Hello,
With the recent offers we have received we're pleased to beable to annouce our Grand Opening of the release of our Dedicated Server BLOWOUT. We have received a high demand of sells here at WHT and wanted to make another offer. All servers are located in Dallas,Texas on Yipes, Level3 & Genuity which is the peers off of Yipes and is as well as a backup provider we will also be bringing in UUNET which will make this great Quality Bandwidth and you may take a tour at http://noc4dallas.com/tour/. You will receive MANAGED Solutions alone with your Dedicated Server that you purchase. Managad meaning we will upgrade your kernel or perform any upgrades that needs done to any software and do maintence free of charge upon a timely manner. Below is what you all been waiting for!!!
Order Within The next 7 Days and we will even include cPanel In the cost!!!! Please note this is just preordering!!! If you would like to pre-order your Dedicated Server please go to https://secure.nocservers.net/colo4u/preorder.php and place your order.

CPanel is Included With Cost If you Pre order.

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Dedicated Server Blowout #1
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P4 *1600mhz CPU
1024 MB Ram
450 GIGS of Bandwidth
2x40GIG Hard Drive - 7,200 RPM
Choice of OS (Red Hat 7.2 or FreeBSD)
Choice of Control Panel
Unlimited IP Addresses (Upon Arin's Guidelines)
Managed Solution

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Setup Fee: $175.95 / $175.95 Monthly
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Dedicated Server Blowout #2
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PIII 1200mhz CPU
1024 MB Ram
450 GIGS of Bandwidth
40GIG Hard Drive - 7,200 RPM
Choice of OS (Red Hat 7.2 or FreeBSD)
Choice of Control Panel
Unlimited IP Addresses (Upon Arin's Guidelines)
Managed Solution

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Setup Fee: $149.95 / $149.95 Monthly
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Dedicated Server Blowout #3
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AMD Dual 1700mhz CPU
1024 MB Ram
450 GIGS of Bandwidth
2x40GIG Hard Drive - 7,200 RPM
Choice of OS (Red Hat 7.2 or FreeBSD)
Choice of Control Panel
Unlimited IP Addresses (Upon Arin's Guidelines)
Managed Solution

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Setup Fee: $400 / $250 Monthly
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cPanel Licensing - $55 / Monthly (Internal)
H-Sphere 2.1 - $4.50 / Per License
Plesk 2.5 - $450 / One Time Fee
HostGUi (When Released) - $500 / One Time
Webmin 0.9 / Free

* You may receive a Celeron 1.2 gig if a 1.6 is out of stock just for understanding :).

Very sweet offer... very sweet :)

Hi,
Cool Deal, I have pre ordered the $175.00 month package. So I will get cpanel included in that price.

Great!!!!1

Thank You For The Comments On Our Offer :).

samuelbrr Sure Enough :). Hope You Enjoy Our Service :).

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Interesting Post GamPORT :).

Originally posted by TimPD
Interesting Post GamPORT :).

:D

P3 1.6Ghz??? ;)

Nice offer...

Very good offer!

Good Offer

I know its yipes which is good, how many mbps is it set at (50mbps, gig-e, etc). Also are these towers, racks, etc more details on the hardware please.

Once again nice offer

Joe

Not bad! Time to put another egg...

Very nice offer Tim.. hehe I love to see how roles can change sometimes :) I wish you the best of luck with your venture!

wow!
great deal! i'm impressed! :)

Hello,
The servers are 1U. We have Quality HardWare and no off brand stuff etc. I want to Thank You All for the comments :). Look forward on doing business!

Yeee Haw... someone new is on the BLOCK!! Please... let me know how quick these orders are setup... and how support is...

my only request is to send me a url so i can read your SLA and all the other fine print... the pre-order link is pretty basic... when will the official site be up?

thanx!!

Hello,
Colocation4U will be launched ASAP. We're working on a design and after that everything will be launched. All orders are setup as soon as the servers are received. We have to order them and they're in the building process. We expect them around June 5-6 to be shipped out.

