How important is bandwidth redundancy in reselling? I realize that most of the great prices are from resellers offering mostly cogent. From what I read here, cogent is not that bad, but I'd think I'd need at least 2 other good bandwidth providers to go with it, such as QWEST and Level3.

I spoke with Matthew at Burst.net the other nite about their new Nocster plans. I was all excited about them until he told me that the Nocster plans were 55% Cogent, and 45% QWEST. To get the better bandwidth you have to go with their regular reseller plans. :mad:

Hi, just to clarify, NOCSTER will be 100MBPS Cogent, and 55MBPS Qwest.

Thanks,

Matthew

Originally posted by chrisb
I spoke with Matthew at Burst.net the other nite about their new Nocster plans. I was all excited about them until he told me that the Nocster plans were 55% Cogent, and 45% QWEST. To get the better bandwidth you have to go with their regular reseller plans. :mad:

Hate to tell ya man, but bandwidth isn't cheap... And you just can't sell premium bandwidth for 300gb at $99/month... It just doesn't work that way :D

ProHacker / anyone: what do you consider a fair price for 300GB monthly transfer with "premium bandwidth".

Prices vary wildly. Any favorites?

Originally posted by BurstCSM
Hi, just to clarify, NOCSTER will be 100MBPS Cogent, and 55MBPS Qwest.

Thanks,

Matthew

I am not attacking Nocster or burst. It is just a question and I am not familiar with network stuff like that.

If cogent went down, I guess Nocster will be pretty much down right because the Qwest isn't half of your bandwidth capacity.

Originally posted by mwatkins
ProHacker / anyone: what do you consider a fair price for 300GB monthly transfer with "premium bandwidth".

Prices vary wildly. Any favorites?


I'm looking around at providers right now, so I can give you an accurate number, anyone else have one ready?


Originally posted by Eiv


I am not attacking Nocster or burst. It is just a question and I am not familiar with network stuff like that.

If cogent went down, I guess Nocster will be pretty much down right because the Qwest isn't half of your bandwidth capacity.

From what I've read, they are working on adding a 3rd backbone...

PH:

The two options I've been looking at include a NAC reseller Site5.com and DataPipe.com which operates their own network.

Since I have other business at Site5 and like the guys there, all things being equal I would be happy to give them more business, however their listed bandwidth prices are fairly expensive and I need to see if Todd is amenable to a deal or not.

Datapipe has filtered to the top of my list as it appears in all respects to be a quality organization, albeit at a much larger scale than Site5, but with benefits like on-site 24 hour support, telephone and email, in addition to what seem to be fair prices for quality bandwidth.

http://www.datapipe.com/colocation.asp

Traceroutes from 6 different locations in N.A. show that their network is grown up alright.

Also since datapipe offers other services including a wide range of Windows services there's an added advantage of having

Affordablecolo and VenturesOnline are both less expensive, but not so much so that it would make a difference with my budget.

Affordablecolo did not response to my request for information nor a PM here, so I didn't bother considering them further.

As a base line I compared a number of vendors for a single 1U and 25, 100 and 300GB monthly transfer.

Here's the 25GB baseline comparison, monthly costs only, there may be other charges involved. Note that there are much bigger differences between them all as it scales up. Some include DNS, some charge for IPs, some provide remote power boot, some charge setup. What turns my crank may not turn yours.

Datapipe - $100
Site5 - $132
Pwebtech - $99
Rackmy - $149.95
VO - $72.5

I did some performance testing against machines hosted at all sites and came to some conclusions.

I have to say that over all the DataPipe combination of pricing and services appears very attractive, at least for my purposes which do not involve selling hosting services, although I may resell some capacity on our machines going forward to my local clients on a very limited basis.

I would be interested in hearing any stories about DataPipe, good or bad. DataPipe appears to be like Pair.com and Site5 (I have accounts at both and dedicated machine at one) - they just deliver and consequently are rarely discussed. I suppose I should add that I would always consider Pair.com however they do not offer co-lo and only offer managed dedicated servers and shared hosting. But the organization quality is superb.

Whatever my decision ends up being, I'll report back once I have some experience with the co-lo partner.

If anyone is interested in a contact name at DataPipe pm me and I'll pass on a sales email address more personal than "sales", or I can post it here if that's within what's permissable. I'm not personally selling anything here, that's for certain.

mw

Originally posted by Eiv


I am not attacking Nocster or burst. It is just a question and I am not familiar with network stuff like that.

If cogent went down, I guess Nocster will be pretty much down right because the Qwest isn't half of your bandwidth capacity.

They just opened shop with the nocster line, how do you know that they are even peaking over 55mbit?!

Originally posted by mwatkins
ProHacker / anyone: what do you consider a fair price for 300GB monthly transfer with "premium bandwidth".

$600

Originally posted by mwatkins
ProHacker / anyone: what do you consider a fair price for 300GB monthly transfer with "premium bandwidth".

Prices vary wildly. Any favorites?

$450 - $600