Hey,

I'm currently using MB v5. I'm not too happy with the order form.

I will be using eNom and DirectAdmin. Which control panel should i use?

I'm not bothered about the ModernAdvertise.

Regards,
Sohan.

P.S: I don't pay for my MB. But I'm willing to buy AWBS owned.

Have you checked out http://www.whmcs.com for consideration?

I had used both MB and AWBS but decided to switch to WHMCS for simplicity and ease of use. Try out the demo, you may grow to like it.

Have you checked out http://www.whmcs.com for consideration?

I had used both MB and AWBS but decided to switch to WHMCS for simplicity and ease of use. Try out the demo, you may grow to like it.

Great software lousy license scheme.

The license has to call home to work or your billing, help desk, order system, shuts down. Found that out today when their server went south and the software took a dive and I could no longer use it until they got their server back on line. Too bad they can't figure out a license scheme that keeps the heart of your business running if they lose their hard disk or their server dies for a few days.

Just happy I found out in my testing phase before I took it live.

Great software lousy license scheme.

The license has to call home to work or your billing, help desk, order system, shuts down. Found that out today when their server went south and the software took a dive and I could no longer use it until they got their server back on line. Too bad they can't figure out a license scheme that keeps the heart of your business running if they lose their hard disk or their server dies for a few days.

Just happy I found out in my testing phase before I took it live.

Hello,

Did you duscuss your concerns with them? maybe they could help.

Hello,

Did you duscuss your concerns with them? maybe they could help.

Yes I did, it is posted in their forums, Matt responded that is the way it has to be and closed the thread. I placed my cancelation and that is that.

Moving on to test other billing systems now.

Hello,

One thing I discovered about WHMCS is that it doesn't support any taxing system.

Well i'm going for AWBS or MB v5.

If you are going to be doing lots domains as a focus, I say this since you said enom and directi..
Then AWBS cannot be beat. The templating system is a little screwy and the support can be hit or miss at times but for domain selling no other software on the market can touch it.

Techark, as was explained to you on the WHMCS forum, WHMCS uses a call home system as does many other billing systems but is also backed up with a local license key system so in the event that your WHMCS billing system cannot contact our server it will continue to function without any problems. You had not uploaded the local license key and thus when our server went offline for a matter of minutes your WHMCS system could not verify the license locally so you were denied access. The thread on the forum you posted was later closed as the local key resolution was explained by a number of other members and myself and thus resolved - it was not deleted/removed or hidden.

Matt

Can you please not talk about WHMCS in my thread. I'm not using cPanel, or that. I need to get some help on choosing over MB or AWBS.

AWBS is like a billing system for dummies. Not saying the people using it are dumb, but it's an all in one package with very limited options. The template thing is just ridiculous. If it weren't for that it would be a pretty good system.

However, there is more flexibility in MB, which is where I'll be staying. It's an advanced configuration but I'd rather have one system that I can spend a good chunk of time on to setup sanf configure and have it set up the way I want.

i guess AWBS would be good for someone that's doing nothing but selling and buying domains. other than that comparing it to mb is like comparing a cadillac to a hyundai

AWBS is like a billing system for dummies. Not saying the people using it are dumb, but it's an all in one package with very limited options. The template thing is just ridiculous. If it weren't for that it would be a pretty good system.

However, there is more flexibility in MB, which is where I'll be staying. It's an advanced configuration but I'd rather have one system that I can spend a good chunk of time on to setup sanf configure and have it set up the way I want.

i guess AWBS would be good for someone that's doing nothing but selling and buying domains. other than that comparing it to mb is like comparing a cadillac to a hyundai
Sounds like you have never used AWBS before, or you used it and didn't know how to make it works !

AWBS is a great billing software for both domains and hosting and any other packages, we have been using it about a year now and it works like a charm and has TONS of features which is too easy to setup from admin panel (much easier from MB). Besides AWBS release an upgrade ver. with a new features and/or fixing any bugs every month.

You cant transfer your license (you might be able to get permission). It was also your fault for buying ti before doing a trial first. AWBS is not hard to integrate. I am not at all affiliated with AWBS and I have only used the trial of it, but i am sick and tired of reading dhcart's uneducated posts on these forums.

Hello,

I agree with MACscr here in saying that AWBS is not hard to integrate, they have a bare theme which is VERY easy integrate. Change a couple of files and update the CSS and your away. Now I say this from a NON programmers point of view and even with someone with my limited HTML knowledge can do it.

AWBS has great features some that where in AWBS while still being a feature request in MB and some that have not even made it into MB yet. Its easy to setup, use and maintain and is a fantastic all round client management system.

