Which team will win this World Cup Edition ?

Well done to Senegal for scoring first, against France.

Haha, those French loosers (Worldcup team to be more clear and prevent flaming :) ) You should never underestimate your enemy! :D Well done Senegal!!!:agree:

My Vote goes to Germany.

Well my money wasssssssssssss on France :bawling: until today, if this is any hints on what's to come....then I say Japan all the way baby!! But seriously I'm still gonna side with France and my next choice is England now that Beckham is ready to go. You know I should really side with the home team, but the US still doesn't impress me, as long as Keller is in net and not monkey arms Friedel, we should have a solid showing.

GERMANY AND BRAZIL!!!

HEY HEY HEY... what was the game that went on a few mins ago?
which team against which team?? is it over now?? I had to go to school and couldn't turn on the TV

It was France vs. stupid Senagal and France lost 1-0 :angry: :bawling: :mad:

Well done, senegal.

Once we have David Beckham back ... England will rock the world cup,

Vive le Senegal!

What a great opening game :) :beer:

I am back! So friends cannot take the first place because they lost?

My mind says Argentina but my heart says England.

I bet on Senegal winning today...hahaha, won a bit of cash to buy me more coffee to be addicted to. =)

Germany??? lets see in the past year they've lost to england (5-1), ireland (i think it was loss..might have been a draw) and even recently to wales! (1-0)

they will be lucky to finish 2nd in their group (Cameroon will top it).....

none of them will win :)

Italy, they won't win, but I'm goin for 'em :)

Originally posted by YUPAPA
I am back! So friends cannot take the first place because they lost? You mean France? Yes, they still could advance. And maybe dropping that first match will be good for them. Still, I voted Argentina.

But for my fellow Americans who are voting "USA" -- that's simply blind patriotism! Not a chance. On the other hand, the US team is pretty likely to turn in a better showing than they did last time, scoring only one goal in a last-place finish.

England will win the world cup you see, all the "major" teams are tearing at the seams, we also have the most solid, experienced defence in the world cup not to mention a world class keeper! You'll see, england all the way

Regards
Ben

Doesn't Brazil win, like every year?

Haha,
Ireland <-> Cameroun 1:1 Surprise, surprise :)
Denmark <-> Uruguay 2:1

Germany currently winning 2:0 :agree: :agree: :cool:

Edit:
Hehe, Germany now winning 4:0 :D :D :D

Originally posted by sam.moses
Doesn't Brazil win, like every year? Nope. For one thing, there isn't a World Cup every year! :)

But it probably seemed like Brazil always won back when they won three out of four, between 1958 and 1970... so maybe you're remembering that! And they won again in 1994, when the World Cup was held in the US.

But really there's been no domination by any one country in recent years. It was France in 98, Brazil in 94, and Germany, Argentina, and Italy going back before that.

Germany <-> Saudi Arabia 8:0 :eek: :o :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Saudi Arabia was SO bad :stickout

I TOLD YOU GERMANY WOULD WIN!!!
My TEAM: Germany and BraBra!!! :)

i cant wait for brazil to start:)

I want England to win, but i really doubt it ....

France lost against Senagol cuase of there arrogance, i really hope they get knocked out soon...

My BETS are on ITALY .. All the way :D

GERMANY:cool: :smokin: :pimp:

You mean France? Yes, they still could advance. And maybe dropping that first match will be good for them.

I am not saying France will not continue to the next stage, who knows? But stats say "A team that lost a game in the first stage has never gone on to win the world cup"

Also Germany's score again Saudi was the highest, in the world cup, for 20 years. When Russia scored 10 againts Cameroon. (I think)

England all the way hopefully, now golden balls is back, and Sven makes the right choices.

Would be cool if Senegal won it though.

Originally posted by jgriff64


I am not saying France will not continue to the next stage, who knows? But stats say "A team that lost a game in the first stage has never gone on to win the world cup"

Also Germany's score again Saudi was the highest, in the world cup, for 20 years. When Russia scored 10 againts Cameroon. (I think)

Argentina lost the first game in Italy 90 against Cameroon, and continued until the finals, Argentina lost by very suspicius penalty in minute 85 the final.

Hungary was the one who scored 10 times in 1982 and was against El Salvador.

Just patetic :(

Jorge, are you looking forward to England beating Argentina? :D

The Brazil vs Turkey match was good to watch, but the referee wasn't great.

Just watched the team play from Brazil and Turkey - then thought about England ....... how do I change my selection? :bawling:

hmm england win? lol yeah right. and the pope ****s in the woods. after their pathetic display, rescued from absolute shame by sol (who is one of the best players they have, the only player ive seen with such presence all over the pitch and the ability to make huge runs), it was clearly a match of sweden A vs sweden B.

england argentina will be fun. but we virtually have to win it. another draw would be a disaster. but not beating sweden shows they simply dont have the class. a team should have the depth to take a few injuries and be able to replace the players with more quality players. dyre was dire indeed. owen was flattened everytime he got near the ball. it was pathetic. the local primary school could have put up more of a defence. it if wasnt for seaman being godly in goal we would have been stuffed.

s prolly going to go to brazil or italy, maybe germany but their team is too young.

if brazil n argintina would take each other? what are the chances for brazil? anyone?

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Jorge, are you looking forward to England beating Argentina? :D


I wont say nothing until the next friday.
But do you know which was the greates goal of the century? :D

Originally posted by NumLock
if brazil n argintina would take each other? what are the chances for brazil? anyone?

The last game argentina won 2-1 to brasil

I noticed that England was an option to win the World Cuo in this poll... why don't you include Sweden and Denmark then? They have at least the same opportunity to win as England... and USA is an option... hehe... come on.

USA winning Portugal 3-1.
Wow do you think they will hang on to that lead?
Well done for now.

Gotta love that USA team!

-t

Great game of USA, horrible game of Figo, Rui Costa and Company.

All I have to say. Well done USA :)

Germany :: Ireland 1:1 :disagree:

GERMANY, DON'T TAKE THE PI$$ WITH ME AND MY MONEY I BET ON YOU! :mad:

GO IRELAND. now IRELAND 5 GERMANY 1 would have been more fun lol.