Hi Tim,

nice offer ... congrats. Just wonderring, do you mean P4/1.6Ghz or P3/1.6Ghz... I have not heard about the later nor do I think it exists (if it does, it will cost so much more than a P4/2Ghz).

cheers,
:beer:

Yes, 1.6 does exist. They're actually cheaper then PIII 1.2GIGS.. Kind Of Funny.

Can you tell me where to buy this P3/1.6Ghz? I don't even think there is a m/b that will support such a high clock speed for P3.
I still think you mean P4/1.6Ghz, which is indeed cheaper than P3/1.26Ghz ...

cheers,
:beer:

I too haven't been able to find a P3 1.6Ghz. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me where you are getting them from Tim?

I've seen them on a computer shopper magazine :)

Will there be a remote reboot capability? Or will you have techs on site 24/7?

Of Course We're Here When You Need Us :). It is P4 Sorry. Remote Reboot is coming yes :).

Amazing Deals & Configurations, i will be definately purchasing a server sometime in the future from you!

We look forward on dealing business with you :).

Originally posted by TimPD
Interesting Post GamPORT :).

Bahh..I explained it on ICQ :stickout

Yep You Did.:stickout

this is my first attempt at dedicated so pls excuse me if this seems like a silly question...

I've been reading up on the different Control Panels and CPANEL is my preferred choice... but WebHostManager is something else that would appear as essential.... does your package include WHM?

Is it an unlimited license? I have atleast 10 clients that I would like to put on my server with me?

Thanx

WHM/Cpanel are installed together. They come as a package. And cpanel/WHM is licensed per server and will allow you to host as many domains on that server as the server can handle.

cPanel and WHM have no limit set on the domains you can host. cPanel and WebHost Manager is the exact same product.

Also, To those who have emailed us this offer is still available. Please place your order if you're wanting a server while they last :). If you're buying in bulk please contact me.

Originally posted by TimPD
It is P4 Sorry. Remote Reboot is coming yes :).

You may want to edit your offer, since the price does look much-much better on a P4 :)

Originally posted by Synergy
I've seen them on a computer shopper magazine


Really? I'm surprised. You sure it's not a typo? I won't believe it until I can see who sells this CPU or see which motherboards will support it :)

cheers,
:beer:

It could be a typo. I'm not sure its the Computer Shopper Mag

They're P4 as I said :). Also, We're still taking preorders so get them while they're hot :)

I know its yipes which is good, how many mbps is it set at (50mbps, gig-e, etc).

Any idea on this I asked it earlier just want to see

Joe

If these servers are pre-order when will they be ready to deploy? how soon can a WHM/CPanel server be on-line when oredered? Do you own the DC or co-locate? Thank you.

I'm pretty sure they colocate it at a datacenter in dallars.

Do you have any server management options? if yes what is the fee?

JBIZ - As a competitor which is why you're wanting to that really isn't your concern :).

ccreighton - We colocate in the Dallas,Texas Data Center. We're expecting the servers to arrive June 5-6 if everything goes good..

What exactly server managment options are you talking about? Please give me an example.

Tim i can contact charles and find out if need be, and i can get answer in pretty quickly...

It was a simple question, and to be honest Its simply knowing your network.

It has nothing to do with competition either, I simply wanted to know what kind of connectivity u have. Answering yipes is only one piece of the puzzle...

I think tim he ment that what does it cost for kernal upgrades, reboots, managed hosting,


Joe

Hello,
We have enough MPBS we cover and can always get more as we need. Managed is Kernel upgrades etc. We may also decide to make it RackSpace Managed Very Soon.

So how many Mbps were the lines at?

As I stated we have plenty of Bandwidth to cover.

Very sweet offers :)

All servers are located in Dallas,Texas on Yipes, Level3 & Genuity Quality Bandwidth I would however check your facts. Are you sure you don't only have Yipes. Yipes does peer in with Genuity and Level3, but really you are only connected to Yipes. Correct?

