them is very good.

On the other hand, your site cologroup.com is the slowest I have ever seen, Vancouver to California. Perhaps look in your own back yard.

rollei# ping 209.126.182.40
PING 209.126.182.40 (209.126.182.40): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.126.182.40: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=152.795 ms
64 bytes from 209.126.182.40: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=158.664 ms


Thanks to your cheap Cogent lines...
2 ISPaddress.VANCBC08AR02.bb.telus.com (209.53.1.225) 12.763 ms 12.854 ms 13.330 ms
3 209.53.1.190 (209.53.1.190) 13.318 ms 209.53.1.222 (209.53.1.222) 13.189 ms 209.53.1.190 (209.53.1.190) 13.004 ms
4 vancbc01br01.bb.telus.com (204.174.217.38) 12.933 ms 14.023 ms vancbc01br01.bb.telus.com (204.174.217.6) 13.898 ms
5 clgrab21br01.bb.telus.com (209.53.75.182) 29.593 ms 29.850 ms 29.408 ms
6 clgrab31br01.bb.telus.com (154.11.10.165) 30.454 ms 30.636 ms 30.432 ms
7 chcnil23br00.bb.telus.com (205.233.111.194) 62.825 ms 63.406 ms 63.453 ms
8 so-3-1-0.cr1.ord2.us.mfnx.net (216.200.254.30) 63.413 ms 64.315 ms 64.018 ms
9 pos5-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.233.149) 83.498 ms 84.529 ms 84.330 ms
10 pos13-0.cr7.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.82) 78.189 ms 78.709 ms 79.013 ms
11 so-6-2-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (64.125.30.6) 78.700 ms 79.002 ms 79.271 ms
12 pos5-0.mpr1.pao1.us.mfnx.net (208.184.233.142) 79.038 ms 79.343 ms 79.192 ms
13 64.124.11.198.cogent-above.above.net (64.124.11.198) 141.131 ms 141.804 ms 140.959 ms
14 p6-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.145) 141.700 ms 141.858 ms 141.462 ms
15 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 145.808 ms 145.714 ms 145.474 ms
16 p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.73) 145.379 ms 145.421 ms 145.511 ms
17 p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.78) 148.229 ms 148.270 ms 148.491 ms
18 g8.ba21.b006588-1.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.66.110) 148.574 ms 148.673 ms 148.260 ms
19 ge1-2.gw65-02.kmc01.sdcix.net (66.28.28.126) 150.779 ms 150.839 ms 150.562 ms
20 40.182.126.209.in-addr.arpa (209.126.182.40) 149.855 ms 148.644 ms 150.788 ms


Normally I get response times of 20-35ms from your neck of the woods. Can-host is 60ms and farther away and much better throughput.

Actually, it gets worse. From El Segundo CA look at this mess...

1 | gate4 (207.151.152.1) ( 0.486/ 0.605/ 0.753) 3/3 100.0%
2 | ln-usc-100m.ln.net (207.151.151.1) ( 0.588/ 0.884/ 1.166) 3/3 100.0%
3 | 130.152.180.10 (130.152.180.10) ( 1.548/ 1.783/ 2.240) 3/3 100.0%
4 | 130.152.180.5 (130.152.180.5) ( 1.855/ 2.019/ 2.198) 3/3 100.0%
5 | 130.152.180.21 (130.152.180.21) ( 1.993/ 2.243/ 2.535) 3/3 100.0%
6 | mae-la.above.net (198.32.146.21) ( 2.558/ 2.594/ 2.633) 3/3 100.0%
7 | pos3-3.mpr2.lax2.us. (208.185.156.10) ( 2.653/ 2.987/ 3.561) 3/3 100.0%
8 | pos2-0.mpr1.sjc2.us. (208.185.156.125) ( 10.330/ 10.591/ 10.896) 3/3 100.0%
9 | so-1-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.u (208.184.102.202) ( 10.375/ 10.622/ 10.751) 3/3 100.0%
10 | pos6-0.mpr2.pao1.us. (208.185.175.162) ( 10.693/ 10.798/ 10.935) 3/3 100.0%
11 | 64.124.11.181.cogent (64.124.11.181) ( 77.046/ 77.517/ 77.944) 3/3 100.0%
12 | p6-0.core01.sfo01.at (66.28.4.145) ( 74.473/ 75.036/ 75.515) 3/3 100.0%
13 | p4-0.core01.sjc01.at (66.28.4.94) ( 76.869/ 77.039/ 77.218) 3/3 100.0%
14 | p13-0.core01.lax01.a (66.28.4.73) ( 77.084/ 77.405/ 77.855) 3/3 100.0%
15 | p5-0.core01.san01.at (66.28.4.78) ( 77.063/ 77.488/ 77.804) 3/3 100.0%
16 | g8.ba21.b006588-1.sa (66.28.66.110) ( 77.229/ 77.360/ 77.469) 3/3 100.0%
17 | ge1-2.gw65-02.kmc01. (66.28.28.126) ( 79.508/ 80.422/ 81.379) 3/3 100.0%
18 | 40.182.126.209.in-ad (209.126.182.40) ( 80.661/ 81.839/ 82.663) 3/3 100.0%

