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Hassan
09-11-2006, 06:46 AM
Hello,

I am feeling slow while browsing at WHT from last few days,
Pages takes long to load,

Anyone els having this type of problem ?

Best Regards
Hassan

anon-e-mouse
09-11-2006, 07:11 AM
I feel slow too sometimes :) But WHT seems to be okay. Sometimes search lags a bit (too long), but otherwise things are looking good from my end :)

catfished
09-11-2006, 11:49 AM
Hello,

I am feeling slow while browsing at WHT from last few days,
Pages takes long to load,

Anyone els having this type of problem ?

Best Regards
Hassan

I've been experiencing slow loading pages at WHT off and on for at least six months. Everytime I experience it, I swear I'm going to quit WHT cold turkey but like any addict, I can't quit.:eek: :o :rolleyes:

Konrad4
09-11-2006, 03:12 PM
I usually don't have any problems with the loading speed of WHT.

peruviantalk
09-11-2006, 05:00 PM
connecting to WHT is like LAN to me ;0

this is why i visit it everyday.

Tyler
09-11-2006, 05:02 PM
The search is pretty bad lately, but perfect other than that.

jerett
09-11-2006, 05:52 PM
Yea WHT on norm is pretty fast. Search occasionally like Ty mentioned is slow but other than that - perfect. Sometimes Catfished there is nothing like a slow drip line of your favorite drug. ;) (kidding of course)

The Dude
09-11-2006, 06:42 PM
My ISP is slow as hell the last few days............

I think they started exctracting more $$$ for the 5Meg package and they downgraded us to the 1.5-3M package :(

:kaioken:

stu17
09-15-2006, 07:34 PM
WHT is always slow for me :(

mellow-h
09-16-2006, 02:01 AM
Yes, WHT really needs some optimzation. It is quite enough slow then other big boards.

NWSTech
09-16-2006, 05:06 AM
wht is slow for me at times also, so ill second the optimization idea

UK-Networks
09-16-2006, 08:56 AM
Lol, WHT was down for me for like 20minutes last nite too:(

Steven
09-16-2006, 10:23 AM
For the amount of users and the number of servers they claim to have, there is absolutely no reason it should be slow/have slowdowns/etc.

Come on INET you get paid by advertisers, why not do something about making wht faster so people will actually browse and see the advertiser ads?

catfished
09-16-2006, 12:08 PM
Lol, WHT was down for me for like 20minutes last nite too:(
Same here in California. Since no one else had mentioned it, I thought it was a local issue.

UK-Networks
09-16-2006, 12:15 PM
I know it wasn't a local issue as I checked from servers in UK, Paris, and Texas:)

I am also getting 404's atm on pages I know exist....

TrinityIce
09-16-2006, 04:42 PM
Sometimes WHT is slow for me....but today it has been really fast and most of the time quite ok....

Maybe a poll to gauge?

WebHostWoman
09-16-2006, 04:44 PM
Yes, I had trouble accessing WHT last night at one point myself. It was maybe 20-30 minutes until I could finally get on the site.

SynergyWorks
09-16-2006, 10:43 PM
Never had a problem with the loading speed of WHT... guess our transits up to scratch ;)

OH-Bill
09-16-2006, 11:13 PM
I've been having occasional problems recently, but right now the speeds are excellent.
*nock on wood
;)

Jeremy
09-19-2006, 06:29 AM
Searching doesn't work for me at all, i get a nice clean white page :)

JKhoury
09-19-2006, 10:20 AM
I've also been having problems with speeds, however I think it's probably safe to say the problem is more on my end. The connections been pretty unstable today.

jerett
09-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Well - I am not sure what exactly is happening but searchs from time to time are quite slow on my end as well. I have heard from others as well saying the same.

qwidjib0
09-19-2006, 01:15 PM
Someone should sell them some hosting. :rolleyes:

I think I remember they had a load balancer blow up somewhat recently that caused a bit of downtime, maybe the back-end's just not running at full steam for the moment?

W4 Hosting
09-27-2006, 11:24 AM
Hmm search taking move then 5 mins..

jerett
09-27-2006, 11:52 AM
Yes I agree. I wish someone from WHT would actually update this post to explain why the searches take so long. But so far - not one has posted in here.

The Prohacker
09-27-2006, 12:47 PM
Yes I agree. I wish someone from WHT would actually update this post to explain why the searches take so long. But so far - not one has posted in here.


I have actually responded to several past threads about searches being slow :)

WebHostingTalk and virtually every other large forum utilizes MySQL's full text searching of MyISAM tables. Several months ago, those full text searches were running against the post table a single db server. As many of you know MyISAM lacks row level locking, so a huge read (such as a full text search) will lock out all other queries until it completes. Searches were literally bringing the entire site to a crawl and something had to be done. We have since setup replication and have replicated the WHT database to a slave db server. All search queries are now being ran off that slave database.

All normal queries to build pages and show threads are being run from the master database. The search queries are still locking the post table, but only on the slave server. So searches are only affecting other searches. We are trying to work out a better way for searches to work but this is a common complaint with any large forum. As far as I can tell many of the largest forums online either disable search, require a premium membership, or only index part of the post table.

We have several ideas on how to fix this, many of them are not easy to implement or cheap either.

-Mat

Alex
09-27-2006, 01:15 PM
I just start the Search, go get something to eat, and come back and the search is done! :). I was poking around my own installs of vb 3.6 and unfortunatly I don't think the problem has been fixed there :S.


Alex

The Prohacker
09-27-2006, 01:33 PM
I just start the Search, go get something to eat, and come back and the search is done! :). I was poking around my own installs of vb 3.6 and unfortunatly I don't think the problem has been fixed there :S.


Alex


It's not really a bug, just a limitation in the technology being used. If MySQL launched row level locking in MyISAM tables the problems would almost all go away. Or if they added full text to InnoDB (which has row level locking, along with some other nice features for a huge web site) that would also work. Someone has launched a project called sqlsearch (http://firestuff.org/wordpress/projects/sqlsearch/) to add full text searching to InnoDB, but I don't know how it's progressing yet.

Alex
09-27-2006, 02:29 PM
I think I remember from when vb 3.6 was in early beta one of the improvements was to be the search function. Obviously that one got pushed aside.

Any word on WHT 3.6? :P


Alex

jerett
09-27-2006, 02:39 PM
ProHacker - thank you so much for the update. I apologize if I couldn't find your previous threads as well - the search was a bit slow. ;)

I hope all goes well with possible fixes in the new future.

Again, Thanks

The Prohacker
09-27-2006, 02:55 PM
I think I remember from when vb 3.6 was in early beta one of the improvements was to be the search function. Obviously that one got pushed aside.

Any word on WHT 3.6? :P


Alex

I don't foresee any major improvements in search until we see changes in MySQL. A majority of Jelsoft's clients do not have any issues with search, only a handful of huge sites do, like WHT, so I don't see them doing anything drastic unless they have too. I plan to have a more permanent fix in place by Q2-2007, but that’s just my hope.

ProHacker - thank you so much for the update. I apologize if I couldn't find your previous threads as well - the search was a bit slow. ;)

I hope all goes well with possible fixes in the new future.

Again, Thanks


I completely understand :) I hate search, I despise it with a passion. About once a week, I check mailing lists and forums for any new developments in searching of forums and databases.

The most promising is sqlsearch on InnoDB, but I'm not holding my breathe :)

westcan
09-27-2006, 04:31 PM
If the search is being funky and/or you're in a hurry and your query isn't about something that was freshly posted you can use google's site search which works quite well.

Example (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=site%3Awebhostingtalk.com+steve+irwin&btnG=Search).

sirius
09-27-2006, 09:44 PM
If the search is being funky and/or you're in a hurry and your query isn't about something that was freshly posted you can use google's site search which works quite well.

Example (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=site%3Awebhostingtalk.com+steve+irwin&btnG=Search).

Great advice - and has worked well on many occassions. There are times when I can't find a "more recent" thread, but when searching has been slower than normal, I will switch over to the Google-monster. :)

Sirius

robertmitchell
10-05-2006, 03:05 PM
Hello,

I am feeling slow while browsing at WHT from last few days,
Pages takes long to load,

Anyone els having this type of problem ?

Best Regards
Hassan

Ya.. Now a Days.. Really I feel WHT is tooo Slow.. Might be due to more memebers and more posts in online...