I'll keep this short and get straight to the point.

30% of the traffic for one of my sites comes from Mac users, all of whom use Safari.

I'm running Windows so are there any ways for me to test how my page would look in Safari?

I use pearpc on linux but there is windows version too ( http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ )
You can buy Panther for ~$75 and use pearpc to run it on your windows/linux PC. It is slow and laggy and far from great for every day use, but it works just fine for site testing.

I use pearpc on linux but there is windows version too ( http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ )
You can buy Panther for ~$75 and use pearpc to run it on your windows/linux PC. It is slow and laggy and far from great for every day use, but it works just fine for site testing. so this is my only option? (other than buying a mac)

I think Konqueror (KDE based linux browser) and Safari share the same code base. You can use Konqueror to test your site. If you don't want to install linux, you can try one of "Live" CD distros.

BrowserCam (http://www.browsercam.com/) is a paid service which will take screenshots of your webpages in multiple browsers on multiple platforms. They offer a free trial.

BrowserShots (http://browsershots.org/) is a free version, but screenshots usually take about an hour to complete. It uses a distributed volunteer network (think Seti-at-home) to generate its screenshots. A nice concept but obviously this isn't reliable enough for production work.

Safari (almost...)uses the KHTML rendering engine.
To quote wikipedia:

Safari uses Apple's WebKit for rendering web pages and running JavaScript. WebKit consists of WebCore (based on Konqueror's KHTML engine) and JavaScriptCore (based on KDE's kjs JavaScript engine). Like KHTML and kjs, WebCore and JavaScriptCore are free software and are released under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License. Some Apple improvements to the KHTML code are merged back into the Konqueror project. Apple also releases additional code under an open source 2-clause BSD-like license.


This means that if you run Konqueror a free browser for Linux.
If you feel dualbooting is a stressful idea, you can download VMware Player (http://www.vmware.com/products/player/)(absolutely free!)
and then run KDE on SUSE (http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/66), where you can use Konqueror absolutely freely.

You could try http://www.browsershots.org

There is another site that specifically provides screenshots in safari but I misrememebr the URL.

cool, thanks for the feedback
Linux wont be a problem, I use it all the time. I just didnt know there's a connection between Konqueror and Safari
thx!

Safari (almost...)uses the KHTML rendering engine.
To quote wikipedia:


This means that if you run Konqueror a free browser for Linux.
If you feel dualbooting is a stressful idea, you can download VMware Player (http://www.vmware.com/products/player/)(absolutely free!)
and then run KDE on SUSE (http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/66), where you can use Konqueror absolutely freely.


I am KDE/Konqueror user and while both Konqueror and Safari do use the same rendering engine they are not the same browser and the engine and libraries used are not the same versions. Some things do work differently. I still feel a need to test in Safari even if I have native konquerer available.

well gentlemen after seeing what my site looks like in Safari, I regret ever starting this thread =(