Yipes does use Genuity and Level3 so therefore it would be Quality Bandwidth and still level3 and Genuity bandwidth as it says so it would be quality bandwidth. Also, UUNET will be coming in soon no set day yet.

Originally posted by TimPD
As I stated we have plenty of Bandwidth to cover.

would you answer the extact number of your bandwidth please, i won't order it if it's only 10mbits line share between hundred of people...

Yipes does use Genuity and Level3 so therefore it would be Quality Bandwidth and still level3 and Genuity bandwidth as it says so it would be quality bandwidthWell, that is a little misleading. Isn't it?

That would be like someone saying "Quality bandwidth from Qwest, UUnet, AT&T, Cable and Wireless, Verio" and only having a Cogent line and justifying that by saying "eventually, Cogent peers with them all"

There is a big difference in having Yipes/Genuity/Level3 and having just Yipes.

Hello,
No, it isn't misleadeing. I'm afraid it isn't shared by hundreds of people. As I said we have our own cabinet etc. If you want that kind of information please PM me and I will possibly reveal it. But there is no set limit.

No, it isn't misleadeing. And how is it not?

Originally posted by TimPD
Hello,
No, it isn't misleadeing. I'm afraid it isn't shared by hundreds of people. As I said we have our own cabinet etc. If you want that kind of information please PM me and I will possibly reveal it. But there is no set limit. You don't think a prospective customer should know these things? I understand that some that have asked you the tough questions may in fact never get a server with you. But I understand why they ask them. And, frankly, they're not that tough of questions.
Unless, of course, you want to reveal nothing.

TimPD, you still miss what RackMy is asking. Although Yipes uses (or peer with) Level3/Genuity, it does not mean that you are multihomed with Yipes, Level3, and Genuity, so it will be very misleading to say you have bandwith from Yipes, Level3, and Geneuity where you actually only have Yipes.

I am sorry to comment you on this, but I will make sure to keep pushing you on this (as many would)( if you are not willing to change your statement regarding your bandwith provider. For the last time, you only have Yipes and that's all you should have mentioned.

All the best for you.

cheers,
:beer:

Ok Fine You want know. We currently have 1mpbs of bandwidth that we have purchased and will be getting more as we need it and see that it is being used. We're currently starting out as a Dedicated Provider and wanted to start out low.

Tim, how much bandwith you get from your provider is not what RackMy is asking you. He (or we) is simply pointing out the false claim you make that you have bandwith from three different providers, Yipes, Level3, and Genuity. No it's not the case ... You only have one provider, yipes that is ... To say anything beyond this is false marketing ...

BTW, is that 1 mbps bandwith a capped bandwith or just a minimum commitment with your provider?

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by TimPD
Ok Fine You want know. We currently have 1mpbs of bandwidth and will be getting more as we need it and see that it is being used. We're currently starting out as a Dedicated Provider and wanted to start out low.

Tim, there's nothing wrong with being honest, and there's nothing wrong with buying far too much bandwidth that won't be used all at once either :)

Matt

:) I know. RackMy is probadly asking the connectivity line information oc12 which if he knows the Data Center then he knows that information :).

Our data center has a gigabite ethernet though Yipes.

Originally posted by TimPD
:) I know. RackMy is probadly asking the connectivity line information oc12 which if he knows the Data Center then he knows that information :).

No, that's not what he is asking ... he is aksing a simple question (very simple) and I now start to wonder how you can have misunderstood it ...

This is what you claimed:


All servers are located in Dallas,Texas on Yipes, Level3 & Genuity Quality Bandwidth

Which can very be misleading for your potential customers since they will think that you have multihomed bandwith from three different providers, Yipes, Level3, and Genuity although you don't seem so since you only have Yipes at this moment.

If you still don't get the question, I don't know what else to say ;)

cheers,
:beer:

I have corrected my post.

