Can any body give me guidance to select the best reseller plan as well as the cheapest with very strong support

I am looking for 1 - 10 gb of space on windows NT with Ms Access plus MS SQL server with unlimited domain hosting, unlimited subdomains

Web admin for clients etc.

Also I am looking for 1 - 10 gb of space on Linux with My SQL with unlimited domain hosting, unlimited subdomains, unlimited pops. Web admin for clients etc.

I hear good things about http://www.exa-bytes.com/, though I have not hosted with them.

Remarkable Hosting (http://remarkablehosting.com/winresell.php) has announced that it is now offering Windows reseller plans using the Ensim Webppliance (http://www.ensim.com/products/webppliance/windows/3_0/index.html). Though they've got a plan on special (which I think won't be for long, as I recall), I'm sure they have (or will soon have) other plans.

If you buy-in to the Virtual Private Server (http://remarkablehosting.com/mystery.php) (VPS) concept as a way of hosting that's better than reselling someone else's individual accounts, yet doesn't require the investment or work of a dedicated server, then Remarkable (http://www.remarkablehosting.com) might be the right place for you.

And, perhaps most importantly, the folks at Remarkable (http://www.remarkablehosting.com) are building a reputation around here for excellent service and support.

Just a suggestion.

Hmmm... seems like Remarkable is missing some important Windows features to me, or they don't list them, such as MS SQL, ColdFusion, etc. Otherwise, their Windows features look almost like a *nix plan with ASP and ODBC added. This is from their page.

NEW Windows Hosting Plan Features:
Web Server: SSI, Logs, FP 2002, CGI, PHP, ASP, Python
Mail Server (Mail Max): Aliases, Responders, Forwards, Spam Filters, POP3, IMAP, Web Mail
FTP Server:* Anonymous FTP Support
Database: MySQL, DSN/ODBC Support
Site Stats: Urchin Dedicated

Also, the $50 special is not scalable to a larger plan.

I called them awhile back to ask some questions. A young guy answered the phone, with a kid screaming in the background, and he sounded like he was munching on something and unconcerned while I tried to ask him some questions. I guess I may have just caught him at a bad time; but it did not leave a good impression with me.

I recommend http://www.exa-bytes.com/

I am very happy with them. They have a fantastic support and practice a fair price.

Look to dreamzsolutions.net, i don't know about it but looks good, maybe i contract it.

See you

you could try adehost.com, they have some interesting plans for resellers.

-sqposter

Is there any reseller plan with SQL server, own name server and control panel with unlimited domains.

I also would have to recommend exa-bytes.com. I've been using them for a while and I'm very pleased with their service and support.

How am I suppose to resell a package like this:

exa-bytes:
1G - web space
5G - bandwidth
80 - domains
$40 - month
$15 per MS SQL database
add 1G - bandwidth = $5 hehe


This sounds funny to me :D.

Compare to dreamzsolutions plan:
1G
7.5G
no restriction for # domains
$25 - month
no restriction for # MS SQL databases

I don't know what kind of support do these 2 companies offer, but the difference in the pricing is huge.
I don't like cheap solutions, but if I don't want to oversell I can make 5 plans - 1G/month each from exa-bytes reseller plan and this will cost me $8 per plan. No thank you.

Yes, is true, is very high price.
About dreamzsolution, i don't know what is the quality, but i sent some mails to him and i has a reply inmediatly, but from other side i read, (i don't remember where) in another post, he has a problem and was down 1 week !!. If anybody know more info about that please post it to analize.

Originally posted by poncho2000
How am I suppose to resell a package like this:

exa-bytes:
1G - web space
5G - bandwidth
80 - domains
$40 - month
$15 per MS SQL database
add 1G - bandwidth = $5 hehe


This sounds funny to me :D.

Compare to dreamzsolutions plan:
1G
7.5G
no restriction for # domains
$25 - month
no restriction for # MS SQL databases

I don't know what kind of support do these 2 companies offer, but the difference in the pricing is huge.
I don't like cheap solutions, but if I don't want to oversell I can make 5 plans - 1G/month each from exa-bytes reseller plan and this will cost me $8 per plan. No thank you.

I saw my named meantions and deciede to post.

No restrictions on MSSQL, that one's new. From what I know of the people in the industry, every professional host has limits on it. reason is simple. COST a fortune to have MSSQL, and the databases can become huge.

in reference to the 80 domains and 5 gigs BW and 1 gig of drive space.

you can design a plan that is 2 gigs of BW, 100 megs of space and sell that atleast 10 times for about $ 10.00, that only slightly overselling. you should reach about 17 plans before you run into overages.

Windows selling is not like unix. where you get 100 sign ups of unix, your getting 12 signups of windows. different animal. As an advisement, offer windows only to suppliment your unix. and the plan pricing should have no relation to the unix pricing.

Adehost has a few host that do just that, they use my windows resellers plan to suppliment there Unix business. Works rather well.

Mike

you should reach about 17 plans before you run into overages.

17 plans X 300MB ~= 5G and you call this slightly overselling;
you offer 2G and give 0.3G - 700% overselling :D

As an advisement, offer windows only to suppliment your unix. and the plan pricing should have no relation to the unix pricing.

I plan to sell ONLY Windows hosting. Are you saying that is not possible to do that? :D
I agree that the prices for WIN hosting should be higher than for UNIX and that unlimited everything sounds stupid.

