Hello,

I have been out of the reseller hosting market for some time.
Who are the top ten players for the professional host in terms of:
CPanel, uptime, fast servers, support, prices, CentOS? (listed according to importance)

Regards,
Rocco.

I don't know actual ranking. You should check out Alexa or Webhosting.info if you want numbers. They are not accurate numbers but they are a ballpark estimate, that is okay just to compare relative size, popularity or growth.

This is not a scientific study, but I think three major Windows resellers are Vortech (http://www.vortechhosting.com/), Cartika Hosting (http://www.cartikahosting.com/) and Jodohost (http://www.jodohost.com/).

I've been a Jodohost customer for more than a year and think their servers are a little slow.

I was a Reseller-Center customer in the past and had just about the worst hosting experience possible -- sites and email were down for days.


Gary

It would be very difficult to create a top 10. People have different experiences and different requirements. Top 10 lists you see places are usually just the hosts paying for the ad. Many hosts add their unique touch to the services they provide. It's just a matter of finding the right one for you...

Hello again,
Of course I was not refering to NASDAQ companies, just the seasonal high, affordable hosts. I am expecting your opinions/experiences according to the specific criteria I have set, not numbers and statistics!

Rocco.

Hello again,
Of course I was not refering to NASDAQ companies, just the seasonal high, affordable hosts. I am expecting your opinions/experiences according to the specific criteria I have set, not numbers and statistics!

Rocco.

In that case, ResellerZoom is among the best that type of hosting. Buy their Advanced plans, not their budget plan if you want the faster, more reliable servers. Their support is top notch and they provide end user support too.

i wish there was a better way to track the actual sizes of webhosting companies , makes it easier to see where you fit into the market

HostGator, ResellersPanel, and ResellerZoom all go on the list for different aspects (sheer size, price, etc). I don't think an actual "official" list has been compiled, though. Perhaps that's something we'll look into doing. ;)

I've been a Jodohost customer for more than a year and think their servers are a little slow.


We use InterNap as or primary network provider and have invested in good hardware and administrators. We hardly get complaints of slow speed. If you are having issues, I suggest you open a ticket. We can look into your config, suggest improvements or move you to another server

Based on personal experience and my requirements, it's
1. HostGator
2. ResellerZoom

My "stay away from" list includes:
1. Site5
2. midPhase
3. BliksemHosting
4. HostDime (from some years back)

Again, my personal experience. It varies from user to user. No such thing really as a definitive top 10 as each one has different needs

I agree that Cpanel is the #1 choice for reseller hosting.
There are other "major" reseller hosting providers who do not advertise on WHT
So do not rely too much on WHT :D

Based on personal experience and my requirements, it's
1. HostGator
2. ResellerZoom
..snip...

The big difference between them is that HostGator allows you to offer unlimited domains on any size hosting package but does not allow overselling of your disk space. So when you have allocated 5 GB of disk space, you are forced to upgrade.

ResellerZoom limits the number of domains you can host to 1 per each 40 MB of disk space, but allows you to oversell your space. So you can sell more packages than you have disk space and upgrade your plan when you're running low. IMO, overselling the space that is not being used is more profitable since you're paying for that space anyway. Where as, offering unlimited domains isn't really possible with a limited amount of server resources and is risky. Someone could try to put 2000 domains on a small shared plan and overload the entire server. Realistic limits are always a good idea.

I use resller zoom and their system was overloaded, and then shut down for an entire day.
Can anyone recommend a host whose systems don't go down for days at a time?

I use resller zoom and their system was overloaded, and then shut down for an entire day.
Can anyone recommend a host whose systems don't go down for days at a time?

Hi, what plan do you have with them????


THanks

an advanced plan -

Reseller Professional

I use resller zoom and their system was overloaded, and then shut down for an entire day.
Can anyone recommend a host whose systems don't go down for days at a time?

Avoid using cheap manual control panels and relying on a large hard drive to be "enough" space. This is an inherent problem with any control panel where you can't easily move domains between servers. If the hard drive is full, it takes time to add another big hard drive and migrate the domains from one to the other, just as it takes time to manually migrate domains to another server. Also, changing servers could change your IP and cause 24 hours of downtime. This should probably be expected from time to time from any host that offers cPanel. It's a built in flaw with that type of manual control panel.

To have a very high uptime like our 99.999% servers, you need a lot of servers with a lot of small SCSI hard drives that can be replaced and restored within an hour or two. You need a control panel that allows you to quickly move websites between servers without interrupting them. You need a load balanced system where websites are automatically migrated between servers to keep them balanced, for top performance. You need your websites distributed across multiple servers so that if one fails, it doesn't take down all of your websites at the same time. You need dedicated IP numbers for each website so that migrating them between servers does not interrupt them.