And to let you in on something MB lost me in version 5 and we are currently switching to AWBS and we have been using MB for around 3 years now!

AWBS is like a billing system for dummies. Not saying the people using it are dumb, but it's an all in one package with very limited options. The template thing is just ridiculous. If it weren't for that it would be a pretty good system.

However, there is more flexibility in MB, which is where I'll be staying. It's an advanced configuration but I'd rather have one system that I can spend a good chunk of time on to setup sanf configure and have it set up the way I want.

i guess AWBS would be good for someone that's doing nothing but selling and buying domains. other than that comparing it to mb is like comparing a cadillac to a hyundai

Hello,

I am going to use a few simple words to sum up how I feel with regards to your comments and they are "what a load of crap!"

That should say it all but download the trial and then come back and compare it to MB and make sure you trial the AWBS hosting edition.

The bare template doesn't seem to work.

I must still recommend ModernBill. I am a little upset that they released MB5 before it was at all ready but I think it will be the best once they get all the bugs straitened out.

The good thing about MB is that they are allowing you to run V5 and V4 side by side for the moment.

Yeah, only experience we've had has been with MB 4 (haven't tried 5 out yet) and Ubersmith (which we just found out wont work on a Windows based server)

Anyone have any recommendations for a windows based control panel app?

Hello,

I am going to use a few simple words to sum up how I feel with regards to your comments and they are "what a load of crap!"

That should say it all but download the trial and then come back and compare it to MB and make sure you trial the AWBS hosting edition.

Why would I download a trial when I purchased a license before making my decision?

There's a place in the market for both of them. I just happen to prefer the one with felxibility and depth. ModernBill is a thousand times what AWBS is. You can't compare the two because they aren't even in the same class.

It won't surprise me if AWBS grows into something after a few years. but it's not there now and won't be for quite some time.

Why would I download a trial when I purchased a license before making my decision?

There's a place in the market for both of them. I just happen to prefer the one with felxibility and depth. ModernBill is a thousand times what AWBS is. You can't compare the two because they aren't even in the same class.

It won't surprise me if AWBS grows into something after a few years. but it's not there now and won't be for quite some time.

Hello,

Your giving empty opinions, how do you work out that they are in a different class? AWBS has the same features and range of modules + MORE than what MB does.

yeah I can see you've REALLY worked your MB.

http://www.powaspark.net/billing/
http://www.hostcentra.co.uk/billing/order/orderwiz.php

Nice!

If you honestly think AWBS has more options than modernbill there's not much sense in even discussing it with you.

Hello,

Your giving empty opinions, how do you work out that they are in a different class? AWBS has the same features and range of modules + MORE than what MB does.
I'd second that for sure !
AWBS is a great piece of billing software which have (almost) the same features of MB and more with easy admin panel.

yeah I can see you've REALLY worked your MB.

http://www.powaspark.net/billing/
http://www.hostcentra.co.uk/billing/order/orderwiz.php

Nice!

If you honestly think AWBS has more options than modernbill there's not much sense in even discussing it with you.

Hello,

What so because our MBs are not designed with our site means we have no experience? powaspark.net is a parked domain on HostCentra and HostCentra is undergoing a redesign that is why MB has not been tweaked.

In addition our main billing system, our new billing system is on a different URL.

As for MB if you had read my previous reply I have been using for three years almost around since the first version so I have PLENTY experience with MB.

Yeah, ok. Go ahead and configure an Ensim server and SRSPlus in awbs and get back to me when you're done.

Yeah, ok. Go ahead and configure an Ensim server and SRSPlus in awbs and get back to me when you're done.
Hello,

In MB a BILLING SCRIPT can't even you do a simple task such as void an invoice, does it support re-activation fees? and in MB can you auto cancel an account (based on a specifc date)?

These have been features long requested in MB since V4 arrived and yet they have still to arive.

Hello,

Oh yeah thats another thing MB doesn't even have a properly formatted invoice and any invoice that needs to be edited needs to have its generated HTML edited! I mean c'mon. Also doesn't support the ability to generate and send PDF invoices.

Hello,

Back to the point I would recommend AWBS over MB but the only reason we stay with MB is that it supports monthly billing protating to the 1st of each month AWBS doesn't.

I would go with awbs, they have a wonderful backend, and it isnt to difficult to integrate just somewhat time consuming depending on how much you would like to integrate it.

Ok, I'm going with AWBS. Modernbill's client limit is not for me.

