View Full Version : 700 sites in Reseller account??
marciohumpris 08-22-2006, 10:51 AM Dear members,
I have around 700 websites and my own servers. Ive been looging to server management or even fully managed hosting as I dont want to have to worry about managing my box (Windows/IIS/PHP/ASP/ColdFusion/etc) anymore. I use hosting controller panel.
I put a post on manged hosting area and most recommended either I get management time or I go fully managed.
But I thought about reseller hosting. Some told me "Dont put your 700 sites on a reseller account".
But I heard well of hostingatoc.com and they have plans like 300 sites for 50 dollars. They would take care of everything. Should I really not even consider this possibility? Its even strange for me, Id go from spending hundreds of dollars/month for own server to 100 bucks/month.
Thanks,
Marcio
Lubby 08-22-2006, 11:22 AM I'd be very careful hosting 700 sites on a reseller account, infact I wouldn't recommend it.
I mean if you put 700 sites even on a very good shared server for even $100/m the company will try and get you to upgrade or move, because they won't be able to put any other sites on that server to speak of. Meaning $100/m in revenue on a server that is bound to cost them at least $200/m.
I'd suggest a managed server, or hiring outsourced support or at the very minimum a high end VPS account.
Eleven2 Hosting 08-22-2006, 11:30 AM We have some reseller accounts with 1000 plus accounts :) We dont complain to them as long as they are within their space/bandwidth.
CN@WH101 08-22-2006, 12:33 PM If you do decide to go for a reseller account pick your host VERY carefully. Also be sure that they will allow you to host 700 sites. I could create a very serious problem if all of a sudden your host backfires on you. (700 is a lot of angry customers)
Remember that you will also loose root access when switching to a reseller account :)
WebNOS 08-22-2006, 12:36 PM Yeah, hosting as many as sites as you want is usually not a problem with most companies. As rodney said, as long as it does not exceed the allocated quota and bandwidth to you as the reseller, there is no harm to the server's resources. Just if you each one of these sites belongs to a different guy and the server for some reason dies, you are going to have to answer to a lot of angry customers :>
Edit:
If you do decide to go for a reseller account pick your host VERY carefully. Also be sure that they will allow you to host 700 sites. I could create a very serious problem if all of a sudden your host backfires on you. (700 is a lot of angry customers)
Remember that you will also loose root access when switching to a reseller account :)
I swear I didn't copy off you.. lol
billionaire 08-22-2006, 12:50 PM Thats wierd I dont have more then 40clients per server, how did you manage 700?
vx|brian 08-22-2006, 01:45 PM It may actually cause a big load on your server too (probably in Control panels, slow loading)
liquid 08-22-2006, 01:56 PM 700 sites might use alot of the cpu so depending on how your sites are dynamic or just html you may want to go with a fully managed server in that regard aswell
aushosting 08-22-2006, 02:00 PM i think his 700 customers would be mostly parked or pointed domain names.. lol
ldcdc 08-22-2006, 11:29 PM If the reseller account allows it, you can do it and should not be reprimanded by the host for this reason alone. However, leaving all other things aside, I don't think I would feel safe putting that many eggs in a single basket, with so many unknown neighbors (the other resellers) in close vecinity. :)
But I heard well of hostingatoc.com There must be a typo in there. I can't find that host.
i think his 700 customers would be mostly parked or pointed domain names.. lol
I'm not sure how you got that from the original post in this topic. The user stated he has 700 websites.
marciohumpris: I can say, with 100% assurity, you should not place all those web sites on a single reseller account. Lubby said it quite nicely:
I mean if you put 700 sites even on a very good shared server for even $100/m the company will try and get you to upgrade or move, because they won't be able to put any other sites on that server to speak of. Meaning $100/m in revenue on a server that is bound to cost them at least $200/m.
Most reputable providers set a limit with respect to how many domains they will allow on a single server. 700 web sites on a single server, even one with great hardware and an optimized environment, is in the medium to high range even with clustered services (DNS, email, database servers separate).
Don't get me wrong; you'll likely find a provider (or 9000) that will promise you that they can host your 700 web sites for ~ $50 but please do save yourself the time/money and look in to either splitting the web sites over a number of reseller accounts (5-10) or look in to management services for your dedicated server.
Some times you really do have to spend money to save money ;)
Simon
HostTitan 08-23-2006, 11:01 PM Its more dependent upon what these sites have than anything else. If on a good box, 700 flat, static sites shouldn't really matter. Granted there are somethings that might see a slow down but that's really not meaningful if most of these pages are parked and/or the box is well configured. I'd just work with a host whose willing to be accomodating to you. If the price is right, a host shouldn't mind selling the excess capacity. Another option is VPS.
UH-Matt 08-23-2006, 11:11 PM Jeez we wouldnt even put that many sites on one of our dual opteron boxes...
marciohumpris 08-23-2006, 11:29 PM Yeah many are parked, etc. Im gonna stop at 700 but the server thank God is working very well. Maybe split the load with time...
Rohi, do a search in google for plesk +requirements, the first link, at plesks site has hardware requirements. They mention 2000 domains on a dual p4 with 4 Gb.
VPS what would be advantages? I have a bit of fear of going that way.
Aussie Bob 08-24-2006, 12:42 AM . . . VPS what would be advantages?
You get to chose your own OS and CP. You can have custom configurations that wouldn't be possible on a shared server. It's a small dedicated server, where you are allocated X% of CPU and X% of RAM.
drillerboy 08-25-2006, 02:57 PM If you have your own server, you shouldn't have any problems at all.
I know that with my server, I can always add an additional hard drive if I ever need to and it wouldn't cost me too much more. I believe that you can host plenty of sites, like I said, with your own server.
I would reccomend aa managed one, that way you will have tech support. But You moniter your accounts yourself and there should be no problems.
VPS is not good, becouse the server might have 5 or 6 diffrent VPS on the same machine. Why pay for that when you can get your own server for around $100 a month?
Flaunt 08-26-2006, 11:58 AM The bursting room in your server is much better too! I doubt you can continue using up too much server resources and not get gentle hints to pay more or get out
mripguru 08-26-2006, 02:44 PM Why pay for that when you can get your own server for around $100 a month?
Because he's looking for a *managed* solution? :eek2:.
organicsolutions 08-29-2006, 04:19 PM not quite true with all reseller accounts
i know of one reseller in the uk who has 10,000 plus domains on his reseller account
marciohumpris 11-03-2006, 11:37 AM hi, organic. where does he host?
organicsolutions 11-03-2006, 02:31 PM Fasthosts the same place as me
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