I have read about this a couple times on this site..thought I would add my 2 cents :) I had a client that I was with in Los Angeles a week ago...while we were together she checked the availability for her new company name at GoDaddy...which came up available. She realized she didn't have her credit card with her so we agreed she would register it later.

My meeting with her was on June 13th...now I go to register the name and it is taken. Registered on June 13th...coincendence?? GoDaddy shows as the registrar. Not really a huge deal but I am tempted to fire back at GoDaddy. I was sitting looking at the sceen while she checked it..it was only checked with GoDaddy.

Moved to domain forum.

Oh man, that must be upsetting for her. It happened to me with NetworkSolutions. I checked out a name. Soon after, it was taken. However, I randomly checked the site after 3 weeks and it was unregistered. Weird, but I got it afterwards.

What was the domain name? Nobody ever reveals the domain name when they make these claims.

That's because no one wants to have someone else grab it and ransom it to them, if they really love it.

crystalpalacecouture was the name.

That's because no one wants to have someone else grab it and ransom it to them, if they really love it.

Obviously not in this case :P

Sometimes (eg when I accidently let a personal domain expire), they can be picked up in 1-2 months, its like they just get put in a safe keeping vault.

That's because no one wants to have someone else grab it and ransom it to them, if they really love it.

....but they have already lost the name, nobody else can grab it for at least a year....

NN Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Created: 13-Jun-2006
Expires: 13-Jun-2007
Registrar Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Name Server: PARK30.SECURESERVER.NET
Whois Record

Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc.

Sorry..I am kind of a novice with all of this. Domains by Proxy is another company I take it? All I can tell you is the name was checked at GoDaddy on the 13th of June...and coincidentally on the 13th of June it was registered by some(one) else.

....but they have already lost the name, nobody else can grab it for at least a year....

Not if it's being tasted. Then it will be dropped after five days.

However, since it's still registered, this one doesn't appear to be digested more than tasted.

Sorry..I am kind of a novice with all of this. Domains by Proxy is another company I take it? All I can tell you is the name was checked at GoDaddy on the 13th of June...and coincidentally on the 13th of June it was registered by some(one) else.

Domains by Proxy is a privacy screen service for registrants.

I am sure you guys in the business see this sort of thing happen from time to time so it isn't exactly newsworthy probably. Normally, I wouldn't have remembered the exact date I checked a name availabitlity...just so happens it was the first day I flew in on a business trip so it was easy to remember. Since there was exactly no one else in this loop..and since the person that owns the company was with me the entire day and evening at various functions, this has to be GoDaddy or who ever they use to check names grabbing it..no other explanation would make more sense. Is there any thing I could / should do to make a complaint about this...or is that just a waste of time? Even if they do make a practice of doing this..even I would argue that it is at worst unethical..certainly not any more serious.

Is there any thing I could / should do to make a complaint about this...

You can't complain to anyone. Blame nobody but yourself. For 2 things:

1. Searching domain availability at the registrar. You should NEVER EVER do this! If you don't have access to Linux/Unix/*BSD shell and TRUE whois, you must use only reported clean online whois services, like iwhois.com or completewhois.com, for example.

2. Not registering your domain quick enough.

May your luck be better in the future.

DomainsByProxy states Godaddy is one of their affiliate partners. More interesting coincidence; I did a whois look up and found they both live on the same road.

Probably they cooperate through some legal loopholes....all is fair in business and the art of making money.

^ As pointed out by Stan Marsh ultimately its your own mistake for not registering it when it was available. It could have be registered by anyone of the 6 billion people in the world.

Domains by Proxy is a privacy screen service for registrants.

They're also a GoDaddy company. It's not listed on www.tdnam.com at the moment, but you might check on there from time-to-time.

You might also ask GoDaddy if it's for sale.

I noticed the .net got registered on the 24th June at NameCheap. Just yesterday in fact. Coincidence?

Most of the other tlds are still available. You might advise your client to get one of those as a backup. Or is that you on the .net?

Or is that you on the .net?

I can safely presume this is really OP who registered .net.

Yes..that was me that registered the .net version. I did it just to have it as a backup. How do I check if the .com version is for sale?