This is the type of high-end performance you get from other control panels like Alabanza and iBiz Panel, that you can't get from cPanel.

ServersAndDomains, you are speaking my language - small, fast scsi drives, distributed accounts, automated migrations - I agreed with pretty much everything you have said (and stuff I have been pounding on these forums for a long time) - until this statement:

You need dedicated IP numbers for each website so that migrating them between servers does not interrupt them.

I am not sure how Alabanza and iBiz Panel work exactly in these capacities (can you please verify that you need a dedicated IP for each website - I would find that strange). However, you certainly do not need, nor should you use, nor can you justify 1 IP per website.

With H-Sphere, you can start a move process from server 1 to server 2 for example - the IP address will change (either from shared IP on server 1 to shared IP on server 2 or from a dedicated IP on server 1 to a different dedicated IP on server 2) - however, h-sphere will setup port forwarding for 24-48 hours from the old server to the new server before the data from the source server is deleted. This results in zero downtime.

I also completely agree that this sort of distributed model is really the only way to ensure a prolonged 99.9%+ uptime over a prolonged period of time - Especially when considering reseller hosting and especially when overselling comes into play.

I am not sure how Alabanza and iBiz Panel work exactly in these capacities (can you please verify that you need a dedicated IP for each website - I would find that strange). I used an Alabanza host before and every account came with a dedicated IP. Even if you were just spending $5/month to host a picture of your dog, it was on its own IP.

I used an Alabanza host before and every account came with a dedicated IP. Even if you were just spending $5/month to host a picture of your dog, it was on its own IP.

WOW - I wonder how they justify the ip usage

WOW - I wonder how they justify the ip usage
"We need to install one billion SSL certs today" ;)

I always figured IP justification wasn't really needed--or at least not verified in any way--since they're huge and they've been doing it for years.

I used 5dollarhosting before and that's how they were setup. I guess they're hard to beat for a small commerce site that needs SSL--but not tons of features, unlimited domains, etc... since you can get a plan with IP for about the same price some places charge for an addon IP.

"We need to install one billion SSL certs today"

LOL - I will try that one next time :)


I always figured IP justification wasn't really needed--or at least not verified in any way--since they're huge and they've been doing it for years.

It is certainly needed and verfified from time to time with audits.

They are obviously pulling it off, and I am not doubting it - just surprising is all (at least to me - which may or may not mean anything at all :) )

iBiz Panel must work similar to H-sphere. It doesn't have a dedicated IP number for every website. It somehow migrates domains between servers automatically without any downtime. I honestly don't know how that works, but it works well. It results in 99.999% uptime.

However, Alabanza's software is different. It uses a dedicated IP number for every website. That is how they track statistics, bandwidth, disk space and other stuff. It is how their software, the DSM has worked since it was created in the 1990's. They justify it simply by saying that is what their sofware requires. Their marketing technique is to up-sell everything to squeeze the most profit out of each website. It is by far the most profitable business we have going.

I really like the Alabanza DSM and control panels, much more than I like H-sphere or cPanel, for what it does. But I only wish that it used shared IP numbers, as it it is so much cheaper to host multiple websites that way. For example, because Alabanza requires a dedicated IP number for every website, on that system I can't offer a hosting plan where you have multiple websites on one hosting package. That makes it markedly more expensive. The server can only accompdate 2 to 3 class C address blocks, so you are limited to 500 - 750 domains per server. Therfore, the price per domain must be higher to pay for the server, which cost over $1195/mo for Dual Xeon's and the license to use their DSM and CP software.

One thing I can say is that the customers we host on the Alabanza servers and control panels, are the happiest and most satisfied customers we have!

I was a Reseller-Center customer in the past and had just about the worst hosting experience possible -- sites and email were down for days.


Gary[/QUOTE]


I am still a reseller-center customer and my major complaint is that the support people do not appear to be able to understand and reply to TTs in english. Does anyone else have this problem?

I have stuck with them through thick and thin, but at present I have a simple Webalizer query and they can't seem to understand or reply in English.

Anybody know about webhostasp? Their window hosting is good? I am looking for a reseller windows hoting plan. Welcome your expericences sharing

I don't know actual ranking. You should check out Alexa or Webhosting.info if you want numbers. They are not accurate numbers but they are a ballpark estimate, that is okay just to compare relative size, popularity or growth.

webhosting.info wont work well for "reseller hosting" since it only give numbers of people using your DNS servers, since resellers and their clients use private nameservers, you can have 20k users and only show 500 in webhosting.info

me too searching for reseller account. want to go with hostgator but cant bcoz of high price.. 24.xx$