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microsol
06-03-2002, 12:12 PM
Ok, all you colo people out there. Right now I'd suggest you overthink colocating your server(s) with wholesalecolo.com as their reliablity is very bad right now and could hurt your business as it does to ours (50 customers lost within 1 month apart from the refunds we had to issue). Downtime two month ago was about 4 hours (maybe more). Last month downtime was more than 12 hours (7hours on Thursday only). Right now the network is down again since more than 1 hour and no solution in sight. There are too many problems from power failures (techs connecting too many servers to the APC's :eek: or tripping breakers :eek: ) to router/switch problems. Be advised!

raq4less
06-03-2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by microsol
Ok, all you colo people out there. Right now I'd suggest you overthink colocating your server(s) with wholesalecolo.com as their reliablity is very bad right now and could hurt your business as it does to ours (50 customers lost within 1 month apart from the refunds we had to issue). Downtime two month ago was about 4 hours (maybe more). Last month downtime was more than 12 hours (7hours on Thursday only). Right now the network is down again since more than 1 hour and no solution in sight. There are too many problems from power failures (techs connecting too many servers to the APC's :eek: or tripping breakers :eek: ) to router/switch problems. Be advised!

:eek2: WOW! I'm sorry to hear of all these problems your having. Have you spoken with Eric about these and brought these to his attention? How did he respond?

I'm planning to become a customer of Wholesalecolo myself and I've been down to the datacenter, met Eric himself, and have been monitoring various parts of the Wholesalecolo network as I make my decision. I'm not seeing the downtime issues with the network that you mention above. Is it possible that this could be confined to just your server? Maybe a Failing Power Supply in your server? Maybe even a Bad APC unit?

While I would love to hear from Eric here in the forum responding to the above post, I don't think he's the type of person to "Attack Back" in public, like you appear to be doing to him.

Can you provide more details (in the Forum or via PM) to backup the above problems you report?

Thanks in advance....your responses will help me in making my final decisions about becoming a Wholesalecolo customer.

panopticon
06-03-2002, 06:50 PM
I don't think he's the type of person to "Attack Back" in public, like you appear to be doing to him.
microsol simply stated that his server there has been down a lot from power (breaker and apc problems) - going on the assumption that the APC is supplied by wholesalecolo and not by mocrosol, then it is only an attach if microsol is lying - as long as he's telling the truth he is simply reporting. I don't think emoore would have to attach back - just state why microsol experienced all this downtime, if it was a problem at their facility or not and if so , what work they were doing to correct it so it would not affect other customers, etc.

microsol
06-04-2002, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by raq4less

.... I've been down to the datacenter, met Eric himself, and have been monitoring various parts of the Wholesalecolo network as I make my decision. I'm not seeing the downtime issues with the network that you mention above. Is it possible that this could be confined to just your server? Maybe a Failing Power Supply in your server? Maybe even a Bad APC unit?

While I would love to hear from Eric here in the forum responding to the above post, I don't think he's the type of person to "Attack Back" in public, like you appear to be doing to him.

Can you provide more details (in the Forum or via PM) to backup the above problems you report?


1. I am asking myself what are you monitoring and how as you did not "see downtime". :rolleyes:

2. This is not a attack. In fact I have a real good relation (business :D ) with Eric. I am shure that they'll do their best to fix all the problems they've got, but it leaves the fact that THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, at least at the moment!

3. No, I don't provide "you" with details. They (wholesalecolo) know about their problems and I know. That should be enough for you!

raq4less
06-04-2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by microsol
3. No, I don't provide "you" with details. They (wholesalecolo) know about their problems and I know. That should be enough for you!

:uhh: OK, Thanks for the feedback. I guess

Your initial posting seemed like a pretty serious problem with wholesalecolo and/or an attack on Eric. That is why I asked for additional details, hoping you or others would chime in and be specific about the "problems" if they exist .

As you can tell, I'm giving serious consideration to doing business with them and a problem like this would probably stop me from doing so. However, since you Can't or Won't provide any details, I'll take that into consideration as well. :pimp:

Thanks,

thesmallguyshost
06-04-2002, 08:14 PM
I didn't think much about it but was very surprised to see this post...... I've received MANY inquiries in the past 2 days from customers in that data center.. a mixture of customers of wholesale colo, and also resellers through wholesale colo and they have expressed their unhappiness with connection issues. I just thought they could be experiencing hardware problems instead but this users experience gives credit to the issues I've been hearing about downtime.

regier
06-04-2002, 08:30 PM
Hmm,

I'm just curious why people would be contacting you about wholesalecolo problems. Do you do colocation services? It seems odd that a person would go to sign up for a normal webhosting account because they were having troubles with the company they have their server colocated with.

thesmallguyshost
06-04-2002, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by regier
Hmm,

I'm just curious why people would be contacting you about wholesalecolo problems. Do you do colocation services? It seems odd that a person would go to sign up for a normal webhosting account because they were having troubles with the company they have their server colocated with.