Regards,
Peter

Originally posted by poncho2000


17 plans X 300MB ~= 5G and you call this slightly overselling;
you offer 2G and give 0.3G - 700% overselling :D



I plan to sell ONLY Windows hosting. Are you saying that is not possible to do that? :D
I agree that the prices for WIN hosting should be higher than for UNIX and that unlimited everything sounds stupid.

Regards,
Peter

When I said the above I was basing it on average client consumpution/usage. But true you are alread overselling. Ask your web host for more details and they should be able to help. Since I run H-sphere I just load balance the domains, and when I need to I just add another server and shut signoffs to any server that has more that 65% of the drives full.

In reference to just windows hosting, I would advise against it. better to be able to have both platforms and offer one with the avability for the other. this happans to be a great way to keep clients for a long time.

If you need a helping hand I can offer you some basic advice on your server set up, win2k can not handle more than 150 active domains safely without some extra tuning efforts ( my servers are configured with Cold Fusion and ASP) , I've peaked at 163 very active domains average per server. I have in the past requested clients to move off one server to be placed on a newer one becuase of there CPU usage, It's very easy to find clients that will consume more than 5% of the cpu daily. So shifting them to low usage servers is a must. I also run with scsi drive's to offload CPU I/O that's important to protect the overall speed of the servers. it will cost you an extra 50 to 100 per month, but the trade off is an extra 10 - 15 clients to a server. Also limit your servers to a total of 65% - 70% CPU usage average durring peak times. this way when a client does an advertising and the servers get slammed you have the breathing room.

Mike

Mike,

Thanks for the help offered, but I'll start as reseller first. I know that linux/unix hosting market is > 70%, but my experience is in windows web development and I don't want to offer something that I'm not good at.

In reference to just windows hosting, I would advise against it. better to be able to have both platforms and offer one with the avability for the other. this happans to be a great way to keep clients for a long time.

In my experience people don't switch OS usually. I always prefer to host my sites with company that offers only windows hosting, that with company offering both, because I don't want my sites to be hosted with somebody offering windows, whose main business is unix (I expect professional support). This is just my opinion :).

I have two questions:
What is your windows users %? Do you manage your linux servers yourself?

Regards,
Peter

As we don't do Windows 2000 Reseller hosting, I will step in here and recommend ADEHost :D

Mike seems to know his stuff very well :)

Originally posted by poncho2000


I have two questions:
What is your windows users %? Do you manage your linux servers yourself?

Regards,
Peter

Acctually, I'll answer these questions in part.

I have hired consultants in the past and still do to solve issues if I don't have the solution within 4 hours, I also prefer to hire some consultants when I need a specific level of performace from the servers. Rather spend the $300 for the guy to give me the absolute best server configs out there than to trial and error myself. Last config I did I learned about the difference in motherboard and the behavior of the chipset when in use, to config a server for cold fusion and MSSQL. Last config we had forced the cold fusion to another server, Why? the mssql with another software and cold fusion caused the cache to start a 500 error, which in general, annoys my clients.

In reference to the win users %, rather not disclose it, but it's safe to say that unix provided is for my clients as an add on rather than a direct product for new users, I'm slightly higher that the market averages so if someone sign's up for just unix it's only 2 types of clients
a) direct refferal from another client
b) client needing extra services

if it's not any of those 2, I automatically call that person and find out why they signed up and if they do not meet with my approval ( if I get the funny feeling ) I don't accept them.

Mike

Originally posted by rochen
As we don't do Windows 2000 Reseller hosting, I will step in here and recommend ADEHost :D

Mike seems to know his stuff very well :)

First of all I would like to thank you for the compliment, :blush: and I think I will be getting an ego the size of Texas soon, today I've been given a review by a client, and he posted it too. I got perfect great score. that's the first review I've ever gotten, I'm so high on life right now.

Also I would like to mention that I to have changed my acceptance of resellers. I'm being more careful now, and have changed the objectives. Please see my changes on my site. You got to be qualified to be welcomed.

Got to get tough because I'm about to invest more money again in more equipment, so I want qualified resellers to fully exploit the system.

Mike

http://adehost.com/?pg=reseller.hosting

No info...

Originally posted by jolly
http://adehost.com/?pg=reseller.hosting

No info...


that's correct Jolly,
I am holding off disclosing public plans for the time being, people will have to come to me with there needs and I will customize the plans.

I investing money again so I am being very careful of what type of resellers I want. and to be truthful, when you are installing and getting more goodies, I really don't want a rookie around asking a ton of questions that are in the manual. they can wait 1 month before I disclose to the p[ublic the pricing again.

Mike

people will have to come to me with there needs and I will customize the plans. Yeah and when then do you just ignore the emails.

Smell of hubris here, Mike!

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Yeah and when then do you just ignore the emails.

Smell of hubris here, Mike!

Real interesting choice of words. care to tell me when you sent an e-mail ? if so I can tell you that all the requested information got a reply. even if the reply's were I need more details please.

Also are you mw@ad....... is the only e-mail that did not go out, would that be you? because that's the only bounceback e-mail I've received in the past 3 weeks otherwise I have replied faithfully to all request.


Mike

when i looking into these posts i found dreamzsolutions.net have good prices fro reseller plan but it seems have bbad service and lot of downtime so any suggesstions