Also, if you want an IP To trace to so you can see the network providers feel free to ask and you can see for yourself.

We will have having a person from the Data Center posting the network etc since I'm not an expert of how they have it setup. This will confirm things as well as tell you how our network is setup.

Alright guys this is why many of the people who were good members of this board left.

You guys have problems. First of all let me say that you guys all jump on the bandwagon to critisize people like me when they jump on peoples back, but then you guys turn around and do just the same. Some of you make me sick to be honest.

I dont know how old tim is, i dont know how he runs his business, and i dont pay attention to what specials he offers, hell im seldom ever on here.

Heres the facts on whats in dallas, we have 2 networks, both bgp routed and both setup to route between each other:

Network 1: UUNet/Level3
Network 2: Yipes (Genuity and Level3)

Certain ips route to different networks, some we get from arin, some from yipes some from uunet. Depending what ip block it is it will route different ways. Obviously our UUnet/level3 backbone is more expensive then our yipes.

Tim ips always favor yipes and level, bgp routing on failure to uunet and genuity. We guerentee a 100% uptime to Tim and meet that uptime on a month to month basis as we do with all customers.

In addition to our 100% uptime and our more expensive tier 1 providers IE non cogent backbone, we will also be adding additional carriers as we see fit, namely internap and cable and wireless. This will position our backbone to peer with more providers of any of our competitors.

Customers going with Tim get the speed and reliability known of our backbone and the price breaks tim gives.

Guys grow up, you guys sound like a bunch of kids on a playground. I dont know anything about tim or about how he runs his business. I get about 20 Icq's a day from him so you can imagine that im not trying to make him sound like the perfect customer :). But he does seem like hes trying to make this business work as we all are. If hes a kid, then he should be honest about that, as well as about what his business runs on. But you guys need to lay off of him and help him to learn how to run a well respected business, NOT ATTACK HIM.

I respect many of you such as rackmy, but to be honest rackmy your in no better position to be attacking people, you dont utilize diverse backbones, as far as i know you use inflows network, which in itsself is a good network and is bgp routed, but that same is said about yipes, their internal network is bgp routed as well. Yipes network and Inflows network are architectured exactly the same. Yet you dont see me pointing out that if inflows network goes down you do to in every thread you post. And you dont exactly make it public that your bgp4 routed network is really Inflows and not independent providers you bring in and route yourself.

Really i didnt want to even post on here, but tim requested me to so i honored his request.

You guys have the facts now drop it and leave the guy alone.

Ya this place can seem like a snake pit sometimes but dont let it get you down Tim. ............. or anyone else for that matter.

Thank You Charles for clearing things up. Thank You For those that are Supporting us and placing your order. We're still accepting orders. Also, I do want to say Thanks Greg & Charles and the others here for Supporting Us. Also, for those that have there facts mixed up you now have the right facts and everything is straight. I look forward on doing business with you and I hope you all Have a Nice Day / Night depending where you live.. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us.

although out of topic...

parts of WHT has definately become a snake pit with rattlesnacks rattling their tails and ready to pounce on any random thread. (not talking about anyone specific, mind you - some newly-joined peeps are like this more and some oldies seem to be following suit)

had one small business deal with Tim before (very small) but he was friendly and nice to deal with - he seems to be one of those who never get any sleep cause he's always thinking up ways to better something or another.

anyways... nice deal as I mentioned through ICQ before Tim... g'luck with them! :)

Thank You for your comments John.. Yes, it was small. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with that site now either LOL. Yes, I do get stuck up late until 4am or later working with clients and dealing with them (sometimes).

Originally posted by TimPD
Ok Fine You want know. We currently have 1mpbs of bandwidth that we have purchased and will be getting more as we need it and see that it is being used. We're currently starting out as a Dedicated Provider and wanted to start out low.