And I agree to an extent...it was not prudent to search the name there but it was being done while I was reading something else on my laptop. I realized she searched it on GoDaddy when I heard "Its available!!" :) It may not be illegal what they did..but it sure is closing in on unethical. I do think that the average person who doesn't know about this site, for example, has EVERY expectation that a name they search at one of the registrars is "safe" so to speak. Just because I can get away with stealing from you...doesn't make it right. No one to blame but myself however.

Wow, so basically u shouldn't ever check domain name availability through a doman registrar !?

Wow, so basically u shouldn't ever check domain name availability through a doman registrar !?

I to a certain extent agree. Becuase it seems that when i find a page that is worth regging, somehow someone regs it. But if you find a name that isnt worth anything, then its no big deal. I dunno, its like a conspiracy.

This is the first believable case we've read about GoDaddy registering a searched domain. The several other cases we've seen which claimed that GoDaddy was registering their searches had some flaws in their claims, which made them less believable, but not necessarily untrue.

It is more likely that if your client went as far as the checkout box, then it's also possible it got registered. Are you sure that your client only did a search but didn't go as far as the checkout? If she went as far as the checkout, you might go as far as explaining the situation to GoDaddy and ask if they will transfer the domain to you. I'd be surprised if they ask an extortionate amount, and will probably just ask for the regfee, if in fact they own the domain, and not one of their employees hiding behind their privacy.

We've had many claims that registrars are registering searched domains. I think most all of the large registrars are not doing this as it will alienate their customer base. Just look at Kailor. He went to NameCheap for his next registration. I do believe that there are some unscrupulous registrars out there doing it, and I believe there are even more unscrupulous web-based whois services doing it.

The lesson to be learnt from the story is don't do web-based whois searches and don't search for available domains at registrars (without buying them immediately, if available). You are asking for trouble, even if you don't get any. There are several alternative sources of whois information. 1) A client based solution, 2) Use the Registry's own whois searches, 3) Use iWhois.com's whois search which guarantees they don't use or sell the whois search info (it's pretty cool too.. with both registry and registrar info).

stu2, very good advice. In answer to your question, yes I am postive she never got to the checkout..when I heard her say it was available I stopped what I was doing and went to her machinie..she had just done the search nothing more. I actually wanted to register it at namecheap...she just beat me to it checking the name. I can tell you one thing for sure...I am so certain this had to be more then bad luck there is no possibility of GoDaddy ever getting any business from me...not a huge loss for them for sure but lost business none the less. Thing is..I had read on WHT about someone saying something like this happend and still got burned. Keep in mind, the real pita is that starting a new company, while exciting, is also very stressful. A hell of a lot of sleep is lost deciding on a name...and making sure that name is available in .com....so when you hit on what seems like just the "right" one..and the site is available..it is a big milestone for some. To then see the name yanked out from underneath you is no fun. The moral of the story is...either use the trusted services to check names..or be prepared to register them as you do the search. Shame it is that way..but I doubt anyone will be able to stop the GoDaddy's from doing this to people since it doesn't seem to happen in huge volume.

Even Windows has nslookup. If you see Non-existent domain, that should mean that it's unregistered.

I doubt the .com nameservers are logging all the NX results. I could be wrong, though.

Even Windows has nslookup. If you see Non-existent domain, that should mean that it's unregistered.

No way. It just means that DNS you're using (usually your ISP's) don't have a record of that domain's A record. This does NOT mean domain is unregistered.

You should still approach GD and explain the situation and ask if they will transfer the domain to you. Better you don't talk to 1st level support about this, as they'll probably give you the stock answer. You might try the Abuse Department (who are a bit slow, so be patient) or the Transfer Concierge (who might also not have juristiction but would be involved in any transfer to you). I do understand the frustration of having a domain of your new company name being pulled from under you. You and your client have my sympathies.

It could ALL be a coincidence, however far-fetched that might sound. I've had a coincidence like that happen to me. Of all the billions of people in the world, there is a slim chance somebody also thought up the same name close to when you client searched. I know from personal experience that it's not impossible. But given the length and uniqueness of the domain, I don't buy it. I'd still be surprised if this is GD policy or methodology. Given the size of GD, I'd be more inclined to think it's a rougue employee. Which might be good to ask them about transferring the domain, just in case this might be the case. Also, glitches DO happen, SOMETIMES :( If it's GoDaddy behind the privacy, I'd say your chances are quite good.

