I started a site, and was using Googles Adsense to serve up ads, and when doing a search for terms "Adobe CS Tutorials" i was showing on the first page toward the bottom for the whole time while running the adsense.

Now i've switched to YPN on most the pages, searching for "Adobe CS Tutorials" does not bring my domain up any longer.

I have a pretty good understanding of how PR works and all that snazz, but i can not figure out why My site was showing on the first page while using Google Ads, but shortly after switching to YPN i've dropped off their front page.

Does anyone else know anything about this?

Google does crawl Adsense sites a lot more often, so there is a good chance that it is happening, but more than likely, via a bug. Send an email to Google and ask.

There are some major changes going on at Google right now that caused them to un-index millions of sub pages. Some main pages are even getting un-indexed. They are re-indexing a lot of pages in the upcoming weeks though.

Google is fluffy and nice. They don't do anything out of a profit motive. They probably reward sites that don't use Adsense because they feel badly about profiting off of the Web anyway.

Google is fluffy and nice. They don't do anything out of a profit motive. They probably reward sites that don't use Adsense because they feel badly about profiting off of the Web anyway.

thank you. -- They may show favortism, but does that matter? It's their index after all

I think it might just be the fact that Ad Sense sites get index often. I have seen many cases where the first page sites don't have any adsense banners; so it might just be an anomaly in your case.

I see you there first page.
There are a few different set of results floating around at the moment from datacenter to datacenter so it's chopping and changing all the time.
I really would not worry until Google is all aligned and settled down, which will happen in due course.

I took a look and you have a PR of 0? Seems a little strange. Have you done anything to the site that might have had them ban you or reset your rank?

If not then let me know via PM or here and I'll toss up a link on the blog for nothing. It's a good way to get rank up and using the "Link Of The Day" for such things is often how I *cough* cheat the system a bit to get things done like that. It's a pretty generic and unspecialized site which enables me to do all sorts of things and linking from it seems to be pretty good for other folks. I could use good fodder for the LOTD anyhow and the inbound link will help.

KGIII

probably too new for a visible PR.
Created on: 01-May-06
Expires on: 01-May-07
so probably not too strange. :)

Google does crawl Adsense sites a lot more often, so there is a good chance that it is happening, but more than likely, via a bug. Send an email to Google and ask.


I've heard a few people say that, but I haven't seen any proof of this, or realy anything close to it. Would be interesting to know either way, but knowing Google.. no one will know.

Also good luck on contacting Google about natural positioning problems. I recently contacted our Google Case Manager, because I Emailed the natural position department for Google and always got back a crap answer. The question was basically why one of the accounts I monitor the homepage doesnt' show up, but has thousands of indexed pages? Even our Case Manager couldn't answer us.. so much for paying thousands per month on Adwords, when your site can't even come up naturally.. hehe



There are some major changes going on at Google right now that caused them to un-index millions of sub pages. Some main pages are even getting un-indexed. They are re-indexing a lot of pages in the upcoming weeks though.



A big Google Dance just happend, no doubt about that. One customer I manage went from 65,000+ indexed pages to 2,700ish. I know another one will happen, soon but I don't know if it will be favorable or not. A bunch of sub-directories sub-pages completely dissapeared from Google. Lets hope the next dance is more favorable.

Do you have a guestimate as to when that *might* have happened? If so then I'd be interested in knowing the date range because there are some flaky issues going on with some of the ranking. I think they've skewed it again...

Until recently I was able to get a domain to PR4 in just a couple of weeks without cheating (much - if I shared the secret you'd not believe me) but I've this one site in question that's REALLY due to rank soon and it's crawled daily but the indexed content is still quite old. It has AdSense all over it too.

KGIII

Do you have a guestimate as to when that *might* have happened? If so then I'd be interested in knowing the date range because there are some flaky issues going on with some of the ranking. I think they've skewed it again...

Until recently I was able to get a domain to PR4 in just a couple of weeks without cheating (much - if I shared the secret you'd not believe me) but I've this one site in question that's REALLY due to rank soon and it's crawled daily but the indexed content is still quite old. It has AdSense all over it too.

KGIII

I don't have the exact date, but im sure atleast a "little dance" has occured within the last 2 - 3 weeks. Quite a lot of things have been changing a bit for the whole month now. I read on an SEO forum that is sponsored by a Google Tech that a big Google Dance is suppose to happen in late May and/or early June to late June.. we'll see..

Thank you. Seems like things aren't going up through the ranks as quickly right now but, in all honesty, some of them seem to be going up better than I'd have expected. I'll watch and see what happens and smile and say here we go again.

KGIII

Google is fluffy and nice. They don't do anything out of a profit motive. They probably reward sites that don't use Adsense because they feel badly about profiting off of the Web anyway.Yes, I'm sure Google is just heart-broken about making a profit :rolleyes: