Does anybody use the www.yankback.com service to send their emails? It seems like a pretty good concept, and is something I definately wish I had on a few occasions when I clicked the send button and then thought, "Oops!".

It's not expensive, so I'm considering to try it out... but was just wondering if there are any folks here who are using it now. (Or used it previously and could provide a review?)

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Interesting idea, but why not just leave your e-mails x minutes before you send them? :stickout:

MS Exchange has a recall feature that does this.

so does lotus.
and what if the recipents already download the mails ?

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really understand how exactly this works...can someone explain?

I guess it would be on intranet. There is no way to "ask" a server to delete a message :P. You should think an email as perminate, just like dropping a letter in the post box.

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really understand how exactly this works...can someone explain?

You set your e-mail SMTP settings to the Yank Back servers. When you send an e-mail, it goes to Yank Back's servers, and just sits there for the time you specify. If you set 5 minutes, the message will stay on the Yank Bank server for that time until it is actually delivered.

In simplest terms, it just gets put into a holding state so that you have the option to "yank it back" before its actually delivered.

You set your e-mail SMTP settings to the Yank Back servers. When you send an e-mail, it goes to Yank Back's servers, and just sits there for the time you specify. If you set 5 minutes, the message will stay on the Yank Bank server for that time until it is actually delivered.

In simplest terms, it just gets put into a holding state so that you have the option to "yank it back" before its actually delivered.
Hah. Honestly that seems fairly stupid....it's essentially like 'planning to have errors'.

I'm sure you could script this on your MTA locally at the server level, and not have to share all of your emails with an external service... read another point of failure.

Hah. Honestly that seems fairly stupid....it's essentially like 'planning to have errors'.Yeaaaaaaaaah, I don't see much point to it, to be honest. :uhh:

I think aol has this feature (the abilty to unsend email to other aol users) but then again it is aol.

I am not really sure of the point of this other then taking back misguided love notes...but then again some of us should not be drinking.

Yeaaaaaaaaah, I don't see much point to it, to be honest. :uhh:

On a day to day basis I would agree but there have been time when I've sent an email and thought "Prehaps I should of rephrased that" or just not wanted to send it at all. Times like that a recall button would be very handy

But someone already mentioned the obvious. Why not just set your mail service to hold for the specified time. you could even set it in your client and the emails would sit in the outbox, and you could initiate your own send/recieve if it needed to go out.

I don't see much sense in it.

On a day to day basis I would agree but there have been time when I've sent an email and thought "Prehaps I should of rephrased that" or just not wanted to send it at all. Times like that a recall button would be very handy

For those of us who are not good at spelling that would be nice. I know I have sent a few emails thinking "I should have spell checked that" or double checked the email before I sent it off.

I think a better solution is to read, reread, carefully review an email before the send button is clicked. That's what I do and I've have found it to be a very reliable process.

Thunderbird does inline spell checking for you.

For those of us who are not good at spelling that would be nice. I know I have sent a few emails thinking "I should have spell checked that" or double checked the email before I sent it off.

Thunderbird does inline spell checking for you.

I normaly use gmail for the most part but I have been meaning to give Thunderbird a test run...I guess now is better then never.

Webmail? Maybe when I'm out and about but a desktop mail program can beat every webmail application I've used. In addition I use Thunderbird to grab my gmail and still have every mail recieved on gmail stored on google's machines.

It is out of habbit really.

It's rare that I close my browser window so I just have it open in a tab and ready for me. I have already downloaded thunderbird and will give it a whirl.

I dont understand how this system can work

Well because if you have sent an email surely it will have allready gone to that persons inbox pretty quick

It most likely "holds" the e-mail for X minutes and then delivers it if you didn't ask for any changes.

So it's basically just saving it for a while and then sending if you dont want to make any changes?

That would be my guess, however I most certainly do not know for sure :D

hahah, and you have to pay for this service?

...less then $25 a year...

ohh aww...it comes with a 15 day free trial.