1mpbs bandwidth.... that's only about 300gb max even it's full on all the time in the month... how can you provide 450gb hosting PER server? is the bandwidth burstable? how much can each server burst to??

also how much does the extra bandwidth cost per GB, APC remote port available?

any monitoring server inculded in the managed service? what does that do?

any uptime SLA?

upgrade availalbe? if so how much?

if i get 2 or more servers, can i share the total bandwidth between them, can i have a internal network on 2nd ethernet?

adult content allowed?

1mpbs bandwidth.... that's only about 300gb max even it's full on all the time in the month... how can you provide 450gb hosting PER server? is the bandwidth burstable? how much can each server burst to??

Tim is colocating at Charles' place and that means he is using charles network. Tim is not obliged to reveal his minimum committed rate on bandwidth. For eg. if charles has 200 Mbps aggregate connection to those providers, Tim may have the option to put servers onto the network which gives the ability to so much bandwidth, but that does not mean that he needs to pay all 200 Mbps charges, I would say the 1 Mbps would be his min. commitment with charles, but he will be charged for all his usages. Prepurchasing in this way does not necessarily limit your bandwidth offerings, unless it is capped. But since Tim is offering servers with large amount of bandwidth, it is quite non-sensible if you think he is getting 1 Mbps capped while each of his server offering is 450 GB, which is more than 1 Mbps. Hope that clears your doubt, Corefighter. If you do not understand what I have said earlier, do pm me and I will share my understanding on this although I am still a newbie to this.


Tim, your answers earlier were vague and weak, but it is very wise of you getting Charles to post more information on his network setup. But, IMHO, it would be great if you could get more information as to the maximum capacity the network is capable of delivering like 3 X DS3, 1 X OC3, or 1 Gbps connectivity, and if possible, state specifically as to which bandwidth providers it refers to. I think that is what most users and particularly Joe of Webreseller.net would be interested to know.


To those of you who have nothing better to do than do jump into offers by your competitors and then try your best to put them down ( I think I need not mention specifically as you guys are too obvious and you are the STARS as your posts appear in most offers posted by your competitors ), you guys look like idiots. That is how I see it. To those of you who do not know who I am referring to, do check out in the offers section and then do some technical analysis and I am sure you are smart enough to know about these people.

Tim, I would say you should ignore all of those insignificant posts as you would be better off by spending the time you have taken to reply to those posts to serve your existing and potential clients.

Originally posted by Ericwenlong


Tim is colocating at Charles' place and that means he is using charles network. Tim is not obliged to reveal his minimum committed rate on bandwidth. For eg. if charles has 200 Mbps aggregate connection to those providers, Tim may have the option to put servers onto the network which gives the ability to so much bandwidth, but that does not mean that he needs to pay all 200 Mbps charges, I would say the 1 Mbps would be his min. commitment with charles, but he will be charged for all his usages. Prepurchasing in this way does not necessarily limit your bandwidth offerings, unless it is capped. But since Tim is offering servers with large amount of bandwidth, it is quite non-sensible if you think he is getting 1 Mbps capped while each of his server offering is 450 GB, which is more than 1 Mbps. Hope that clears your doubt, Corefighter. If you do not understand what I have said earlier, do pm me and I will share my understanding on this although I am still a newbie to this.


Tim, your answers earlier were vague and weak, but it is very wise of you getting Charles to post more information on his network setup. But, IMHO, it would be great if you could get more information as to the maximum capacity the network is capable of delivering like 3 X DS3, 1 X OC3, or 1 Gbps connectivity, and if possible, state specifically as to which bandwidth providers it refers to. I think that is what most users and particularly Joe of Webreseller.net would be interested to know.


To those of you who have nothing better to do than do jump into offers by your competitors and then try your best to put them down ( I think I need not mention specifically as you guys are too obvious and you are the STARS as your posts appear in most offers posted by your competitors ), you guys look like idiots. That is how I see it. To those of you who do not know who I am referring to, do check out in the offers section and then do some technical analysis and I am sure you are smart enough to know about these people.

