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TimPD
05-26-2002, 06:23 PM
Who do you recommend WebReseller or eServers.biz?

BurtonHost
05-26-2002, 06:45 PM
I've not had experience with WebReseller, but eServers I have been with for 7 months and they have been great, and take a look at their prices - very good prices for the level of service and support you receive!

Also.. the name WebReseller implies to me they are reselling someone elses service - eServers run their own service in partnership with a Datacenter.

Check out their site for more info or try emailing them if you're interested or just want to chat.

JBIZ718
05-26-2002, 07:15 PM
What are u talking about...

Webreseller owns there own datacenter. They dont share any parterships with another company that owns a datacenter. They are the datacenter.

Just to make it clear. Webreseller.net owns, and operates entirely there own datacenter. They dont use any cogent bandwidth. There bandwidth is yipes which consists of level 3 and genuity. So to say they use all Tier 1 bandwidth....

Not to come down hard, but things getting taken out of context too often on here.

Joe

Mxhub
05-26-2002, 08:17 PM
Webreseller.net look more promising that eservers.biz . Recent post about router problem at DV2 datacenter worry me.

BurtonHost
05-26-2002, 08:22 PM
Before jumping to conclusions, you may want to look at the history, and I can say in the last 7 months I have had 100% uptime apart from this and a short scheduled outage due to testing a month ago.

Re. WebReseller: I jumped to conclusions with their name, I've not had any experience with them, or have needed to. Everything I need is all under the eServers roof.

swijaya0101
05-26-2002, 08:25 PM
why everytime when someone request for the picture of webreseller data centre, they only said i will post it soon ...

but they never posted it until today ??? --curious--

method5
05-26-2002, 08:39 PM
You can't go wrong with DV2. :-)

JBIZ718
05-26-2002, 08:49 PM
I dont know why pics of the datacenter are so important.

Its a private datacenter...They do all look the same

Joe

Techark
05-26-2002, 08:55 PM
with both, and honestly I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

Sure the DV2 had a few router problems this weekend so what they got it back online, WebReseller had some router issues a few months back also.

If you want Cpanel go with eservers if Ensim is your cup of tea webreseller is good.

You will be very happy no matter which one you choose.

Monte

clocker1996
05-26-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
What are u talking about...

Webreseller owns there own datacenter. They dont share any parterships with another company that owns a datacenter. They are the datacenter.

Just to make it clear. Webreseller.net owns, and operates entirely there own datacenter. They dont use any cogent bandwidth. There bandwidth is yipes which consists of level 3 and genuity. So to say they use all Tier 1 bandwidth....

Not to come down hard, but things getting taken out of context too often on here.

Joe

U dun got 2 B so RUD

JBIZ718
05-26-2002, 09:11 PM
As i said at the end

Not to come down hard, but things getting taken out of context too often on here

And uve been here for a while, it happens

Joe

clocker1996
05-26-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
As i said at the end



And uve been here for a while, it happens

Joe

well i figured as the director of sales you'd know how to spell properly :bawling:

MadSkilage
05-26-2002, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by clocker1996
U dun got 2 B so RUD

Sounds like he could take a lesson from you :rolleyes:

I have been with webreseller for a while and have been very happy. Service has been great and their connections are very fast - Yipes bandwidth is great. If you are planning on using Ensim, these are the people to go with - extremely knowledgeable and helpful.

Also, if you don't have first hand experience with a company, please don't make idle speculation. It's really frustrating to hear things that are obviously false. Although you may have good intentions, the best advice is going to come from individuals with first hand knowledge.

swijaya0101
05-26-2002, 11:34 PM
MadSkilAge: ... are they good in handling the PLESK matter ???

I am going to get one of their PLESK server ... pls give me some advise ...

thanks

qps
05-26-2002, 11:40 PM
WebReseller bandwidth is considerably better than the bandwidth offered by DV2.

StevenG
05-26-2002, 11:52 PM
Every company or datacenter has problems now and again, what matters is the response time to getting things fixed. Also letting clients know what is going on is essential. Eservers are great at that, I have had tickets answered within 1 minute by eservers.

There is nothing worse than having some down time or problems and having no explanation by the provider, before or after.

I will recommend eservers.biz every time.

Aussie Bob
05-26-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by BurtonHost
Also.. the name WebReseller implies to me they are reselling someone elses service - eServers run their own service in partnership with a Datacenter.
Looks that way but it's actually the other way around. ;)

MadSkilage
05-27-2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by swijaya0101
MadSkilAge: ... are they good in handling the PLESK matter ???