It seems someone forgot to mention Belgium and Spain as an option ;)

Italy will win the world cup :cool: Let's tune in :stickout

Originally posted by AtomiX
It seems someone forgot to mention Belgium and Spain as an option ;)

Oh yes, and Tunisia, China, Paraguay, Ecuador, etc.. etc.. etc :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Jedito


I wont say nothing until the next friday.
But do you know which was the greates goal of the century? :D

Maradonna, the hand of God? :D

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


Maradonna, the hand of God? :D

Not exactly ;), but if you need help to remember it, please go here : http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/pf/h/gotc/launch.html

Thanks, but I'm sure I can never forget it, I don't need help remembering it :rolleyes: :D

It amazes me that the US he so little intrested in the World Cup (admititly me included)...

From what I've been reading in the news lately we are doing extremly well. And compared to the World's reactions to the world cup the US is very apathetic...

Just an observation. Maybe it's because the US is already saturated with other sports.

Originally posted by Studio64
It amazes me that the US he so little intrested in the World Cup (admititly me included)...

From what I've been reading in the news lately we are doing extremly well. And compared to the World's reactions to the world cup the US is very apathetic...

Just an observation. Maybe it's because the US is already saturated with other sports.

Its understandable, USA finished in the last position in France 98 WC.

Originally posted by Jedito


Its understandable, USA finished in the last position in France 98 WC.

:D :stickout

Originally posted by Jedito


Its understandable, USA finished in the last position in France 98 WC.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :dgrin:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D

What is this coming to?!!??

Anyone thinks France might not make it????


And did you guys read the report today on some supercomputer predicting a Brazilian win????


I am hoping for a Argentina VS Italy final.

well my laptop predicted ireland will win, the server thought it might be italy but then i kicked it and it said ireland as well.

Originally posted by knockingknee
Anyone thinks France might not make it????
Well, they have to beat Denmark. If they do that, as I see it they get through. They'll have Denmark on that win, and what happens between Senegal or Uruguay will only determine whether France is first or second (most likely) in the group.

Lose or draw with Denmark and they are done.

I think Senegal is sure to win against Uru at the rate they are going. I am really impressed with the way they are playing.

Denmark has won against Uru (1/0) so they have got 2 points plus the draw against Senegal (1/1) ..that's another 1 point so they've got 3 points

Senegal, like Denmark has 3 points

France draws with Senegal so they've got 1 point. If they win against the Danes, they've got another 2, which makes 3.

So Denmark and France will have 3 points each...the one with the most number of goals scored gets to go to the next round.

They have to score at least 2 goals to level with Denmark....now now what are the chances of THAT!??!

Originally posted by knockingknee
So Denmark and France will have 3 points each...the one with the most number of goals scored gets to go to the next round.

They have to score at least 2 goals to level with Denmark....now now what are the chances of THAT!??! You're right, I didn't think that through carefully enough... just a win against Denmark isn't enough to be sure of getting through.

They have to beat Denmark, which ties them in points. The tie-breaker then will be goal differential, so if they beat Denmark by one they are still tied... so then it's number of goals, which Denmark would win. If they beat Denmark by two, France is placed ahead of them. And the only way to get by if they win by 1 is if Senegal loses by two, which seems pretty unlikely.

They have to beat Denmark with at least 2 goals...

For win you get 3 points :)

Originally posted by Angel78
For win you get 3 points :) Right. But the end result is the same in this case, except that knockingknee's totals were off by one. If France beats Denmark, both they and Denmark will have four points, not three.

Originally posted by Yahooo
They have to beat Denmark with at least 2 goals...Unless, again, the totally unexpected happens and Uruguay wins big over Senegal... then a one-goal win by France will do it. Since they certainly can't count on that happening, realistically France has to win by two to be sure of going on to the next round.

the red shirts are working their usual treat. 1-0 to england.
shame the ref is so biased our way. id hate to win with such a blatantly dodgy ref.

edit: now who was saying they'd wait until the match then ;) things might just be looking up. ill ask the laptop what it thinks now, england ireland final maybe?

Well done england, revenge at last. lol.

You should here the noise coming from our city centre. It is wicked.

How long can England win on penality kicks? :stickout

Well actually they did play a good game and deserved to win.

Any time a penalty kick is involved it is normally England losing. About time we won one with a penalty.

Originally posted by masood
How long can England win on penality kicks? :stickout

I don't think that is a fair statement - from my estimation of the game England just played better than Argentina and remember Argentina were tipped by many to win the World Cup. The penalty goal was just reward for a game extremely well played and I say that acknowledging that England have played like old women in the past (apologies to any old women on the forum!).

Originally posted by grandad


Ifrom my estimation of the game England just played better than Argentina

:confused: :confused: Seems like we were watching another game.
Are you sure that you was looking Japan 2002 WC?

Sad sad sad


Why didn't the English defenders just get of the way, they are filling up the penalty box too much man!
Surprised they didn't step on each other's toes

Originally posted by Jedito


:confused: :confused: Seems like we were watching another game.
Are you sure that you was looking Japan 2002 WC?


Come on "Jorge" (South American??) even Veron walked off because he couldn't cope with England's play!

Seems like we were watching another game.

Well I am from England and you are from Argentina?? so I guess we are a little biased, but I certanly think England played the better game and well deserved the win. You should hear the celebrations over here, about time. There will be many many parties here tonight.

Best Regards

Yes, I'm from Argentina, probably I'm not too objetive, but I think that in the 2nd half england didn't pass the middle field more than 3-4 times... but, anyway, England plaid a great game, I'm not saying that not, Argentina plaid the worst official match in a long long time.

BTW, althrough I'm sudamerican I think that the game Brasil - Turkey was a robbery.

It would have been nice to see a bit more accross midfield from England in the second half. I think the amount of times they have gone 1 -0 up before half time and then played a draw they just went very defensive and wasnt too bothered about getting the ball up.

Just got to say, revenge does not get much sweeter, than today ..