Eric, i'm fully understand what you've said and what i've worried is he didn't put in any info about the network capacity, I've orderd a server few days ago but after I see what rackmy found out and the lack of information about the offer, I'm pretty worried.

Ah, so Tim is with Charle. Good for you.

But anyway, the way I see all this mess-up here is because there are too many misunderstandings/confusions. Even Tim does not seem to know about the network setup 100% before he posts the deal which leads to confusions both to Tim and others. Saying that you have Yipes, UUNet and Level3 is quite different than saying that you have Yipes with UUNet/Level3 as backup. I guess that's where some people (including me) takes this as false advertisement.

And regarding the 1 mbps, you do not have to tell people that. People were asking about your network connectivity, not how much minimum bandwith you have to commit. I do believe the 1mbps is not capped bandwith but rather the minimum amount of bandwith you have to buy from Charles. So yes, he can have 1 mbps of minimum yet offer 450GB of bandwith to each server.

Finally, my apology if I seem to be rude on my posts here. I rarely post anything about other hosts except when I saw there is a false advertisement inside, which can be avoided (as in your case here) if the host itself make sure he knows what he has before he posts.

Best wishes for all.

cheers,
:beer:

I respect many of you such as rackmy, but to be honest rackmy your in no better position to be attacking people, you dont utilize diverse backbones, as far as i know you use inflows network, which in itsself is a good network and is bgp routed, but that same is said about yipes, their internal network is bgp routed as well. Yipes network and Inflows network are architectured exactly the same.Um, I would have to totally disagree with you here.Yet you dont see me pointing out that if inflows network goes down you do to in every thread you post.Um, well when it is down please feel free to post away :)And you dont exactly make it public that your bgp4 routed network is really Inflows and not independent providers you bring in and route yourself. Um, we never hide the fact that we are in an Inflow facility. If you would like to point that out in every post, I would not have a problem with that.This will position our backbone to peer with more providers of any of our competitors. Now that is funny, LOL

Charles, boy you can sure dish it out but you sure do have a problem taking it :)

Originally posted by cbaker17
. . . . . . . . But you guys need to lay off of him and help him to learn how to run a well respected business, NOT ATTACK HIM. . . . . . I've read the thread; a few times.
I wouldn't consider anything an attack (unless maybe your post).
It looked to me like people were asking for clarification on some issues and they were either getting no answers, vague answers, or wrong answers.
I see nothing wrong with attempting to have someone state more clearly what it is they are attempting to sell.
If someone wants to run a "well respected business" they should have the foresight and fortitude to do what needs to be done.
Not to answer questions vaguely and to equate questions to attacks on person.
I would hope that the thread starter simply takes what he's learned in this thread and builds from it. I wish him nothing but success. Hopefully he's open to constructive critisism. As a respected designer; I'm sure he is. :)

BTW, I don't think Yipes is the same as Inflow (or in this case, also InterNAP). Yipes does have their own fiber network, so at some point your IP will be on Yipes backbone. But I don't think inflow or internap has laid any fiber down so there is no such thing as Inflow/IntreNAP backbone. In this sense, inflow (or InterNAP at least since I know more about them) will be On-NET with both ATT and UUNet but if you have yipes, you won't be On-NET with Genuity, for example.

CMMIIW

cheers,
:beer:

I didn't know the full 100% details of the network. No, I did know that it was Yipes,Level3, Genuity as Charles has told me. I'm not a network expert. Also, I'm not a designer a staff of ours does all of our design work. Also, I'm sorry for not posting the exact correct information to start with. Charles has cleared things up. The data center and speeds are awesome and we haven't had one bit of trouble yet. I have seen no downtime at all. If you have anymore questions feel free to contact me at tim[at]paradise-designs.net.

Nice, honest response, Tim. Keep up the good work and good luck with your sale!!!

Thanks for your comments WiredDog :) Sells are going great ;).