And amazingly, even from San Diego, which should be only a few ms away from you...

traceroute to 209.126.182.40 (209.126.182.40), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 198.202.76.98 (198.202.76.98) 1.271 ms 0.342 ms 0.988 ms
2 medusa.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.10) 0.896 ms 1.957 ms 1.140 ms
3 sd-nap.px.xo.com (198.17.46.118) 1.985 ms 2.354 ms 0.896 ms
4 a3-0d1.dist1.sdg-ca.us.xo.net (209.31.222.149) 61.795 ms 3.431 ms 3.910 ms
5 a14-0d169.tran1.lax-ca.us.xo.net (206.111.14.237) 10.879 ms 12.479 ms 16.022 ms
6 ge5-3-1.RAR1.LA-CA.us.xo.net (64.220.0.94) 12.314 ms 11.502 ms 13.119 ms
7 p6-0-0.RAR2.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.18) 21.307 ms 30.268 ms 27.666 ms
8 p0-0-0-2.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.1.69) 25.073 ms 20.272 ms 16.509 ms
9 65.106.5.194 (65.106.5.194) 18.251 ms 26.023 ms 21.689 ms
10 p6-1.pr1.sfr1.netrail.net (205.215.2.89) 19.227 ms 18.725 ms 20.353 ms
11 GigE2-1.tr1.SanFrancisco1.CA.us.netrail.net (205.215.12.1) 21.403 ms 23.325 ms 20.946 ms
12 p13-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.57) 18.644 ms 19.100 ms 21.724 ms
13 p15-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.69) 22.227 ms 20.636 ms 24.258 ms
14 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 19.149 ms 20.119 ms 23.887 ms
15 p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.73) 35.261 ms 44.808 ms 33.075 ms
16 p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.78) 33.103 ms 37.171 ms 35.641 ms
17 g8.ba21.b006588-1.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.66.110) 34.871 ms 34.401 ms 33.896 ms
18 ge1-2.gw65-02.kmc01.sdcix.net (66.28.28.126) 37.749 ms 65.214 ms 35.662 ms
19 40.182.126.209.in-addr.arpa (209.126.182.40) 35.544 ms 40.675 ms 77.523 ms

cologroup.com Learn a thing or two about sales, slagging your competitor is no way to win business.

sorry to hijack the thread

The Prohacker
06-15-2002, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by cologroup
Tom the pot smoker, I would like to put all of my eggs in your basket. :)

The cable connected, pot smoking, web host. What will we see next on this board?

LMAO

Ahh....

The newbie posting, slow dedicated server selling, troll.... What will we see next on this board? Opps, already saw this several times :D

XTNet
06-15-2002, 02:37 PM
420 doesnt represent someone who smokes weed, or national smoke pot day, its the number of carcinogens in marijuana.

The Prohacker
06-15-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by XTNet
420 doesnt represent someone who smokes weed, or national smoke pot day, its the number of carcinogens in marijuana.


Again, if anyone is easily offended, don't click the link...

http://prohacker.hypermart.net/gives.gif

Jason_Berresford
06-15-2002, 09:05 PM
Its amazing how conversations transform from one thing to the next. :) I think someone should write a book on the subject.

The Prohacker
06-15-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Jason_Berresford
Its amazing how conversations transform from one thing to the next. :) I think someone should write a book on the subject.


But how long would it be on subject of transforming subjects, before it transformed also???? :D