Remember the 1998 WorldCup, how Argentina booed England off...... memories

Originally posted by Studio64
It amazes me that the US he so little intrested in the World Cup (admititly me included)...
There were nearly 1,000,000 people watching in the US watching the US beat Portugal. New Soccer viewing record for ESPN2.

-t

Originally posted by thewitt
There were nearly 1,000,000 people watching in the US watching the US beat Portugal. New Soccer viewing record for ESPN2. And it was a taped game shown after the result was already known, which probably reduces viewership significantly.

Originally posted by masood
How long can England win on penality kicks? :stickout

Looking at the game, England has some excellent possession and openings, which could have led to more goals easily, in the last 10-15 minutes Argentina played well

I personally feel sorry for the Argentineans cause the country is in crises, and I wanted them to do well, but after last night's “look ahead to the Argentina v.s. England match” and seeing the way the Argentina football team boohooed the England Team of the pitch and then Strip in the coach opposite the England family coach, it fumed :angry: into me ...

Personally nothing against the Argentinean public, the football team should not have behaved in such a way, and I feel that England football team was more than geared up to get sweet revenge...

Who blames them, the atmosphere in the UK is really kicking.. Loving each minute of it..

Originally posted by thewitt

There were nearly 1,000,000 people watching in the US watching the US beat Portugal. New Soccer viewing record for ESPN2.

-t

But, considering that about 13 million watched the season finally of the Osbornes.... Doesn't say that much...

Originally posted by cabalstudios

but after last night's “look ahead to the Argentina v.s. England match” and seeing the way the Argentina football team boohooed the England Team of the pitch and then Strip in the coach opposite the England family coach, it fumed :angry: into me ...

What do you mean with this? sorry, I don't understand

Originally posted by TheWitt

There were nearly 1,000,000 people watching in the US watching the US beat Portugal. New Soccer viewing record for ESPN2. Originally posted by Studio64

But, considering that about 13 million watched the season finally of the Osbornes.... Doesn't say that much... Well, it says that more Americans watched than ever before, but it certainly doesn't say that soccer is our new favorite sport -- the way the Osbornes are our new favorite family.

To put it further in perspective, I just heard on NPR that the expected TV audience for China's upcoming match against Brazil is 400 million; 100 million watched them play Costa Rica.

England didn't deserve to win against argentina yesterday. The spot kick was a result of owen diving. The ref was pierluigi collina, so it was hardly suprising. And watching their sweden game, they didn't deserve to go to the next stage as well.

Originally posted by priyadi
England didn't deserve to win against argentina yesterday. The spot kick was a result of owen diving. The ref was pierluigi collina, so it was hardly suprising. And watching their sweden game, they didn't deserve to go to the next stage as well.

England didn't pass to the next stage yet.
They have to play with Nigeria and Argentina with Sweden.
If Argentina wins to the game and England lost it and do not score in the game or lost for more than 1 goal of difference, England is out.

Originally posted by priyadi
England didn't deserve to win against argentina yesterday. The spot kick was a result of owen diving. The ref was pierluigi collina, so it was hardly suprising. And watching their sweden game, they didn't deserve to go to the next stage as well.

I don't want a big argument to arise over a trivial matter like a football match, but my opinion is that the penalty was justified, the Argentinian player took his legs from under him.

England could have won by more - Sheringham and Owen were both unlucky not to score.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


I don't want a big argument to arise over a trivial matter like a football match, but my opinion is that the penalty was justified, the Argentinian player took his legs from under him.

England could have won by more - Sheringham and Owen were both unlucky not to score.

I think that Pochetino moved his leg before touch Owen, but Owen jumped over it.
Anyway, I saw it near 10 times in slow motion and I'm not sure yet, so I guess that nobody can argue with Colina.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt

England could have won by more - Sheringham and Owen were both unlucky not to score.

Unlucky?
I think they wouldn't have scored if given the whole day!

The Argentinian goal keeper is really really good.
He saved many good ones.

whereas seaman only stopped one good shot. so on the good shots basis we were ahead. but anyways come on ireland ;)
oh and the argentinian goalkeeper? is he actually considered good, cos the bbc who are supposed to be impartial said people had doubts about him and that he was a bit dodgy. just wondering, anyone got an unbiased view on that?

Originally posted by priyadi
England didn't deserve to win against argentina yesterday. The spot kick was a result of owen diving. The ref was pierluigi collina, so it was hardly suprising. And watching their sweden game, they didn't deserve to go to the next stage as well.

Unbelieveable......for one, Collina is one of the worlds best referees and I think he handled such a difficult game very well.

England had far more chances to score and were very unlucky not to score 2 or even 3. England also defended superbly and sticked to Sven's game plan.

After the behaviour of the Argentine players after the game in St Etienne 4 years ago I have to say that yesterday was an absolutely fantastic day for English football. Its just a shame Germany arent in our group too!

I look forward to the next round.........

Originally posted by SuperDon


Unbelieveable......for one, Collina is one of the worlds best referees and I think he handled such a difficult game very well.
But is human, and he can do mistakes.
I didn't liked how everytime that Argentina attacked was a foul from the attacker, but when England attacked the foulwas from the Argentinien defender :confused:


England had far more chances to score and were very unlucky not to score 2 or even 3. England also defended superbly and sticked to Sven's game plan.


I think that you're wrong from the stats that I saw the score situations were 15 for each team.


After the behaviour of the Argentine players after the game in St Etienne 4 years ago I have to say that yesterday was an absolutely fantastic day for English football. Its just a shame Germany arent in our group too!

I look forward to the next round.........
Behaviour???????????????
I think that Beckham was expelled in France 98 because he kicked Simeone from the floor.

BTW, I read a lot that the Argentinian who play in La Coruña injured to Beckham, if you take a look at the moment when Beckham was injuried, the Argentinian player knocked Beckham's right foot, and as far as I know the injury was in a finger in his left foot. :rolleyes:
So, do not believe all what the English press say.

