Hi, Im looking for UK Unix resellers or resellers anywhere with UK servers with Cpanel.

I've been with Donhost last couple of years and have finally got fed up with their support (or lack of it) and their out of date service.

Im currently trying out hostgator, who are absolutely brilliant for their service and support but Im finding their servers slow and the US timestamp is frustrating me. I can get round my php programs but uploaded files have the US datetime.

Budget upto £50 per month.

Any recommendations would be much appreciated.

Thanks

TJ

Cant you add code to the PHP to change the datetime?

Has anyone used dataflame? Ive found a few good reviews but not many...
http://www.dataflame.co.uk/reseller_allplans.html

reviews/comments
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=375781&highlight=dataflame
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=374742&highlight=dataflame
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=387708&highlight=dataflame

Hello TJ,
A good outfit that has been around for a while is www.UnitedHosting.co.uk. Check them out.

-Steven

Try searching, there are lots of us UK Hosts around. :)

And take a look at www.forum2.co.uk

a long time ago i used www.catalyst2.com their not bad. Servers are London based.

Or you could try something like http://www.vizonhost.com

Not a big name but I moved some customers there a few months back, seems good so far in terms of reliability.

Why ?
surely with the equipment / technolgy in place now, the DC location
should not matter 'that much'

To the OP... do a bit of digging before signing up - something as simple as a traceroute to their webiste may well revela if they really are a "Host" or simply a reseller of a reseller etc

You dont specify what you want for your £50 budget ;)



surely with the equipment / technolgy in place now, the DC location
should not matter 'that much'
Ah, you're new then ...

Ah, you're new then ...

Well 51 years new actualy

Seriously I thought 'nowdays' a well managed quality US server*
would perform (or appear to perform) as quick as an
'Average' UK server.
*yes US is big, so depends on West or East etc, as well

I know that's a huge oversimplification, but in 'the real world'
pinging times, trace routes etc. are pretty meaningles, lets face it 1xSilly size image will undo any 'perseved' benifit of a UK server ?

Now it's obvious (on the web side) I'm not that techie, but on the business side
I have tended to notice there are more potential customers outside of the UK
than inside, many do not love the US, but the US is (by the majority of the world)
perseved as the masters of the internet, and the UK are the 'also ran'.

What do others think ?
I just think we are all a bit 'hung up' on this,

Brian 51 years young

Well 51 years new actualy

Seriously I thought 'nowdays' a well managed quality US server*
would perform (or appear to perform) as quick as an
'Average' UK server.
*yes US is big, so depends on West or East etc, as well

I know that's a huge oversimplification, but in 'the real world'
pinging times, trace routes etc. are pretty meaningles, lets face it 1xSilly size image will undo any 'perseved' benifit of a UK server ?

Now it's obvious (on the web side) I'm not that techie, but on the business side
I have tended to notice there are more potential customers outside of the UK
than inside, many do not love the US, but the US is (by the majority of the world)
perseved as the masters of the internet, and the UK are the 'also ran'.

What do others think ?
I just think we are all a bit 'hung up' on this,

Brian 51 years young

The loading times is one of a plethora of reasons to weigh up.

For me, it would always be search engine related. Many people miss out on a lot of £££££ simply beause they have a .com and don't host it in the UK.

Also, lots of UK consumers like dealing with UK people. Same way lots of US people, like to deal with Americans ;)

Well 51 years new actualy
Mere whippersnapper, when I were a lad, we had to walk 82 miles t'pit ....


Seriously I thought 'nowdays' a well managed quality US server*
would perform (or appear to perform) as quick as an
'Average' UK server.


Ah if only ;)

forgetting the huge overselling debates, and the "the market is different, uk=quality, us=(no comment)" type stuff ...

There are a huge number of reasons to place the service(s) nearest to the target audience:
* inclusion in regional search engines - google.co.uk for example ;)
* performance to the end-user - you'd be suprised at the difference even berkshire to london makes, especially when you realise that practically *all* the uk internet connectivity goes through docklands
* size of transatlantic / cross country internet pipes
* transit & peering commitments between providers
* removing routing problems
* closeness to "handoff" points and peering exchanges
and so on

simplified example:
yesterday theplanet in texas had a "bit of a problem" with their connectivity to certain providers, the main route from there to my home would be (various-people) to level3 into aexiomus onto valueadsl and into my laptop
due to whatever issues every server in their 4 datacentres, including the whole of the servermatrix customer base, all ceased to exist about 2am for almost 3 hours - tens of millions of websites, millions of bedroom-host cpanel resellers, thousands of boxes- all no longer existed, no dns, no web, no mail etc

yes the box will be up, yes *some* of the world might see it, but if you're customers are primarily UK based, you just bounced all their emails, made them look to their clients like they dont exist, spoilt the "experience" or whatever

when "major" frvckups happen (and they do, all too regularly) like a fishing trawler accidentally catching clueless&witless fibre coming up out of the sea, and continents vanish offline while someone gets a new roll of gaffa-tape out, most dial up and dsl providers suddenly find their support lines full of people winging that they cant bitch-torrent their p0rn anymore

the more networks you put in the way between $server and $user the more problems you *will* get. its like murphy's law to the n'th power.

every device a packet goes through *will* slow it down, again the more "hops" (assuming everything else is equal) generally the longer things will take.

savvy clients *will* do things like traceroutes as part of their due-dilligence on a service, and if its a "uk host" but all the boxes are at rackshod in outer-mongolia, they will go somewhere else.

so those of us concerned about our autonomous networks look to reduce the number of AS paths/hops/whatever , we try to remove points of failure, we put our networks in multiple countries if we target those audiences and so on.

yes you can get a pizza from pizza-deliver-r-us, or from sooper-dooper-pizzas - but if pdru is 2 miles (hops) away and sdp is 2,800 miles (hops) away, which one are you prepared to rely on to get it to you hot ? even if sdp is only 10% of the price, you'd still order from the closer one wouldnt you ?

there are a *lot* of other reasons, but its v.late and us oldies need our sleep - cept I now have a craving for a deep-pan meatfeast ... :eek:

There are a huge number of reasons to place the service(s) nearest to the target audience:
* inclusion in regional search engines - google.co.uk for example ;)
* performance to the end-user - you'd be suprised at the difference even berkshire to london makes, especially when you realise that practically *all* the uk internet connectivity goes through docklands
...
...
so those of us concerned about our autonomous networks look to reduce the number of AS paths/hops/whatever , we try to remove points of failure, we put our networks in multiple countries if we target those audiences and so on.
...
...
I now have a craving for a deep-pan meatfeast ... :eek:


Wonderful post and I second all of the above quite readily!

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http://uk.resellerzoom.com/

Hello, try with http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk/ are fine