The only other explanation would be "loose lips sink ships". If your client, so excited about her new business venture, blabbed to ANYBODY about the name of her new company, they may have taken it upon themselves to register the domain first.

The final thought would be a rougue employee at the company registrar taking it upon themselves to register domains of newly formed companies. Or maybe this is public information? That could open up a whole can of worms.

Given the size of GD, I'd be more inclined to think it's a rougue employee.

Stu, being that rogue employee yourself, would you register these domains at GoDaddy? That would be plain stupid... :)

Well there are many stupid people in jail right now :)

No way. It just means that DNS you're using (usually your ISP's) don't have a record of that domain's A record. This does NOT mean domain is unregistered.

Are you saying that if the local ISP doesn't have the record cached, it won't check with the .com nameserver? Then how do new domains get accessed?

Or are you saying that for the time the local nameserver caches NXes you won't know if someone recently registered the domain. I will go along with that, but the odds that someone just registered the domain are low these days. Most obvious domains are already registered.

Don't forget that NX is not the same as not found. NX is a positive indication that the domain doesn't exist.

sailorFred >> I just said that if the domain has no A record (and this is what is being checked by nslookup) it does NOT mean it's unregistered.

NX is not the same as no A record, though.

Do you happen to know of a domain with no records that is registered?

Here are the results a level down on some of my domains (not quite the same thing):

[fred@fcox ~]$ nslookup goodnag.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: goodnag.com
Address: 72.232.32.122

[fred@fcox ~]$ nslookup gooxdnag.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53

** server can't find gooxdnag.com: NXDOMAIN

[fred@fcox ~]$ nslookup xxx.goodnag.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
*** Can't find xxx.goodnag.com: No answer

This is on a FreeBSD box. I'm at a hotel now, and Wayport is doing something strange with their DNS caches (ignore the server failed errors), but I get similar results from Windows:

$ nslookup goodnag.com
*** Can't find server name for address 64.114.64.1: Server failed
Server: custcache00.wayport.net
Address: 64.134.255.2

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: goodnag.com
Address: 72.232.32.122


Administrator@DEVLAPTOP ~
$ nslookup gooxdnag.com
*** Can't find server name for address 64.114.64.1: Server failed
Server: custcache00.wayport.net
Address: 64.134.255.2

*** custcache00.wayport.net can't find gooxdnag.com: Non-existent domain

Administrator@DEVLAPTOP ~
$ nslookup xxx.goodnag.com
*** Can't find server name for address 64.114.64.1: Server failed
Server: custcache00.wayport.net
Address: 64.134.255.2

Name: xxx.goodnag.com

Unless I'm seriously confused, NXDOMAIN or Non-existent domain means that the DNS system doesn't know about the domain, it is non-existent. No answer means no A record. Those are different.

I suppose it's possible to register a domain without even doing NS records for it, but would any registrar allow that at this point? I couldn't do it with Joker, GoDaddy, or NameCheap.

Anyway, my point is that you can do nslookups when you're checking out domain names without tickling any whois systems. Look for Non-existent domain. At the point you think you've settled on one or a few, then use whois from a "known good" whois source that doesn't use the queries as a base to taste domains from.

I had this happen at NetworkSolutions about 18 months ago, I don't remember the domain. I would typically make a list of 2 or 3 domains that I was interested in and then sleep on it and reg them in the morning. I guess it could be a fluke but I do remember the name not being crazy good or anything.

Kailor: I have read about this a couple times on this site..thought I would add my 2 cents I had a client that I was with in Los Angeles a week ago...while we were together she checked the availability for her new company name at GoDaddy...which came up available. She realized she didn't have her credit card with her so we agreed she would register it later.

My meeting with her was on June 13th...now I go to register the name and it is taken. Registered on June 13th...coincendence?? GoDaddy shows as the registrar. Not really a huge deal but I am tempted to fire back at GoDaddy. I was sitting looking at the sceen while she checked it..it was only checked with GoDaddy.

I have experienced this before with other registrar(s), so yes, I'm sure someone stole the domain.

By the way, at http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=504937 you may find similar issue.