Sometimes rivalry between the two teams goes too far. Much as I want England to win, I much prefer seeing a good, clean, entertaining game of football.

i don't like football, but i voted for brazil because one player was having pretty good jumping skills. :D

Oh, i do like a good football debate :)

I watched the game for the third time today and Argentina only really had 1 very good chance, England had at least 4 goalscoring chances.

When I was talking about behaviour I was referring to the period after the game and since. The Argentine national players have bought politics into football (which I understand is a huge problem in Argentine domestic football).

I believe that Veron has stated he hates English people and that the Argentine keeper has said he wants revenge for the Falklands.

The Beckham sending off in 1998 is really irrelevant - that moment has improved the player and his attitude imensley. In his own words he would not be the player he is today if it were not for that incident.

And as for the injury......what exactly are you implying? That he was not injured?? Or that he injured himself? That tackle was a disgrace and I think that Beckham should be congratulated on his professionalism in yesterdays match in the fact that he was not out to seek revenge.

Also did you see Simeone trying to put Beckham off when taking his penalty? Apparently the keeper was also telling Beckham which side to put the ball! :rolleyes: Argentina are a funny bunch.

Anyways.....on with the tournament....and what a great one it has been so far. Its good to see a lot of open football and surprise results.

And, dare I say it, good luck Argentina.

Originally posted by SuperDon
Oh, i do like a good football debate :)

I watched the game for the third time today and Argentina only really had 1 very good chance, England had at least 4 goalscoring chances.

When I was talking about behaviour I was referring to the period after the game and since. The Argentine national players have bought politics into football (which I understand is a huge problem in Argentine domestic football).


NOT TRUE


I believe that Veron has stated he hates English people and that the Argentine keeper has said he wants revenge for the Falklands.

What?? first, Veron never said that he hates english people, do you read "The Mirror" newspaper ?????, second Cavallero (the keeper) never said that either, as I said, do not believe everything of what the english press say.


The Beckham sending off in 1998 is really irrelevant - that moment has improved the player and his attitude imensley. In his own words he would not be the player he is today if it were not for that incident.
Its irrelevant when it comes from english people, but is relevant when it comes from Argentina people? :rolleyes:


And as for the injury......what exactly are you implying? That he was not injured?? Or that he injured himself? That tackle was a disgrace and I think that Beckham should be congratulated on his professionalism in yesterdays match in the fact that he was not out to seek revenge.
I'm saying that Dutscher didn't injured Beckham, and the english press mounted a show about the Argentinian people hate english people, and that's totally untrue. Of course that some people could hate english people, do not happen in england too? I mean, english who hate argentinian?, but the biggest majority of the population in argentina didn't hate english people.


Also did you see Simeone trying to put Beckham off when taking his penalty? Apparently the keeper was also telling Beckham which side to put the ball! :rolleyes: Argentina are a funny bunch.


Ohh well, you're subjective about this, man, did you ever plaid football?

Don't you ever saw a keeper fingering to the shooter where he must kick?



Anyways.....on with the tournament....and what a great one it has been so far. Its good to see a lot of open football and surprise results.

And, dare I say it, good luck Argentina.

I didn't liked the referees in this WC (I'm not saying for England-Argentina) neither the organisation, its a bit leery that some teams play all their games at 8 PM (Like Germany, Brasil, Italy), and some other play all their games at 3:30 PM (like Nigeria, Denmark, etc) , when te temperature raise over 30 celsius (I don't know how much is that in fahrenheit)

Jorge, chill.

Lets have a good tournament.

Originally posted by SuperDon
Jorge, chill.

Lets have a good tournament.

LOL, you're the who said who likes a good argument:D
Let me remind you of the british press surrounding euro 96 regarding the final with germany. They went on a rampage of reminding ppl of world war 2, even the english PM was appauled by it.

Originally posted by rally


LOL, you're the who said who likes a good argument:D
Let me remind you of the british press surrounding euro 96 regarding the final with germany. They went on a rampage of reminding ppl of world war 2, even the english PM was appauled by it.

True. I think that the press is the worst thing that England have, I don't know what's wrong with that guys, why they want to create that atmosphere of hate around a football game?, come on!, its just a game!, and don't even represent the countries, it does represent to the football federations of the countries (which at least in Argentina, its have no relationship with the goverment), and while we all (football supporters) suffer this, the players and the football federations earn tons of money :).
If I'm not wrong the WC winner will get $5,000,000 :stickout

I admit the press in the UK are terrible. In the middle of last week England were the worst team in the world and since Friday we are the best in the world (if you listen to the press).

Having said that, you cannot argue that some of the Argentine players do not like the English. I dont know, or care why, but its 100% true. I personally have seen interviews confirming this.

At the end of the day the game was one if the tournaments best games so far and I really think that it was a fair result. Its about time we beat you guys - I think 36 years is long enough :)

Also I think the winners of the World Cup get quite a bit more than $5million but lets face facts, money has taken over the game and fans of clubs like Walsall, an English 1st division team (whom I am a dedicated supporter) know exactly what that causes. Its a shame and will only end eventually in tears. In fact over here it already has.

This is for all us ENGLISH fans...

Had to post it, really funny :D

Nice......:stickout

Originally posted by SuperDon

Having said that, you cannot argue that some of the Argentine players do not like the English. I dont know, or care why, but its 100% true. I personally have seen interviews confirming this.


Ok, show me 1 interview were an Argentine player said something against England (not from an english newspaper please).
I don't ask 10, show me only 1.

Originally posted by cabalstudios
This is for all us ENGLISH fans...

Had to post it, really funny :D
stupid...

More bad taste of the english press

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/falklands/story/0,11707,657850,00.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,31-2002261145,00.html (click on the draw)

Just patetic.

At last England has something to be proud of :rolleyes:

:D :stickout

I realy hope England get hammered!

:D :D :D

Originally posted by Gadgy
I realy hope England get hammered!

:D :D :D

:stickout :stickout :stickout

I think it is enough of these argentina vs england things :)

Yesterday, croatia beaten italy 2-1 and I've seen no flame wars yet :)

Can Sweden do it ?? I say Sweden - Argentina 1-1...

