i am thinking about moving some sites from one cpanel based re-seller to the other.

if i do a full back and dl it.. can i then go and upload these files FTP to the new machine and still maintain all settings from the old host (e-mail accts/passwords, subdomains, etc) ?

i've never had to do this before to the extent i'm looking at, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

dave

I would suggest uploading them to a backup directory on your new host then they can restore these for you. All they would need to do is copy them to /home then restore the given cpmove file.

I would reccomend contacting your new host as many providers will be willing to transfer over some of your sites for free.

That is true as well :)

I would reccomend contacting your new host as many providers will be willing to transfer over some of your sites for free.

ended up doing just that.

that's b***st*** !! =P

I would reccomend contacting your new host as many providers will be willing to transfer over some of your sites for free.
I don't think many companies will do that for free, to be honest. When you consider the number of new customers many companies gain on a daily basis, offering free migrations for everyone would not be possible.


Simon

it's a buyer's market, man.

all ya gotta do is ask. :)

it's a buyer's market, man.

all ya gotta do is ask. :)


I was gonna say just that! ;)

I don't think many companies will do that for free, to be honest.
Sure, heaps of hosts will transfer new incoming accounts for free. The best and most accruate method is to download and restore the full cpanel backup for that account. Less mistakes that way, as compared to using the cpanel server to server transfer function. Also cpanel's transfer function breaks for big sites over 250MB.

It does take some time, but it's part of the service, being primarily a service oriented industry. Not all new clients want or need to be transfered over from their current host.

some hosts will xfer you for free if the site is over Xmb, but for small sites its easier to do it yourself.

some hosts will xfer you for free if the site is over Xmb, but for small sites its easier to do it yourself.
I wouldn't say it's easier to transfer them yourself, if they're smaller sites. It's much easier for the client if the new host migrates all those domains from the other cpanel server, to their cpanel server. Downloading and restoring full cpanel backups makes this simple. There are the obvious issues with cpanel theme names, but they can be fixed after the transfers are completed. There's usually some small issues to fix, depending on how each cpanel server is configured. You also need to be wary of the incoming username, and make sure that username doesn't already exist on the new server. But other than that, cpanel to cpanel migrations are usually smooth as silk.

Here's an interesting point to consider, so much new business out there are folks shifting hosts, and going from one cpanel host to the other. Cpanel has such huge market share, that it's created options for clients that if they do want to switch hosts, they can keep their sites intact, and not have to move to a new platform. This in itself creates a lot more movement from a client's perspective. So it is imperative that there be a method of migrating those folks, easily and efficiently, between cpanel servers.

moving cPanel sites from one server from one server to another is pretty easy, just do a full backup and restore it in your new host.

most of the providers offers free migration of the sites when you take any package from them.

I have been playing with this types of tranfers a lot and learn that you need to have root access to transfer everything.

If using the backup/restore in cpanel you will not move

email accounts and passwords .
subdomains
database passwords and users.

But when the host do the migration everything works good.

Hans

Sure, heaps of hosts will transfer new incoming accounts for free. The best and most accruate method is to download and restore the full cpanel backup for that account. Less mistakes that way, as compared to using the cpanel server to server transfer function. Also cpanel's transfer function breaks for big sites over 250MB.
By offering it as a free service, knowing that sites will break it's a case of digging hole for themselves and setting off on the wrong foot. I know if I was a reseller I would much prefer to pay someone, a dedicated technician, to migrate my sites so that such as issues as broken sites, badly formed permissions etc are taken care of. Those are common occurences with transfering a reseller account as opposed to a single end user account.
It does take some time, but it's part of the service, being primarily a service oriented industry. Not all new clients want or need to be transfered over from their current host.
I am well aware of that but I don't think for one minute that the post I originally quoted is giving off a fair assessment of the reseller hosting industry.


Simon

I have been playing with this types of tranfers a lot and learn that you need to have root access to transfer everything.

If using the backup/restore in cpanel you will not move

email accounts and passwords .
subdomains
database passwords and users.

But when the host do the migration everything works good.

Hans

those were the 3 things i was most concerned about. i needed to switch servers, change the dns at a strategic time and get everything set up so my family (who's being hosted) would not notice a thing.

it worked out beautifully, i must say :)

By offering it as a free service, knowing that sites will break it's a case of digging hole for themselves and setting off on the wrong foot. I know if I was a reseller I would much prefer to pay someone, a dedicated technician, to migrate my sites so that such as issues as broken sites, badly formed permissions etc are taken care of. Those are common occurences with transfering a reseller account as opposed to a single end user account.
You're implying if the migration service is provided free, that it's of lesser quality than a paid migration service. Sorry, but that's just plain wrong, and very offensive.

I've moved thousands of sites over the years, and each one is done with the utmost care and precision. Migrating a new client onboard is a delicate task, and it needs to be executed in a precise manner. It's not something that is done in a sloppy manner, because it's a free service. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I have been playing with this types of tranfers a lot and learn that you need to have root access to transfer everything.

If using the backup/restore in cpanel you will not move

email accounts and passwords .
subdomains
database passwords and users.

But when the host do the migration everything works good.

Hans
Root access on your server is a must. You then log into the incoming domain's cpanel, and generate the full cpanel backup, and FTP that over to your server. You then restore that backup from there, assign ownership, change IP, and you're done. Depending on the size, it's a fairly quick process.

Maybe Simon was making a general comment, as not all hosts will put the same amount of effort into an account migration. :)

I do free migration if the total data is over 500mb, otherwise i either ask the customer to do it or charge. Most of my customers find this pretty fair

Maybe Simon was making a general comment, as not all hosts will put the same amount of effort into an account migration. :)
It doesn't make sense not to put the effort in, with a new migration. That's the time when your client is still not 100% sure they've made the right move, so you have to ensure that the migration is as smooth and troublefree as possible. If possible, it's best to do migrations with your client on live chat. That way you can not only efficiently migrate their domains over, but you're also building the relationship with the client, and that is crucial.