It happened to me with NetworkSolutions. I checked out a name. Soon after, it was taken. However, I randomly checked the site after 3 weeks and it was unregistered. Weird, but I got it afterwards.

Ditto. Same thing happened to me when I checked it for a client.

If the domain name is a registered company with the state and/or a trademarked company name then it can be argued the legality of GoDaddy buying the domain simply to re-sell to you. Not sure the legal wording on this but I had my lawyer go over this with me awhile ago.

I've been using whois.sc to search and monitor domain names. I haven't noticed any problems with names being registered after I searched, but maybe I just haven't noticed given the number of weird names I have searched for. But now I am wondering if they are a safe whois or not. Anyone else use whois.sc?

I've heard they're not good, but can't remember where I saw that. Probably on this forum. The safest whois search (and nicest imho) is iwhois.com. Recommended by Richard of NameCheap who says he knows the owner and guarantees the searches are not used or sold.

I've been using whois.sc to search and monitor domain names. I haven't noticed any problems with names being registered after I searched, but maybe I just haven't noticed given the number of weird names I have searched for. But now I am wondering if they are a safe whois or not. Anyone else use whois.sc?

https://support.domaintools.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=8

There is no possible way what you type in whois.sc or DomainTools.com gets out to anyone. No company that we are aware of spies on their own customers. I know it is easy to come to a conclusion based on the evidence you have, but it is staggering to think about how many domains are in a dead state right now and people are cycling through them. This is called Domain Tasting. (New term in the last year, but starting to get more common now). There are currently about 2 million domains a day now getting tasted. Once someone registers it then it becomes public, then deleted, any of those 102M domains can be registered.

There is only one way "domain tasting" will be addressed or corrected. Individual consumers must complain and make your voices heard, loudly and frequently, to ICANN, about the lack of available domains and this issue of searched domains being grabbed.

Anyone can participate in the ICANN At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) at http://alac.icann.org/

It's your internet. Join the process, speak up and make a difference.

-Tom

I have only used Godaddy once, I prefer to keep my names at network solutions (I know they are expensive )
Connie

https://support.domaintools.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=8

when will this domain taste end? less good name now

You can't complain to anyone. Blame nobody but yourself. For 2 things:

1. Searching domain availability at the registrar. You should NEVER EVER do this! If you don't have access to Linux/Unix/*BSD shell and TRUE whois, you must use only reported clean online whois services, like iwhois.com or completewhois.com, for example.

2. Not registering your domain quick enough.

May your luck be better in the future.


I usually use betterwhois. Are they OK to use, do you know?

I have only used Godaddy once, I prefer to keep my names at network solutions (I know they are expensive )
Connie

any specific reason to do so? just curiosity

They are probably the oldest and quite honestly I have never had a problem

They are probably the oldest and quite honestly I have never had a problem

GoDaddy oldest? Oh my....

First, there was Internic (aka Network Solutions). Then, when it's monopoly was broken, appeared (in more or less chronological order):

- Stargate;
- Joker;
- Dotster.

GoDaddy wasn't between the first 10 (or even 20) to get ICANN accreditation.

GoDaddy oldest? Oh my....

First, there was Internic (aka Network Solutions). Then, when it's monopoly was broken, appeared (in more or less chronological order):

- Stargate;
- Joker;
- Dotster.

GoDaddy wasn't between the first 10 (or even 20) to get ICANN accreditation.

He is referring to Network Solutions NOT Godaddy coz I asked the question regarding Net Sol NOT Godaddy ;)

He is referring to Network Solutions NOT Godaddy coz I asked the question regarding Net Sol NOT Godaddy ;)
It was network solutions I made the comment about not Godaddy. Your hatred of Godaddy and other companies perhaps made you confused.

He is referring to Network Solutions NOT Godaddy coz I asked the question regarding Net Sol NOT Godaddy ;)

It was network solutions I made the comment about not Godaddy. Your hatred of Godaddy and other companies perhaps made you confused.

Sorry, I haven't paid enough attention to the post above yours, westernbeef. I thought if the thread is about GoDaddy, your comment was about them too.

Can you both forgive me? Please.

Thank you.

Excuse me.

I don't hate Godaddy. I use it and Namecheap always.

I've never used Net Sol bcoz of the high price.

And I asked you the question - why you use Net Sol despite the high price? Are there any specific reasons for it?