B E L G I U M

actually i thought that pic was damn funny, and not cos of the team, id think it just as funny if it was england. anyone who can knock up one of beckham with a handbag it would be greatfully recieved.
yes our TABLOID press are a complete waste of space. as for proper newspapers, if you buy a decent selection and compared them you can usually get a decent view. i ike the underdog winning, croatia impressed me, nothing anti italy but its just like when damon hill nearly won in an arrows, you have to respect a guy who drags a crate will all the speed of a flintstones car (and a similar powerplant) to that sorta position. croatia deserved it. the england argentina thing will prolly happen for a long time as it will for france and germany, thats just the tabloids floggin rubbish. while idiots exist people will sell em trash. and i think england did get hammered ;) it was one hell of a celebration.

Haha, those French loosers are on the way back home with 0 goals :laugh:

Originally posted by microsol
Haha, those French loosers are on the way back home with 0 goals :laugh:

Yeah, that was really a shame. They got the best strikers of their respective leagues (England, Italy, and France), put three strikers up front, but yet scored nothing.

Originally posted by microsol
Haha, those French loosers are on the way back home with 0 goals :laugh:

YIPPPPEEEEEEEEEE :stickout :D :stickout :D :stickout :D

Common' England all the way!

Originally posted by cabalstudios


YIPPPPEEEEEEEEEE :stickout :D :stickout :D :stickout :D

Common' England all the way!

I really hope England doesn't advance. I don't want to watch a team that's very fond of camping their entire players (incl. strikers) inside their penalty box.

nicely done ireland. in the face of biased reffing they boys in green stuck 3 past saudi.

Originally posted by richy
nicely done ireland. in the face of biased reffing they boys in green stuck 3 past saudi. Yeah, I was happy to see that. They're my sentimental favorite, really just because I have lots of close Irish friends! Good to see that, without knowing yet what was going to happen with Germany v. Cameroon, they knew they needed to win by 2 to be sure of getting through, and they came up with it.

Speaking of referees, I've never seen a worse job at this level of play than the Germany/Cameroon game.

How many German players are now ineligable for the next game?Is it just Hamann and Ziege?

-t

Ziege, Hamann, Ramelow ineligible, and there are 4 other players with one card away from suspension.

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh


they're out

So saaaaaaaaaaaaad :bawling:

They really should have scored one more.
It's just plain lack of luck.

Argentina would have had a much better cup if they had actualy shot on goal. They only made the keepers save two shots in each game - England and Sweden. Great buildup and ball finese, only to shot over the top or wide because the area was so jammed up with defenders.

It was a strategy that both teams used to frustrate Argentina right out of the tournament.

-t

FORZA ITALIA :beer:

:cool:

Unlucky Argentina.....looks like the end of an era :)

And congratulations to England, yet another display of sheer professionalism.

Can Sweden do it ?? I say Sweden - Argentina 1-1...

:D :D :D

Unbelievable.

Poland plays their best game of the tournament with 6 players on the pitch who did not play in the first two games and kills the US 3-1.

Korea beats Portugal 1-0.

US advances and will play Mexico on Monday.

What an unbelievable Cup this has been!

-t

Too bad a team with negative goalscore can advance...

Originally posted by GAMPort
Too bad a team with negative goalscore can advance...
It's all about how well you do compared to the other teams in your group. Portugal and Poland both had 2 losses, the US only had one loss - therefor goal differential had nothing to do with whether the US advanced or not.

If the US had lost to Poland in the opening game, then tied Korea and ended up by beating Portugal, everyone would be singing their praises. The fact that they Won, Tied and then Lost simply means that people remember the last performance.

I have real mixed feelings over this one - and did going into it - as I think the US has a much better chance of beating Mexico than it would beating Italy. Italy are currently at 5-1 odds to win the cup. Mexico are 21-1.

-t

I was merely pointing out that some of the teams that are third in the other groups are much better than some teamns that advanced from the other groups.

But not a complaint since this is what makes football so great.

Just take a look at Argentina, Frence, Croatia, Portugal etc. :)

Hehe, Germany::Paraguay 1:0 YEEEEEEEESSS! :D Here we go.......

One of the things that always interests me is the groupings themselves.

It's not uncommon for one group to be very strong and another to be very weak, allowing for the round of 16 to have very lopsided matches.

This also regularly means that teams eliminated in the first round - say finishing 3rd in their group - are much better than teams that advance from a weaker group.

Tournament play is always interesting like this - no matter what tournament it is. Short of playing a round robin format from the start - which would mean a two month World Cup event (yeah baby!), there are probably no better ways to winnow the list down fairly.

The second place team in World Cup is often not the second best team in the tournament - depending on whether the best team in the tournament happens to knock out the second place team in the round of 16; however it's rarely the case where the winners did not deserve to win :).

-t

England 3 - 0 Denmark

England for the finals!

Next stop for England... Brazil (if they win, which they should) :cool:

Go England Go!

Please beat to Brazil, pleaaaaaaase!:D

Go Senegal Go!!! :D

:cool:

Go E.E. U.U.! ;)

Brazil (if they win) will definately beat england. fact not fiction. :) :D

Originally posted by NumLock
Brazil (if they win) will definately beat england. fact not fiction. :) :D

Why do you said that?
Brazil lost against Argentina in the last match, and England won.
Go England go! :)

just a feeling,



btw argintina is out :)

I think a/the Brazil vs. England game will boil down to the performance of the keeper - seriously. England also looks too finicky during possession of the ball IMO.

Brazil are up 2 nil at the moment.

Cant wait for friday England V Brazil, im gonna go reserve my seat in the pub now :D :stickout

If England beat Brazil on Friday, I'd say they are 99.9999% in for a chance of winning the World Cup - Which is nice :D

Brazil is not the good team that used to be.
They were helped by the referee in their 2 hardest games (Turkey and Belgium).
Also, do not forget Italy, my new favorite after the Argentina elimination :bawling:

You've got to fancy England after the Denmark game.