Yes I do colo... I don't advertise colo (much.. I've recently posted an ad for colo on WHT) but I more frequently advertise dedicated servers and through referrals from other users they ask the likely question if I colo as well.

regier
06-04-2002, 10:34 PM
Ahh,

That makes sense :)

Marty
06-04-2002, 10:45 PM
I can't speak for rastoma's colo, but if you need a dedicated, I have found his pricing to be good and his support to be excellent.

dside443
06-04-2002, 11:26 PM
Yes, I agree that rastoma's dedicated server service is excellent. I would recommend it to anybody. It's unbelievable how much care he puts in to his dedicated servers service and is still able to provide it at such low rates.

Umpire
06-05-2002, 01:00 AM
Tried finding out more info about his service but could not find it. Can someone either post or PM where to find more info?

thanks
umpire.

Marty
06-05-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Umpire
Tried finding out more info about his service but could not find it. Can someone either post or PM where to find more info?

thanks
umpire.

If you want to find out more, just private message him. He does not have a webpage with all the information as he really makes no effort to advertize his offerings. Just pm him, and he will get you a quote pretty quick.

thesmallguyshost
06-05-2002, 09:26 PM
Apparantly I have offended the owner(s) of wholesalecolo with my TRUTHFUL and FACTUAL comment above. I guess after rereading it it came across as I was making a negative comment about them.... that was NOT my intention. I have heard a LOT of good things about wholesalecolo for quite some time and was surprised to get the inquires from the people I mentioned in my post and the purpose of my post was to say 'hey they really were having the problems they said'.

Anyone running a hosting business has glitches sometimes.. I've had my share of them as well and I have even lost a customer or two over them, but sometimes things are out of our control and the customer just has to do what is best for them. It wasn't a dig at wholesalecolo and I apologize it came out that way.... I was just trying to backup the original posters comment so he would know it wasn't just his machine.... because I know from experience that downtime is bad no matter what but knowing it's not your own hardware/server is not the problem helps you to know what other proper channels you need to take to get the problem resolved.



Anyway, long post for something I feel I didn't need to say but I don't want any unintentional ill feelings over my post.

And thanks guys (everyone above) about your kind words... I don't take praise too well :) but you're support is humbly appreciated.

microsol
06-06-2002, 05:51 AM
Again, I felt I had to inform about these problems. It was not my intention to bash Eric or his business. While other hosting providers don't care about problems we do offer an uptime guarantee to our customers and any downtime hurts very much, not only in our pockets but our companies reputation built in 2 1/2 years. It's very bad to see that our uptime percentage went from 99.95% (from the beginning) to something around 96% only in the last and this month. I know for a fact that Eric and his team is working very hard to remedy the problems they have and I hope they'll be solved soon as we already have more than 1 server colocated with them (on different subnets) and in fact have "some more space to fill :D" for other servers left :) Ok, now leave me alone, I need to pray for BGP4 connections :D

RH4U
10-04-2002, 09:53 AM
Im not getting into any argument or debate over this issue, but just my opinion is that i would personally stay away from them...

I was going to sign up for their service and received so many negative comments about the company it wasnt funny... also the sales person i spoke with response time sucked which turned me off from their service.

EDIT BY RH4U:
I take back my statement that was originally made above, wholesalecolo appears to be under new managment now and the new wholesalecolo was not responsible for the errors that led me to make the above post or the errors that i heard through word of mouth through other users some months back. It appears they are now owned by a more stable/reputable company and i would suggest giving them a try.
EDIT BY RH4U!

ThomasC
10-04-2002, 09:59 AM
RH4U,

Its now run by another company, who are well known and liked in the webhosting industry, would you still not consider looking at us (not going for a sale here, just wondering.)

Thanks RH4U :)

RH4U
10-04-2002, 10:04 AM
Actually i just recently became aware of the fact that it was now owned by yourselfs and i apologize for the above comment, my intentions was not to hurt your current venture, but to warn people that the wholesalecolo my experiences where with was not that great.

I would definately look into it again, would i rush into it, no. But i would definately say that i would take back my above comment now.. would not be fair to hinder the growth of your company do to the fact that the previous owners and staff screwed things up(which may or may not be the case,i only know that the end result to myself sucked).

Good luck with the new company, and just my opinion i could deal with higher prices for stability.

ThomasC
10-04-2002, 10:17 AM
Thanks for your feedback! RH4U :)

AcuNett
12-01-2002, 12:32 PM
Glad to see that a staff member of wholesalecolo is on these forums. Makes me feel more secure :). I am ordering colo space and bandwidth from wholesalecolo.com today, and I'll tell you guys how it goes. By the way, Thomas, I filled out the order form.... when I clicked process, it kept refreshing the page ;).

ThomasC
12-01-2002, 01:06 PM
AcuNett,

Sorry to hear about the problems, thats a strange one :)
I will email you in the next few mins.

Cheers.

SrvOutsource
12-04-2002, 11:52 AM
Actually webhosting.net has taken over only the domain name, and some of the old colocation clients.

Wholesalecolo as a company in whole has been closed for some time now.