We have owned a copy of AWBS and Modernbill for about 4yrs. Until recently, we only used AWBS for domain registration and management however in the past week we moved ALL our billing back to AWBS because of all the MB issues we were having. I have to say, even though we had to hand enter every clients into AWBS, it was well worth the hassle. I'm doing away with MB for once and for all.

We have owned a copy of AWBS and Modernbill for about 4yrs. Until recently, we only used AWBS for domain registration and management however in the past week we moved ALL our billing back to AWBS because of all the MB issues we were having. I have to say, even though we had to hand enter every clients into AWBS, it was well worth the hassle. I'm doing away with MB for once and for all. They had a migration tool lol.

They had a migration tool lol.

They do but, it doesnt work! Have you tried it? Blank page on start. Id rather enter every client by hand and have a sound db then to have to mess with cleaning up everything after a messy import.

Ok, I'm going with AWBS. Modernbill's client limit is not for me.

Have you seen the new license information?

We would like to announce a revision to our v5 licensing options that we believe will address some of the inconsistency in v4 to v5 upgrades, as well as provide the development community with much better options for module development.

These are the proposed new license editions to be available by Q4 this year!

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ModernBill v5 Standard Edition

The "Standard Edition" license includes only our direct partner modules. This license will be offered at a slight discount to our current pricing when it becomes available later this year.


License is seat based: 100,250,500,1k,2.5k,5k,10k,20k active clients
License includes partner modules only: BluePay, eNom, cPanel, Ensim, Plesk, FraudGuardian, PPCFactory, SSLFactory


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ModernBill v5 Professional Edition

The "Professional Edition" license not only includes all of the features of the "Standard Edition", but also any additional modules that MGB or ANY 3RD-PARTY develops over time!


License is seat based: 50,100,250,500,1k,2.5k,5k,10k,20k active clients
License includes ALL current & future modules written by MGB (ModernGigabyte)
License includes the ability to write/run ANY 3rd-party module(s)!


Upgrading from a v4 Leased Lite License? All "v4 Leased Lite" licenses available only from our resellers will be converted to "v5 Professional Edition 50r (recurring)" licenses.

Upgrading from a v4 Leased Unlimited License? All "v4 Leased Unlimited" licenses will be converted to "v5 Professional Edition 1000r (recurring)" licenses. We have discontinued all recurring unlimited licenses in v5.

Upgrading from a v4 Owned # License?: All "v4 Owned # Licenses" will be converted to a "v5 Professional Edition #" seat based license. This excludes the "v4 Owned Unlimited" & the "v4 Developers License" which will receive the "v5 Special Edition" license listed below.

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ModernBill v5 Special Edition

The "Special Edition" license is for all of our loyal v4 clients who purchased or upgraded to a "v4 Owned Unlimited" or a "v4 Developers" license! This license will have no "seat" limitations and will have all of the features of the "Professional Edition" license above!


License allows unlimited seats! (This is not a recurring "lease" license.)
License includes ALL current & future modules written by MGB (ModernGigabyte)
License includes the ability to write/run ANY 3rd-party module(s)!


IMPORTANT: Due to the special nature of this license, it will continue to be NON-TRANSFERABLE.

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ModernBill v5 Enterprise Edition

The "Enterprise Edition" license is custom designed to meet the individual needs of the customer.

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Now that you have absorbed the information above, let me restate a few key points that may be overlooked:


Seats ARE determined by ACTIVE clients only (not ALL clients like before)!
You DO NOT need a developers license to write your own modules (no extra fees needed)!!
You DO NOT need a developers license to run 3rd-party modules (no extra fees needed)!!!
All of this will go into affect in Q4 this year!!!!


Our goal with v5 is to provide you, our clients, with a billing solution that meets your needs ... AND ... to foster a development community to expand the product beyond even our expectations!

We hope you find the information in this post to be a win-win for everyone involved. We look forward to being your billing system of choice!

Enjoy.

Hi,

my current setup is cPanel and I plan on accepting paypal, as well as using 2checkout.com for CC processing. The two billing extensions I had in mind were ModernBill or WHM.autopilot. Modernbill has alot of brand name recognition (only one I had heard of anyways) but WHM.autopilot seems to be pretty good too. I guess what I'm interested in finding out is to hear from ppl who had problems with either or, which wasn't resolved in a statisfied manner.

Will re-post in forum instead of someone's thread, sorry.

Try DirectAdmin, it's so much cheaper. It works just as good as well.

Try the demo for them all. WHMAP charge $1 for the demo, Modernbill give a free demo, and AWBS have a free 2 week demo.