Ferdinand and Campbell are so strong at the back I think the Brazilian guys are going to have serious problems scoring against us, and with Owen and Heskey scoring in the last match I think it's time for the floodgates to open.

Prediction...........2-0 to England. ;)

.....and....England to (finally) raise the cup once more.

Experts said there is 60% chance of England emerging victorious over the Samba guys.One of my brother's friend put his lifetime saving on England.
I wish him luck.

KOREA WON!!!!

KOREA WON!!!!
Wooohoooooooo!

Great game - stayed up all night to watch the game and it was well worth it. :D

Who knew Korea would win. I as a Korean can hardly believe it.
I mean.. Korean has won Portugal which was completely unexpected and then they even won Italy.

People are screaming with joy around my apartment.

Wow, South-Korea rules :D

Well, their coach also ;)

Originally posted by RobbertC
Wow, South-Korea rules :D

Well, their coach also ;)

Yea... I dunno what Hiddink did but I hope he continues motivating and coaching the team the exact same way... Korea was a bit sluggish in the first half but there was a spark that connected their plays in the second half - they had the possession edge and the offensive pressure in the second half :)

Go Korea~!

*pssst* klisis - ahn young! :D

Some people are even sobbing and crying here. (with joy of course)

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Originally posted by alpha


*pssst* klisis - ahn young! :D

I read this from yahoo.com
"It was an amazing victory that no one would have expected after Korea missed an early penalty and Vieri opened the scoring, therefore allowing Italy to embrace their "catenaccio" style. "

What the hell is the catenaccio style?


This match is fabulous. Got me damn tensed up.
When ahn scored the equilizer I was damn ecstatic.
Ahn Jung Hwan must be real proud for being the first person to take Asia to the q final. I wonder how he will be treated when he go back to his club in Italy...His teammates will be resentful I think.hahahaha. Reaping salary in the country he threw out of world cup....this is interesting.

And serve Italy right for getting so complacent after their first goal.
I can see from the end of the second half Korean were dominating the game. It is just a matter of time they score a goal.

¾È³ç!

maybe the 'catenaccio' style explains their coach's thought: "We scored one goal within 20minutes of the game - that was fairly easy - let's just ride this out and substitute the team's best offensive striker in ..." ?

lol

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It's gonna be recorded in the history.

goeal at the 88th minute, man, i didn't watch it, but i was using the yahoo matchcast plug-in and i was sobbing when hardly 5 minutes were left. then out of now were "H.S. whatever SCORED" , "korea equalized"

i jumped for joy!

Originally posted by Roy@ENHOST
Vieri opened the scoring, therefore allowing Italy to embrace their "catenaccio" style. "

What the hell is the catenaccio style?It's a defensive system using four markers playing tight man-to-man and one sweeper. So once Italy had the lead they relied on this system and defensive play... unsuccessfully, as it turned out.

American sports fans might think of it as similar to a hockey team getting a lead and then relying on defensive play based on the "trap."

klisis, i wish I had a korean keyboard to give ya at least a simple korean response... but Im not used to type in korean and I can only type simple things hehe :blush:

anyways, to those of you who missed the game, check out some of the articles relating to South Korea vs. Italy at worldcup.com

Well they think it was a conspiracy against Italy but well, who can you blame? =) Italy should have learnt from their Croatia game that a 1-0 lead is not safe to defend. Referee mistakes happen in every game and you can't just say you deserved to win just because you had a goal disallowed and a man sent off.

Belgium had a legitimate goal disallowed and the referee even apologised but I don't see them whining like the Italians did.

Kudos to the Koreans, they had passion and fighting spirit, I'll root for them when they play Spain. =)

Can't wait for the England game to come....I hope they win, *me prays*

brazil will win *me prays too*

then korea will beat spain



those are my predictions, they hardly fail me

At this time, I think Brazil will win the cup, but then I'm secretly going for South Korea...

Looking forward to the England vs. brazil match though :D

The Brazil-England match will be fun to watch (agonizing if you're British). Brazil wins it, me thinks...

The other fun one, at least for Americans, will be the US-Germany match, and I hope the US can pull this one off, too. Hey, miracles happen every once in a while...hehehe...USA! USA! USA!

:D

Yeah, Korea did beat Italy, so why can't USA beat the Germans? It's shaping out to be the World Cup for the underdogs :D

coz, korea had CROWD support hehe and usa son't have much of that.

Just heard that the Korean striker who scored the winning goal against Italy has been sacked by his Italian club BECAUSE he put Italy out of the cup. SHAME!

Just heard that the Korean striker who scored the winning goal against Italy has been sacked by his Italian club BECAUSE he put Italy out of the cup. SHAME!

Damn! They take their soccer seriously in Italy...I'm sure some Korean team'd be happy to give him a big fat contract, though. :D

USA! USA! USA!...ad nauseum...

As a big country in soccer ... I think Italy has to accept DEFEAT in grace ... -sigh-

How could the Perugia's owner sack him and tell the newspaper it is better for him to return to Korea and earn 8 cents/month. Somemore he said this guy can't even afford to buy a sandwitch when he came to Perugia.

I think the winner between Brazil and England will become the world-champion ...

GO GO BRAZIL ... BRAZIL ... BRAZIL ...

Well i think hibernian will win on saturday.

< BRAZIL


im spamming too much aight?

That is crap!!!

The pay in Korea is not that low!!!
Italians can stop whining and get on with it. They blame everyone and everything. They played rough and acted like an Oscar winning actor (Totti diving) and they are still sore about it.

Anyway it is good for Ahn to go back to korea, Those mobs in Italy are hot on their heels for him. One thing Im sure he will not be getting $0.08 a month. An average korean better gets around $80.00 at least. And can he be sued for mentioning the $0.08 thing? I would like to sue him personally for being such a pea brain.

:angry:

Originally posted by swijaya0101
As a big country in soccer ... I think Italy has to accept DEFEAT in grace ... -sigh-

How could the Perugia's owner sack him and tell the newspaper it is better for him to return to Korea and earn 8 cents/month. Somemore he said this guy can't even afford to buy a sandwitch when he came to Perugia.