Atleast, that's the way I read it. Am i wrong?

Sorry, I haven't paid enough attention to the post above yours, westernbeef. I thought if the thread is about GoDaddy, your comment was about them too.

Can you both forgive me? Please.

Thank you.

LOL

Forgive you, no way = :uzi:

LOL

It's ok dude.

Excuse me.

I don't hate Godaddy. I use it and Namecheap always.

I've never used Net Sol bcoz of the high price.

And I asked you the question - why you use Net Sol despite the high price? Are there any specific reasons for it?

Atleast, that's the way I read it. Am i wrong?
Not you darshanjog

I was referring to stanmarsh. He/She seems like an angry person by his post. Just for the record.

Sorry if I offended you darshanjog

Connie

Hey Connie

no probs. its ok

LOL - what a goof up ;)

OK now lets come back to the original query:

Any specific reasons why you Network Solutions despite the high price?

Hey Connie

no probs. its ok

LOL - what a goof up ;)

OK now lets come back to the original query:

Any specific reasons why you Network Solutions despite the high price?
No harm done, they are one of the first, they are a solid company. The price is small compared to what I generate in revenue from them.

connie

Reopening a somewhat old thread just for some ranting…

<mode=rant>

Network Solutions (NS)
--------------------------
I used it once. That was the only time... and the last one.
First I had to bid on an expired domain, a domain not even a medieval twisted wizard would’ve thought of. A DN similar to something like adc12hyjerfw.com
Come on! Who would ever be interested by such domain? That was 3 years ago and good LLLL.com DN’s were still available. Yet, according to NS, other people were interested by that domain... and the bidding began! Believe it or not, the bidding started at around $25 and ended at $155! That weird DN meant a lot to me at that time and I was determined to register it for the upcoming 99 years... at least!
I’ve always remained suspicious about the integrity and honesty of NS. But the sherry on the cake, I got it 60 days later, when I wanted to move this domain to another registrar, GoDaddy! NS refused to transfer it and asked me to write a letter (on paper not an email) explaining the reasons why I would transfer it! I sent it to the CEO instead, and it was a lawyer’s letter instead! NS accepted finally to transfer the domain, but asked for a $60 amount for whatever fees. I was so pissed off I just let the DN expire there. It cost me $155 to acquire it and $185 for the lawyer. A year later, I acquired it for reg. fees when it expired and was deleted.

GoDaddy (GD)
--------------------------
I have a unique family name. And when I say unique, I don’t mean unique in my neighborhood, province or country. I mean unique worldwide. No one, exception made for my very young daughters at the time – had this name, and no one would have thought of registering a .com, a .org and a .net of that name. It is not a trademark, not a dictionary word, not a cultural word, no meaning attached to it, no nothing… and a name longer than The Canadian Pacific railway road!
I checked for it availability on GD’s website one evening, late at night. It was of course available in ALL TLD’s. I was too lazy to go upstairs and bring one of my credit cards, so I waited till the next morning. And guess what! It was already registered! The .com / .org / .net were all registered to an obscure company: The Chesterton Holdings (or something like that). And guess what, after few days of research, I found out that it was affiliated to GD!
So, yes! GD does some sniffing on their customers’ searches, something we call elegantly “Domain tasting”.

And what puzzled me the most, is that a month later (or so), these domains were available! I'm surprized GD didn't email me for a "ransom" to release these domains. SOB!

That was the end of GD for me. I left 3 domains with them, just to have an account there in case I need to do some buying/transfering/pushing of domains, but I moved hundreds of other domains elsewhere (mostly at NameCheap). And I built my own secure PHP Whois tool.

</mode=rant>

I have had querried domain names at Network Solution & GoDaddy, only to find several days later they had been registered. I can't remember what Network Solutions showed in Whois as this was back in 2002, but GoDaddy was last year and Whois info shows DomainProxy (or something like that) for each of the names I querried. Also, a year later, they're still parked at GoDaddy. No one's using them. Just my 2cents

crystalpalacecouture was the name.

fat chance godaddy came to that name on their own :|

I guess it's cus some bigger company would buy the domain from them for more money..

it's business after all.. a very nasty one though =\

DomainsByProxy states Godaddy is one of their affiliate partners. More interesting coincidence; I did a whois look up and found they both live on the same road.

