jeremed
08-01-2006, 07:58 AM
What are some CMS's that use tables? Thanks in advance for suggestions.
![]() | View Full Version : Table based CMS? jeremed 08-01-2006, 07:58 AM What are some CMS's that use tables? Thanks in advance for suggestions. jerett 08-01-2006, 11:24 AM You can find many free CMS at: http://opensourceCMS They also provide you with working demos of both the front-end and the admin area. Aradorn 08-01-2006, 01:18 PM Soopportal.org possibly. NyteOwl 08-01-2006, 02:58 PM Most CMS will support tables for tabular data. No modern CMS worth the name for web presentation will use tables for layout by default though I daresay you could likely make them do it if you tried. Fixago 08-01-2006, 04:59 PM I have to ask, why do you need a CMS that's done in tables? And I agree with NyteOwl, you won't find a respectable company or script out there that's done in tables; just like you won't find a good blogging script done in tables. It has to be in CSS. ...I'm just waiting for vBulletin to release their next version, I'm praying that they finally switch to CSS, I don't know what's taking them so long, they should have hopped on that idea a couple years ago. jeremed 08-01-2006, 06:02 PM Without getting into a tables Vs. tabless design thing, I'll just say that I prefer to work with tables. It's what I've used for eight years and I've never had a problem. layer0 08-01-2006, 06:38 PM Without getting into a tables Vs. tabless design thing, I'll just say that I prefer to work with tables. It's what I've used for eight years and I've never had a problem. Start getting into Divs/CSS then. Believe me, after a week or two, you'll never want to go back. The benefits of using CSS over a tables based design, are VERY overwhelimg to say the least. There is so much you can accomplish, and it's so easy to do. It's really just a matter of playing around with attributes here and there and you can make yourself a very nice layout. jeremed 08-01-2006, 08:28 PM I like CSS a lot and employ it in my designs extensively. Just not for layout. I have given CSS-p a very decent try. If it worked consistently across browsers I might be more open to it. But, I don't have the patience to try to make a "standards compliant" design that doesn't actually comply standardly with all the major browsers. For me, CSS-p offers zero advantages over tables. I can develop, test and deploy a small site with a complex design much faster with tables than someone who is using CSS-p. As for the markup itself, tables absolutely can be used responsibly. Much like any tool, it's just a matter of knowing how to use them. Evolver 08-01-2006, 08:46 PM I use Etomite http://www.etomite.org and all the sites I have running use tables with it. This thing is simple to skin, all you do is create your layout and insert tags where you want your content and navigation to appear. dollar 08-01-2006, 08:50 PM I have to ask, why do you need a CMS that's done in tables? And I agree with NyteOwl, you won't find a respectable company or script out there that's done in tables; just like you won't find a good blogging script done in tables. It has to be in CSS. ...I'm just waiting for vBulletin to release their next version, I'm praying that they finally switch to CSS, I don't know what's taking them so long, they should have hopped on that idea a couple years ago. Not to go too far off topic here but it may be of some interest to you (assuming you haven't come across it already): http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146952 Back on topic we go :D Fixago 08-03-2006, 07:43 PM Not to go too far off topic here but it may be of some interest to you (assuming you haven't come across it already): http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146952 Back on topic we go :D*bows down* Ya know, I recently had to do a vBulletin site for someone, and I wanted to do it in CSS so bad; the problem is, when you have to do upgrades, vB overwrites your changes (well, once you revert templates because you are forced to), and unless you feel like going through everything to find the changes, it's such a pointless endeavor. I actually did make a CSS-version of vBulletin though (it's not terribly hard), but then realized that updates would make my life 1000x more difficult. Thanks for pointing that out though!But, I don't have the patience to try to make a "standards compliant" design that doesn't actually comply standardly with all the major browsers.My CSS works on all major browsers *shrug*For me, CSS-p offers zero advantages over tables. I can develop, test and deploy a small site with a complex design much faster with tables than someone who is using CSS-p.Probably because you are so used to using tables though, I can put a very complex design out in less than an hour using nothing but CSS. I swear to you, once you switch, you'll never go back and you'll tell yourself, "Why the hell did I like using tables for layouts?"As for the markup itself, tables absolutely can be used responsibly. Much like any tool, it's just a matter of knowing how to use them.Sure, but that's not how you are supposed to use tables. I can use a sledge hammer to open a walnut, but why wouldn't I just use a nut cracker? NyteOwl 08-03-2006, 08:53 PM Tables also affect how a page is renedered, how fast and how acessible it is to specialty browsers. But, I don't have the patience to try to make a "standards compliant" design that doesn't actually comply standardly with all the major browsers. That may be the crux of the matter. In any case, it's not a matter of the standards conforming to the browsers but vice versa. Basically, all the major browsers follow most of the standards, except IE. ~kev~ 08-03-2006, 10:34 PM MDPro does. The left and right columns are made out of tables. Out of just about all of the CMS's I have tried, MDPRO is the easiest to edit. The themes are out of HTML instead of php, and are really easy to change up. The center blocks and body use HTML and tables. I was rather ticked off by CMS's like dragonfly that used pure php themes. They were hard to edit and a real pain to do anything with, maybe thats the reason why there are not too many themes for dragonfly? Anyway, check out mrdpro at www.maxdev.com cactus 08-07-2006, 04:52 AM I am on jeremed's side and I do all my layout in Tables and agree with him, nothing can beat a table layout, it doesn't matter to me it's not the proper way or Tables was not meant for layout, I have been doing it for years so to me CSS will take second place in my books as far as Layout is concerned though I do know how to code a CSS layout using Absolute, Relative,Static positioning but in my opinion it's useless or not so convenient to me. I do use CSS only for the rest of the codes like embedded/external style sheet, Classes, IDs, link effects, etc, etc. as we all know HTML can't do it, but the big brother is Javascript to compliment HTML and CSS do have some advantages over Javascript. |