I am going to get one of their PLESK server ... pls give me some advise ...

thanks

I can't comment on their knowledge of Plesk - they use ServerXChange primarily for most of their management I believe so Ensim is probably their primary area of expertise. You could always email them to get a feel for their knowledge, and what kind of support you can expect. All that I know is that they will try hard to answer your questions, regardless of the topic.

twrs
05-27-2002, 12:56 AM
I have servers on DV2 and Webreseller. Both offer great pricing and good service. Except the recent router problem in DV2, my server there is running great. As for network speed, Webreseller is still faster than DV2. Their Yipes connection really rocks!

As for Plesk support, I don't think Webreseller can help you much on that since they are still new with Plesk. Maybe Joe can give more info about it.

diederik
05-27-2002, 04:23 AM
I recommend WebReseller. I have no experience with eServers.biz, the guy who's running is a nice guy, but no experience with them myself.

WebReseller has been fantastic so far. Their speed if fabulous, support is quick, so no complaints so far ;)

StevenG
05-27-2002, 04:53 AM
Is CPanel an option now at webreseller diederick?

twrs
05-27-2002, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
Is CPanel an option now at webreseller diederick?

Not yet I guess. They offer only Ensim and Plesk servers now. But if you buy your CPanel license elsewhere, I think you may be able to install it on their server.

StevenG
05-27-2002, 05:03 AM
I've asked previously about plain boxes but they didn't do them, but I see diederick's new offers with CPanel and just wondered if they were with webreseller or not.

Thanks for the info.

Matlok
05-27-2002, 05:04 AM
Webreseller is great! They respond fast to support issues and I love Yipes :) . Also their prices are fantastic.

I think you can't go wrong with with Webreseller.

diederik
05-27-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
I've asked previously about plain boxes but they didn't do them, but I see diederick's new offers with CPanel and just wondered if they were with webreseller or not.

Thanks for the info.

Yes it's @ webreseller.
WebReseller did that as a favour for me, they don't support it officially. What I've heard , is that they are looking into CPanel at the moment, so they might offer CPanel servers themselves real soon. They will post it here if and when they offer CPanel themselves.

ckevin
05-28-2002, 07:43 AM
I am a WebReseller customer and I am satisfied with their fast connection and quick support. I know eServers.biz may be also doing good support, but for my location, the server connection at WebReseller is faster than eServers! :)

AcuNett
05-28-2002, 01:11 PM
Is WebReseller's noc in D.C.?

Yes, their bandwidth is awesome ;). Extremely fast for me.

avara
05-28-2002, 01:41 PM
We're extremely happy with Webreseller. When you talk to them, or put in a suppor ticket, you get that warm fuzzy "we care about you" feeling, which a lot of other providers seem to lack.

Not to mention that their connectivity seems quite a bit faster compared to DV2.

diederik
05-28-2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by avara
We're extremely happy with Webreseller. When you talk to them, or put in a suppor ticket, you get that warm fuzzy "we care about you" feeling, which a lot of other providers seem to lack.

I second that :)

mahinder
05-29-2002, 02:46 AM
Hi

one thing I do not understand is that where eservers.biz offers 300 GB for $119 / month and webreseller.net offers only 40 gb for $199 / month.

There business model is totally different and definitely there should be different kind of customers with both providers. eservers.biz use cogent as there primary provider (or only provider) webreseller.net use high cost providers. (haven't tracked yet whom they use).

So on what bases everybody is trying to compare both companies. It is obvious the company charging more money will be able to provide better and faster support with good network.

Just my $0.02

sailor
05-29-2002, 02:50 AM
who does webreseller use for bandwidth? You have me curious now - all my traces show level 3 only.

fixed orbit show advertisements on yipes and compass and there are 3 class c's shown. I am sure this probably not all there is - input would be appreciated.

is advanced webhosting design the same as webreseller.net?

Haze
05-29-2002, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by sailor
who does webreseller use for bandwidth? You have me curious now - all my traces show level 3 only.

I believe its Yipes. They mentioned it somewhere on this forums.

Techark
05-29-2002, 03:05 AM
one thing I do not understand is that where eservers.biz offers 300 GB for $119 / month and webreseller.net offers only 40 gb for $199 / month.

webresller is offering 450 Gigs a month last I looked.
The bandwidth is Yipes.

eservers.biz use cogent as there primary provider (or only provider) webreseller.net use high cost providers.

Eservers primary is not Cogent as far as I know.


Sailor I sent you an email last night have not heard a reply yet.


Robert @ webresller have not gotten that matter taken care of yet, you want to check on it for me?