I think the winner between Brazil and England will become the world-champion ...

GO GO BRAZIL ... BRAZIL ... BRAZIL ...

yes, i fully agree

yes,

even indonesian + singaporean players are paid much more than $80/month.

And I am sure he will get more advertisement after his golden goal ...

Lots of top clubs are eyeing him.
Ahn will be better off in England of Spain than Italy.
I mean Nakata is not blending in well over there and they said that Asian players are bought by the Italians for commercial purposes. The japanese and koreans will buy the clubs' merchandise due to Nakata and Ahn.

But that will not stop me from ordering my fav Italian pizza anyway. ;-) I still love Italian pizzas despite that incident. Yummy

http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/story?id=218235&lang=us (http://)

Now the Italians want to sue FIFA for their team's loss...incredible! To top it off, they're alleging an international conspiracy against the Italian team and people, I presume, to boot. Oh, man, they're onto us... ;)

But that will not stop me from ordering my fav Italian pizza anyway. ;-) I still love Italian pizzas despite that incident. Yummy

hehehe...me neither! :D

USA! USA! USA!...:D

...come on england, come on england!

...come on england, come on england!Let me be the first to say it: England leads 1-0 on a Michael Owen goal!

:bawling:

Let me be the first to say it also: THEY HAVE EQUALIZED!!! 1:1 thank you rivaldo.

And now Rivaldo ties it (on a Beckham miscue)... and I'm turning on the vcr and going to sleep.



Ha! You beat me to it, Numlock! Enjoy the match...

hey, i don't have cable but i make do with yahoo's match cast (philips)

if you guys think im spamming too much, thats coz love this match:


brazil now lead 2:1 :D :D :D :)

unless you don't know yet, brazil is through to the semi-finals.

Germany is through to the semi-finals as well. :D :D :beer:

Oh man.....how I wished USA qualify for the Semi.
Anyway good peformance there, just short of luck that is....
:)

USA vs. Germany was a joke!

all USA players played defence ..
umm .. also .. I can't think of any USA player that didn't get a yellow card :rolleyes:

Anyway, Germany won :D

Germany won because they have the best goalkeeper of the WC.
Kahn save at least 4 goals in the first half.
Ohh, well, no more Argentinien in the WC :(, USA was the last team in the WC with Argentinian players in their squad.

Originally posted by Jedito
Germany won because they have the best goalkeeper of the WC.
Kahn save at least 4 goals in the first half.

...


I fully agree, but on the other hand, US defended their goal by playing all defence, and by crashing into anyone that had a chance to score a goal (i.e.: yellow cards).

edit:

Anyway, I still think that Senegal will win the world cup this year :o

well there should have been at least two penalty kicks for US : hand play by the Frings when he saved the goal from the line, and that pulling by the Ziege ( remember that the penalty for Ireland caused by Hierro's act = same as Ziege's), anyway i didnt think that US will make to 1/8 finals, so they may be happy with this.

really? i didn't see the match, how was the usa defence?

the german goalkeep looks though and wicked

Originally posted by Ahmad


I fully agree, but on the other hand, US defended their goal by playing all defence, and by crashing into anyone that had a chance to score a goal (i.e.: yellow cards).


Actually, Germany played waaay too defensively on the second half. They didn't make a lot of fullhearted attempts of attacks.

Germany's offensive strategy seemed to be to take the ball to the 30 yard line on the wing and then wait for contact before they fell down and tool that Scottish referee for a ride.

I've never seen so many six foot four players knocked on their cans by five foot ten players in my life.

The strategy worked though. Fooled that ref into issuing cautions and given Germany a set piece just outside the penalty area - where they are clearly the most dominant team in the World Cup.

What a joke the officiating has been in this tournament. It's time to add a second man in the middle at this level of play. None of these guys can stay with the play any longer.

The US played probably the best game of their World Cup tournament. Those of you who think they played defense must have watched a different game than I did. They outshot the Germans, and had many more chances to put the ball away.

The uncalled handball and multiple missed pull-down penalties in the box were a refereeing disgrace.

-t

Originally posted by thewitt
Germany's offensive strategy seemed to be to take the ball to the 30 yard line on the wing and then wait for contact before they fell down and tool that Scottish referee for a ride.

I've never seen so many six foot four players knocked on their cans by five foot ten players in my life.

The strategy worked though. Fooled that ref into issuing cautions and given Germany a set piece just outside the penalty area - where they are clearly the most dominant team in the World Cup.

What a joke the officiating has been in this tournament. It's time to add a second man in the middle at this level of play. None of these guys can stay with the play any longer.

The US played probably the best game of their World Cup tournament. Those of you who think they played defense must have watched a different game than I did. They outshot the Germans, and had many more chances to put the ball away.

The uncalled handball and multiple missed pull-down penalties in the box were a refereeing disgrace.

-t


When we live in a time that tennis has electronic line fault verification and cricket has a 3rd umpire can anyone explain why the football referee cannot make use of the replay on the video screen to come to a correct decision?

Originally posted by grandad



When we live in a time that tennis has electronic line fault verification and cricket has a 3rd umpire can anyone explain why the football referee cannot make use of the replay on the video screen to come to a correct decision?

It would make the game sh**e ..... I play for a club. and i would hate to have to wait for replays.

Football is a game, where some days its you luck, other days it isnt, I live with it, so does all my team...

Just enjoy...

Video replays are not used because it would slow the game down.

Good and bad referee decisions are part of the game of football, they add interest.

If video replays and line verification were introduced it would ruin the game.

Following Englands departure from the World Cup, all I can look forward to now is another season of watching Walsall in the First Division :D ......oh how I love those cold January nights on the terrace....

Tonight its going to be fun again. Senegal :D

Brazil with Ronaldinho out from the next game? (red card :rolleyes: ), that would be interesting what they do against Senegal (if they win today that is..)

I think even after Italy and Argentine out of the game, its still full of fun ahead :stickout

and there goes spain too :)

Yes, South-Korea in the 1/2 finals :D :D :D

Everybody in The Netherlands loves Korea now :)

Do you mean you people love Korea because they won or because you guys dislike Spain?

