I have the following template for sale, if anyones interested could they place their bids in this thread.

The bidding for this template starts at $10! and will include the html page, style sheet, plus the .psp files to edit the heading, plan names and the welcome to .. header. Or I can customise these for you at no extra cost.

Payment for this will be via paypal only.

Thanks a lot,

Oli.

http://www.oswd.org/viewdesign.phtml?id=486&referer=%2Fsearch.phtml%3Fsearch%3Dcitrus%26creator%3Dany


:rolleyes:

BUSTED!

"please take what you find here and use it for whatever you want. "

hm .. what did I miss? :)

regards,
-dave

fair enough, spoke to whompy and now ive taken it down.
I wasnt ripping anyone because he said use it for whatever u want

I doubt they meant to sell it though. Plus, why does someone who does design need to sell a design from OSWD anyway?

Andyc

I am still not 100% surewhat I have missed, but my guess is that you try to sell somebody's else design. The site may say that "you can take whatever you want" but if you offer design service to people and just sell your design this way, people will not look into your business seriously or even worse, people will look down at your business. A good designer always put his/her best effort into the design and take all the designs personally from the beginning. These are the starting point of creativity and that's what people are looking for. I am sure you will do well if you really do this.

Good luck in the future

regards,
-dave

I'm fairly sure you can do just about anything you want to an open source design.

The reason I posted the link was to inform people, I think it's rather unscrupulous to post a barely modified open source design for sale without informing the potential buyers that it is not a copyrighted design.

I, for one, would be mad as hell to buy this design, only to find out later that it's on oswd.org.

Anyways, I think dalecom admitted the source and handled himself well, and we can all move on now. :)

I don't know about OSWD, but with Open Source (GPL) software, it is legal to charge a fee for distributing liscenses.

View here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.html

However, I don't think it is right in anyone's mind to earn a profit for selling something that somebody else has worked hard on (while you have done nothing). :rolleyes:

I did work on the design, I would not just put up someone elses work and call it mine. On the template it said "please take what you find here and use it for whatever you want. " and I did but changed the design and added my custom graphics to it.

Oli.

I think he was just trying to make some easy money around here, which simply can't be done anymore :(

The designs on OSWD are Open Source. You may take them, throw them on a disc, and market the disc as a collection of designs and charge for it. I am pretty sure they wouldn't even have to be modified, however...

As these are open source designs, they can be modified and sold, just as you can modify Red Hat linux and sell it as your own server software (though you cannot call it Red Hat anything, and the terms are not the exact same, as it is software, not a design).

What he did was fine. He can sell a modified version, or use the design as the base of a site he's developing for a client (and charging them), etc.

I missed it also but...

in my opinion, when he tried to sell someone else's 'open source' design, he should've at least added a note in his first post that the design is not unique and also maybe even credited the 'open source' site... at this point, it seemed like he just took the design just to make a quick buck - which I find disturbing considering he is a designer...

Hello, I'm MonkeyMan (Aaron), the lead developer for OSWD. I knew this issue would come up someday, but I still haven't found a solution. Obviously taking a bunch of OSWD designs and reselling it on a disk without modifying any of it is offensive at the least. Against the rules? Not exactly. It's hard for regular software licenses to apply to web designs, because there are no binaries, just by using a design on your site you are distributing the source. Under GPL, credit has to go back to all the developers that worked on your code. I would prefer it if users downloading designs didn't have to give credit on every page of their website, but I would like credit given if they distribute it in an OSWD gallery style, or like the guy trying to sell the design here. But how do you say that in legalese? I would just hire a lawyer but we have no (well, negative) income. I like the idea of the design not being copyrighted even if you modify it, so if site X thinks it's unfair for site Y to use a "misleading" design, tough. Anyway, if you want to propose any solutions, none of this is set in stone yet. Feel free to post any suggestions.