You set your e-mail SMTP settings to the Yank Back servers. When you send an e-mail, it goes to Yank Back's servers, and just sits there for the time you specify. If you set 5 minutes, the message will stay on the Yank Bank server for that time until it is actually delivered.

In simplest terms, it just gets put into a holding state so that you have the option to "yank it back" before its actually delivered.

And people pay for a service like that?

And people pay for a service like that?
No doubt a number of people will pay for it, because they've sent mail that they later wished they hadn't -- or they can imagine scenarios in which they'd do that -- and because they don't understand how easy it is with almost any email client software to set up the same thing. Every email client I've looked at has the ability to defer delivery; usually that means that messages are placed in an "outbox" until the user explicitly sends them through to the smtp server, or it's done after a set period of time (for example, when the incoming mail for that account is checked). If you have second thoughts and want to delete or edit, the messages are right there for you.

But face it, plenty of people are clueless about how the software they use works, so to some this probably looks like the perfect solution.

Few problems with this type of service.

1. Some servers will see that your email was relayed and flag it as spam.
2. Emails are not instantanius, when responding to someone or sending out an email for someone you were just on the phone with.
3. I don't think it will work with spf records.

Just use spell check and be human. We all make mistakes, most people understand. Just send another email out saying please disreguard my last email. Clients like to know that your human too.

Few problems with this type of service.

1. Some servers will see that your email was relayed and flag it as spam.

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3. I don't think it will work with spf records.


Neither of these would be a problem, I'm really not sure why you think they would be. Relaying the message means nothing, there are many e-mail providers that do not send the message directly from the server the user connects to.

As for the SPF, you can include other domains to be looked up and you could also add the IPs of this service to your SPF record, so there would be absolutely no problem there.

Neither of these would be a problem, I'm really not sure why you think they would be. Relaying the message means nothing, there are many e-mail providers that do not send the message directly from the server the user connects to.

As for the SPF, you can include other domains to be looked up and you could also add the IPs of this service to your SPF record, so there would be absolutely no problem there.

Reguarless they are doing open relay and this is going to end up getting flagged either by ip or by simple relay flags, alone it shouldn't be enough to bounce or spam folder the email but it's a flag non the less.

When an ISP requires you to relay through them it controlled by spacific ip's only allowing a spacific ip range to relay though the server. I don't see how this service would be able to do this. Even ISP classes get blocked from abusive users and cause flags. Just think about how much faster this would be without an ip range filter. Unless they are using smtp authentication pass-through which in itself is a security issue passing usernames/passwords through an extra link they would have no way to block false emails.

Reguarless they are doing open relay and this is going to end up getting flagged either by ip or by simple relay flags, alone it shouldn't be enough to bounce or spam folder the email but it's a flag non the less.

When an ISP requires you to relay through them it controlled by spacific ip's only allowing a spacific ip range to relay though the server. I don't see how this service would be able to do this. Even ISP classes get blocked from abusive users and cause flags. Just think about how much faster this would be without an ip range filter. Unless they are using smtp authentication pass-through which in itself is a security issue passing usernames/passwords through an extra link they would have no way to block false emails.

We are not talking about an ISP here, that is totally irrelevant. This is an online service which basically allows you to use their SMTP servers to send mail.

Where you get the open relay from I honestly cannot understand, do you really think they had the knowledge to integrate this system yet they missed something as easy as securing the e-mail server? It isn't hard for them to configure the mail server to only accept mail that is authenticated and that is not a security risk. Had you read the site a bit, you would see they require the mail to be authenticated.

You have a hosting company, are you saying that your machines are open relays because you can't do IP filtering? Or are they insecure because you use SMTP Auth?

We are not talking about an ISP here, that is totally irrelevant. This is an online service which basically allows you to use their SMTP servers to send mail.