And I still think the person who took the last penalty for spain didnt really put his mind to it cause it seems weak to me.

Originally posted by RobbertC
Yes, South-Korea in the 1/2 finals :D :D :D

Everybody in The Netherlands loves Korea now :)

We love Korea because they won and because of their trainer :)

We don't dislike the Spanish at all.

Originally posted by Roy@ENHOST
Do you mean you people love Korea because they won or because you guys dislike Spain?

And I still think the person who took the last penalty for spain didnt really put his mind to it cause it seems weak to me.

Korea in the top 4 now - say that 10 years ago and people will laugh... Well done at any rate ;)

My money is on Germany... Now, if I can get some money to bet on them with... :D

I never saw a worst robbery than Spain-Korea
Two goals stoled + the Korean goalkeeper did 3 steps before that Joaquin shoot in the last penalty.
Its a shame than all the referee has to benefit Korea in this WC.

1st Portugal, then Italy and now Spain.
:angry: :angry:

Seems like the Final have to be Korea-Brazil :rolleyes:

Dupe, sorry, please mod delete it.

Dupe, sorry, please mod delete it.

I think Korea will take it.

Seems like the Final have to be Korea-Brazil

i said few weeks ago that Senegal will beat Korea in the finals, it was a joke, but almost became reality (Senegal lost today)

korea will hav to fight deadly war with germany to fight brazil in the finals (which is most likely brazil gonna wipe turkey's ass). even so, the koreans will hav to fight brazil in JAPAN, not korea, so they're home crowd support will be much much less. :D

i like korea, and i hope they win, but against germany - they dead ducks.

i loved senegal defender's save on the ball earlier to day against turkey, first time i got to watch the 2002 fifa world cup game in the mall. :D

they should hav deserved to win, they had so much fighting spirit.

It's a shame everyone's overlooking the College World Series! :stickout

take a look @ this :

www.kosarka.net/World_Cup_Tactics.doc

Hehe, Germany :: Korea 1:0 ,
5 minutes left :) :beer: :beer: :beer:

Yesssssss, Germany first finalist!
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :)
My vote was for Germany a month ago!

VORSPRUNG:cool:

Originally posted by rally
VORSPRUNG:cool:

Was auch immer. Nächsten Sonntag gibts einen auf die Brasilien Rübe :laugh: :laugh: :cool:

Germany all the way baby! The goal is ferocious! Brazil is going to put a lot of shots on goal but whatch him stop em!

Brazil




































:D

only one thing tho, no ballak:bawling:

wat ya mean no ballak? what happened?

he got a yellow card in today's match, so he won't be playing in the final:(

oh ziiiiiiiitt.


oh well, right now brazil and turkey are playing, i6th minutes, still scoreless. :rolleyes:

just hope brazil lose this otherwise germany are in deep s***:(

nyahahaahahahahhahahahahahaha....


brazil is gonna win.

RONALDO JUST SCORED A GOAL!!!!!!!!!!! 1:0


nyahahahahahahahaha

It's official. Final Germany::Brazil :D See you on Sunday brazilian loosers :eek: :D

Brazil were lucky to win that. oh well :stickout

Yes Brazil was really lucky. Turkey played VERY well and never gave up after receiving the first (and only) goal. One of the best matches we have seen. :agree: :beer:

Originally posted by microsol
It's official. Final Germany::Brazil :D See you on Sunday brazilian loosers :eek: :D

saddap

LIKE I said on my 5th post on this thread!
Either BraBra or Germany will win!! :)

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52548#post372505

I go with Germany! :stickout:)

Originally posted by microsol
Yes Brazil was really lucky. Turkey played VERY well and never gave up after receiving the first (and only) goal. One of the best matches we have seen. :agree: :beer:

brazil had twice more shots that those made by turkey. they eve outnumbered them in 'shots on goal'. and the turks fouled a lot too.

As much as i'd love germany(vorsprung) to win, the reality sadly looks different:(

never lose hope rally. germany is still a strong team even without ballack. ;)

Well for germany's sake, I hope your right numlock:)

Jedito,

look carefully during Spain and Korea match,

Why did you say that Korea rob Spain?

It's obvious that one of the goal is off-side ... and the other one, the linesman has blew his whistle long before he crossed the ball.

And Spain lost in the penalty shoot-out. Most of Spain players are playing for big clubs in Europe, They should be the one who got the advantages during the penalty shoot-out. They should be able to handle the pressure.

Then what about Luis Figo? He asked the Korean defender to draw so both countries can go to second round as they knew that US was 2 goal behind Poland. And they deserved those 2 red card.

As for Italy, It is very obvious that Totti was doing "DIVING".

I felt that those countries are not happy because they lost against Asia country. I am sure if they lost against US or Poland, they will never say anything.

I think they have to face it whether they like it or not that they have lost their match whether it is with or without referee mistakes.

Originally posted by rally
Well for germany's sake, I hope your right numlock:)

good....



coz im hoping im wrong.:D

Originally posted by swijaya0101
Jedito,

look carefully during Spain and Korea match,

Why did you say that Korea rob Spain?

It's obvious that one of the goal is off-side ... and the other one, the linesman has blew his whistle long before he crossed the ball.

And Spain lost in the penalty shoot-out. Most of Spain players are playing for big clubs in Europe, They should be the one who got the advantages during the penalty shoot-out. They should be able to handle the pressure.

Then what about Luis Figo? He asked the Korean defender to draw so both countries can go to second round as they knew that US was 2 goal behind Poland. And they deserved those 2 red card.

As for Italy, It is very obvious that Totti was doing "DIVING".

I felt that those countries are not happy because they lost against Asia country. I am sure if they lost against US or Poland, they will never say anything.

I think they have to face it whether they like it or not that they have lost their match whether it is with or without referee mistakes.

I've been saying this to all the people that have complained about the so-called 'controversial' matches and those that think that Italy and Spain were 'robbed'...

"It's Fifa's Rules... If you don't like it, get out." - simple as that... :D