Probably they cooperate through some legal loopholes....all is fair in business and the art of making money.

^ As pointed out by Stan Marsh ultimately its your own mistake for not registering it when it was available. It could have be registered by anyone of the 6 billion people in the world.
Does DomainsbyProxy have other partners other than godaddy?

In a way they're only shooting themselves in the foot because a large portion of people don't even know how to acquire a domain that's taken, assuming they're even willing to pay the "ransom."

(You'd be surprised how clueless most people are; my co-worker wanted to register the sports team he coaches. So instead of doing a whois search, he enters the domain he wants into the address bar, winds up at a page full of ads and affiliate links that says the domain is for sale, please contact BuyDomains. He happily announced that the domain he wanted was available.)

Someone said it's ultimately your own mistake because anyone could register the domain, while that's certainly true, you ought to be able to expects your domain registrar not to use your searches against you. They do have something that the 6 billion others in the world don't have: access to your searches. I say it's dirty pool!

while that's certainly true, you ought to be able to expects your domain registrar not to use your searches against you.

And you ought to expect the registrar to use the info as they see fit because it's
their data from their systems you're using to check.

You can't complain to anyone. Blame nobody but yourself. For 2 things:

1. Searching domain availability at the registrar. You should NEVER EVER do this! If you don't have access to Linux/Unix/*BSD shell and TRUE whois, you must use only reported clean online whois services, like iwhois.com or completewhois.com, for example.

2. Not registering your domain quick enough.

May your luck be better in the future.
So basically you are confirming that if one does search for avaialble domain names on the registrar webpage, the registrar may pick it up early? But what advantage such practise would bring them? They loose the payment from client or?
I made a more tight experience: wanted to register a free PR 3 domain (!), checkout it at Godaddy, and then... instead of the confirmed message got a note that the domain was not available for the registration. They refunded me the reg fee, but I lost one PR3...

And you ought to expect the registrar to use the info as they see fit because it's
their data from their systems you're using to check.
It might be interesting to see if there is anything in their privacy policy that tells users their searches may be sold or used by another division of the company.

Just because you're using their systems doesn't automatically give them carte blanche on your data when there is an expectation of privacy (which I'd say there is).

I mean, we're talking about them registering domains out from under us, but it could just as easily be leaked that some person running for office checked on the availability of domains related to some unsavory practice or something like theothercandidateisamoron.com. Video stores got into a lot of trouble when they leaked what kind of videos their famous customers were renting.

If you go try on clothes at a store but say you might be back later, it wouldn't be very good business practice for them to then put everything you wanted on hold and make you bid against the store itself because they now know you're interested in the goods.

So basically you are confirming that if one does search for avaialble domain names on the registrar webpage, the registrar may pick it up early? But what advantage such practise would bring them? They loose the payment from client or?

I wondered about this, too. After all, a lot of people would just register their domain a little differently or take the .net or .org, because they don't want to buy it from someone else, or don't even know they can. It seems like the registrar is losing a customer and Godaddy is spending money -- granted, a small amount of money, but they often renew these again and again -- for something they're not even developing.

Then I realized that Godaddy is hoping to make money from the traffic to the best site. In other words, let's say you wanted to register okcomputers.com, and the next day it was taken so you register okcomputers.net or maybe okcomputersinc.com because you kind of have to -- that's the name of your new business.

Then maybe your business takes off and everybody starts putting okcomputers.com into their browser, gets Godaddy's "parking" page, a small percentage clicks on a link and, wham, Godaddy not only got your .net registration, they also get the adsense revenue. Eventually you realize you need the .com, and you buy it from them, so again they win.

Just because you're using their systems doesn't automatically give them carte blanche on your data when there is an expectation of privacy (which I'd say there is).

Indeed. But who's to say they don't have a right without a working "rule" or "law"
drawing the lines on this?

Probably the next best thing is to "vote with your wallet", which can or cannot do
what you hope to achieve. But at least you have a choice and a say how you'll do
business with a registrar.

Until someone in authority gives specific answers how a specific issue is going to
be addressed, providers can and will do as they see fit. If anyone has a problem
with that, that's what courts are for.

As always, transfer away if you don't like what they do.