Where you get the open relay from I honestly cannot understand, do you really think they had the knowledge to integrate this system yet they missed something as easy as securing the e-mail server? It isn't hard for them to configure the mail server to only accept mail that is authenticated and that is not a security risk. Had you read the site a bit, you would see they require the mail to be authenticated.

You have a hosting company, are you saying that your machines are open relays because you can't do IP filtering? Or are they insecure because you use SMTP Auth?

Sorry I didn't look at the site.
http://www.yankback.com/help_Outlook.html
They do require authentication and they are assigning there own username/password. Originally it was made to sound like they were holding mail as a relay and then after 5 minutes they pass it to your normal mail server but they are actually just running a separate smtp server for you. It looks like you would just require an "IN TXT" record change so you don't fail spf record checks.

Some people would rather spend $25 than exercise a few moments of self-restraint. ;)

Some people would rather spend $25 than exercise a few moments of self-restraint. ;)So true, and in relation to far too many things.

Interesting discussion. I have signed up for the trial and so far I like it a lot. I've used it a couple of times when I forgot to send an attachment. It deletes the email and then I can just resend it with the attachment so I look stupid for forgetting. It does use a timer and I have mine set for two minutes which seems like plenty of time to stop it. I can forsee a time when I might send something I'd regret and this seems like an easy way to get it back. I plan to keep it after the trial, so I would recommend it.

I've used it a couple of times when I forgot to send an attachment. It deletes the email and then I can just resend it with the attachment so I look stupid for forgetting.

I just re-read the last post and realized I'd left out the word "don't" so it should have read -- "I've used it a couple of times when I forgot to send an attachment. It deletes the email and then I can just resend it with the attachment so I don't look stupid for forgetting." If this post had been an eMail I could have just recalled it and I wouldn't look as silly as I might now, for having submitted the previous email without proofreading. Maybe I am impetuous.

Interesting discussion. I have signed up for the trial and so far I like it a lot. I've used it a couple of times when I forgot to send an attachment. It deletes the email and then I can just resend it with the attachment so I look stupid for forgetting. It does use a timer and I have mine set for two minutes which seems like plenty of time to stop it. I can forsee a time when I might send something I'd regret and this seems like an easy way to get it back. I plan to keep it after the trial, so I would recommend it.

Call me suspicous, but do you happen to work for this company?

You signed up and made your first post saying this service was good, then you replied to the thread 3 hours later correcting something you wrote, but you have posted nothing else to these forums?

If this post had been an eMail I could have just recalled it and I wouldn't look as silly as I might now, for having submitted the previous email without proofreading.


You could have recalled it? Eh, sorry but no you couldn't. You have the e-mail timer set to 2 minutes, it took you 3 hours to notice the error here. Notice a problem there?

That just doesn't add up for me, your posts seem too much like an advert.

Call me suspicous, but do you happen to work for this company?

No. I don't.

You signed up and made your first post saying this service was good, then you replied to the thread 3 hours later correcting something you wrote, but you have posted nothing else to these forums?

True, this is the first time I've posted in this Forum. I was referred here by Yahoo. I've been using the service for less than a week and wondered what other people might think, so I did a search. When I came across this post. I thought I would add my experience. That's it.

You could have recalled it? Eh, sorry but no you couldn't. You have the e-mail timer set to 2 minutes, it took you 3 hours to notice the error here. Notice a problem there?

I wasn't sure how much time was there between posts. I was curious and came back and when I re-read what I'd written I thought it sounded dumb, so I tried to correct it. You're right that it wouldn't have helped me so many hours later. That's for sure. The idea that if the mistake had been an email I could have recalled it occurred to me as I was posting the correction. I guess I was thinking that had I sent an email and read what I had written immediately, I could have stopped it. Thats the long and the short of it.

That just doesn't add up for me, your posts seem too much like an advert.

I certainly could see how you would think that.

It may sound stupid, but I've subscribed and it's save my a** more than once. Recently, I realized I'd just replied to an email, calling the sender a jerk in so many words, when I meant to forward it and the comments to my business partner. I was glad I had it.