Monte Roberts

twrs
05-29-2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by mahinder
Hi
one thing I do not understand is that where eservers.biz offers 300 GB for $119 / month and webreseller.net offers only 40 gb for $199 / month.

There business model is totally different and definitely there should be different kind of customers with both providers. eservers.biz use cogent as there primary provider (or only provider) webreseller.net use high cost providers. (haven't tracked yet whom they use).


Mahinder, I think you're not following the thread from the first. Webreseller offers 450 GB for $149/month (it was $139 before) and their primary connection is thru Yipes (Level3 and Genuity).

eservers/dv2 uses Cogent, Netrail, and National-Net. Not sure about it though, maybe Imran or Sailor can clarify it again.

panopticon
05-29-2002, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
I dont know why pics of the datacenter are so important.

Its a private datacenter...They do all look the same

Joe
Not really. First you can tell a lot by the quality of workmanship and equipment you actually *see*. Are cables all over the place? Are servers in racks or are they simply piled up, or like the one post here set on a floor somewhere? That is not a joke but a real concern when we're talking about these extremely good offers. Furthermore, seeing pictures of the datacenter helps verify what they're saying - what kind of ups / ac / power systems & distribution / routers / switches etc. do you see and how many servers are actually in the pictures - do they have 500 servers or 5000 servers that can be verified with the pictures? Granted they could show you pictures of someone else's datacenter, but I think we rely on one of the guru's here to recognize that pretty quickly if an unknown tried to pull that.

I also was a bit disappointed that webreseller couldn't come up with photos when I asked a couple months back. They also said that they were moving from one place to another so they wouldn't have pictures until then which sounded funny. Maybe they don't have a digital camera, but still it made me wonder a bit.

MadSkilage
05-29-2002, 07:11 AM
I've been frustrated recently because I have been trying to get more information about their connections, datacenter, etc. - I submitted a ticket, they told me to send an email so I sent one - no response. Submitted another ticket, told me to send another email. Submitted a pm, no response. Why is this such a secret?

You would think that they would at least post some of that information on their site, esp. since they have their own data center. I would imagine that that would be a big selling point for potential customers.

cabalstudios
05-29-2002, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by twrs


Mahinder, I think you're not following the thread from the first. Webreseller offers 450 GB for $149/month (it was $139 before) and their primary connection is thru Yipes (Level3 and Genuity).

eservers/dv2 uses Cogent, Netrail, and National-Net. Not sure about it though, maybe Imran or Sailor can clarify it again.

Yes, correct we use Netrail, Cogent, Aleron/Agis/Telia, Abovenet and some private peering.

Cogent is NOT our primary, as we use BGP4, so it find the quickest route to your customers/visitors.

JBIZ718
05-29-2002, 10:07 AM
Hello

Well when webreseller's new site is done, and the move into the new datacenter is finished, the pictures will be posted as well. Plus some other things that have been asked of us will also be done. I would look around June 15th for a ETA

I will be in PA this weekend, checking out the new APC systems for the new datacenter.


Also for some that dont know see the bottom of my signature

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boing
05-29-2002, 11:12 AM
my 0.02 pacific pesos

MadSkilage
05-29-2002, 12:32 PM
wahoo :) Rob finally replied to my email.

I'm glad to hear about the new site design - the last one was a little umm...homely. Out of curiosity, will this move affect current customers at all?

JBIZ718
05-29-2002, 12:39 PM
Everyone will be notified in advanced and the move will effect u for at most 10 minutes.

Then thats about it

Joe

mahinder
05-29-2002, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by twrs


Mahinder, I think you're not following the thread from the first. Webreseller offers 450 GB for $149/month (it was $139 before) and their primary connection is thru Yipes (Level3 and Genuity).

eservers/dv2 uses Cogent, Netrail, and National-Net. Not sure about it though, maybe Imran or Sailor can clarify it again.

LOL, I am sorry for my ignorance. I was looking at managed hosting area. :cartman:

twrs
05-29-2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
Everyone will be notified in advanced and the move will effect u for at most 10 minutes.

Then thats about it

Joe

What's new in the new datacenter? Is it close with your current datacenter? Is the network still same (Yipes)? I hope so cause I don't want to lose the excellent network speed :)

JBIZ718
05-29-2002, 01:56 PM
Yipes is going no where but in the new datacenter i guess.

The new datacenter is bigger and close to our current one.

New apc units more room for growth, just expansion

Joe

mdrussell
05-29-2002, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718

Also for some that dont know see the bottom of my signature

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Did you recently get the position Joe? Anyway, congratulations :beer:

JBIZ718
05-29-2002, 04:23 PM
Hey

Matt if contact me via icq ill inform u on the details that i can.

Joe