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View Full Version : Your preferred control panel...
ringnebula 09-01-2006, 07:30 PM As a reseller, what control panel do you prefer to use? Which one do you feel offers you the most flexibility as a reseller, the most intuitive interface, etc?
Specifically, I am wondering about panels on *nix servers.
Thanks for your thoughts
zacharooni 09-01-2006, 08:42 PM DirectAdmin FTFW!
Net Layer 09-01-2006, 08:51 PM CPanel is better for me, DirectAdmin is in future consideration.
ringnebula 09-01-2006, 09:00 PM Why exactly is cPanel better for you at this point?
cywkevin 09-01-2006, 09:12 PM Why exactly is cPanel better for you at this point?
Maybe he likes to run insecure installs of his backend software?
Net Layer 09-01-2006, 09:25 PM If you know how to customise and prevent, it's not an unsecure install. Don't use it by default. Most hosts offer that cp as basic, do that mean they make a bad choice for their customer ?
Why exactly is cPanel better for you at this point?
Easy to use, easy to manage.
catfished 09-01-2006, 11:57 PM Easy to use, easy to manage.
That's why I voted for it.:agree:
RossMAN 09-02-2006, 12:50 AM DirectAdmin > cPanel
H Sphere is on a whole other level and offers true hosting automation.
ringnebula 09-02-2006, 10:11 PM H Sphere is on a whole other level and offers true hosting automation.
My personal opinion too is that HSphere isn't even a competitor here, but that it is far superior to the others. It surprises me that it is so much less popular than the others.
ServersAndDomains 09-03-2006, 05:58 PM H-sphere is probably the most powerful software to use, but it is also more expensive and extremely (Drives you nuts) complicated to manage. For resellers and end users. The control panel servers can also be really slow if you don't prepair them for heavy traffic loads.
In my opinion, you should have the iBiz Panel at the top of your list!
Martie 09-03-2006, 07:29 PM Well we still prefer Alabanza (their in -house cp) They were around BEFORE cpanel. Ive used Ensim (would prefer that over cpanel) Plesk has always been pretty good from what I hear (havent used it though) BUT I really like what Im hearing about DirectAdmin (looks pretty good for the end user)
As far as cpanel---> :eek: There are TONS of hosts that offer it now--resellers, upon resellers, and so it goes. Ive always thought that "fantastico" is OVERKILL (IMO) I feel they contribute alot of the confusion in the industry that we see today.
I'm surprised to see someone mention Ensim in this thread. When I had used it late 2001, early 2002, it didn't work very well. A lot of errors when adding domains and such. Granted, 4 years can change anything, but it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth from back then :(
Martie 09-03-2006, 07:46 PM I'm surprised to see someone mention Ensim in this thread. When I had used it late 2001, early 2002, it didn't work very well. A lot of errors when adding domains and such. Granted, 4 years can change anything, but it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth from back then :(
LOL, I will have to get back to you on the dates that I actually used it but it was OVERALL pretty good (I think it was around 03) At first we had the basic Ensim and then upgraded to Pro (when it first came out)
The thing that I actually dispise about cpanel is this:
FIRSTLY, newbie clients THINK that cpanel is the only control panel IN existence.
SECONDLY, fantastico, the OVERKILL application of the one click install of scripts that one offers is ridiculous. The best way I know to describe that, again is OVERKILL! Why not take the time to explain to your client "download the free script and we can assist with the install"( UGH!!) and then of course let them know they need to keep it updated.
INSTEADwe see post after post recommending "cpanel with fantistico" WHY? I honestly do not know.
ringnebula 09-03-2006, 07:50 PM H-sphere is probably the most powerful software to use, but it is also more expensive and extremely (Drives you nuts) complicated to manage. For resellers and end users. The control panel servers can also be really slow if you don't prepair them for heavy traffic loads.
In my opinion, you should have the iBiz Panel at the top of your list!
I haven't had any experience myself with iBiz Panel and don't see it mentioned often but perhaps I'll give it a look now.
My personal opinion is that hsphere's increased cost is pretty negligible considering the capabilities of the package and it's relative completeness.
Well, you can't really blame cPanel for their great marketing efforts in making newbie clients think it's the only control panel in existence. I agree it does have it's bugs, and I agree with Fantastico. The market dictates what services and software should be offered. Fantastico doesn't do anything special. Heck, it doesn't do anything hard either. Most scripts are already just "upload, click on install.php".
Until the day all of us can convince clients that anyone (including them!) can easily install scripts or ask for help, Fantastico will always have it's place on the market.
Martie 09-03-2006, 08:56 PM Until the day all of us can convince clients that anyone (including them!) can easily install scripts or ask for help, Fantastico will always have it's place on the market.
BUT it really doesnt take much convincing. Any client can download a (example) phpbb in about 5 minutes and then a manual install really should NOT take over about 10 minutes. A good host WILL assist them. Ive seen host after host, "post" in the general forums "look for a host that offers fantistico" you can install this or that with a few clicks. Its OVERKILL.
Aussie Bob 09-03-2006, 09:00 PM BUT it really doesnt take much convincing. Any client can download a (example) phpbb in about 5 minutes and then a manual install really should NOT take over about 10 minutes. A good host WILL assist them. Ive seen host after host, "post" in the general forums "look for a host that offers fantistico" you can install this or that with a few clicks. Its OVERKILL.
Aye, but it's what a section of the market demands/needs/wants. :eek:
Martie 09-03-2006, 11:32 PM Aye, but it's what a section of the market demands/needs/wants. :eek:
:rofl: Of course...they want cheap and dont know anything else exists! :rofl:
cartika-andrew 09-04-2006, 12:03 AM Aye, but it's what a section of the market demands/needs/wants.
I think the argument can be made that the clients actually want access to the scripts and that the hosts want the script installers to lower their support load....
Oh, clients DO want access to the scripts, but you have no idea how many times we had to debug a Fantastico-installed script
cartika-andrew 09-04-2006, 12:15 AM Oh, clients DO want access to the scripts, but you have no idea how many times we had to debug a Fantastico-installed script
lol - fair enough - easyapps on hsphere has the same issues (I think its the inherent nature of script installers) - Im not a fan of them - but, you guys are right, there is a demand - I would still rather deal with the manual installs - but, they are taxing on support to do it this way - so, cant win either way :)
ldcdc 09-04-2006, 07:36 AM FIRSTLY, newbie clients THINK that cpanel is the only control panel IN existence.Well chosen name for this cPanel thing. It can easily make newbie believe that it must be simply a technical word for "control panel", so they'll be looking for "cpanel" even though they have no real preference. :)
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